Re: Australia all set to WRECK the rest of the world....

by lardbucket Sun 25 Apr 2010, 22:10

PlanetPakistan wrote:
Henry wrote:Being FAST is not everything. There hasn't been a great genuinely FAST bowler since the Windies bowlers in the 80's. Since then we've seen lots of FAST but INCONSISTENT quicks.

we have had this discussion about 783 times...

speed helps plus its better to watch Shoaib than Mcgrath...every one would agree with that.

On a flat pitch I would pick Akhtar of 2002 to 05 over McGraths and Pollocks

Rubbish. Do you also prefer Britney Spears (a flashy slapper) to Grace Kelly?

by lardbucket Sun 25 Apr 2010, 22:14

Also ... I am sorry for any offence I may have caused to the Holdsworth family.

by Zat Mon 26 Apr 2010, 02:01

Australia to bow out in the preliminary rounds of the wt20 for the second successive tournament.

by Henry Mon 26 Apr 2010, 02:11

I predict this will be the last time Brett Lee plays for Australia. It was simply a marketing/sympathy/he sucks Nielsen's cock good decision to pick him in the squad in the first place.

In truth he's a washed up old hack.

by Ash Mon 26 Apr 2010, 02:19

the genuine fast bowlers tend to have better strike rates.

waqar, bond, shoaib

noone can deny a 90mph mcgrath would have been even more lethal than the 82mph mcgrath.

by skully Mon 26 Apr 2010, 02:35

JKLever wrote:Are Australia intending to open a pie shop?

They opened it last summer vs the might of WI and the Paksters, JKL. And because of the attack's T20 success v those giants, the twatish NSP have seen fit to go to the T20 Gilly with the same attack plus an injured and grossly out of form Bung.

Bunch of farkin numpties. Mad

by tac Mon 26 Apr 2010, 03:26

skully wrote:
JKLever wrote:Are Australia intending to open a pie shop?
They opened it last summer vs the might of WI and the Paksters, JKL. And because of the attack's T20 success v those giants, the twatish NSP have seen fit to go to the T20 Gilly with the same attack plus an injured and grossly out of form Bung.

Bunch of farkin numpties.

I would suggest that the Paksters and Windies are both pretty strong T20 teams . . .

by skully Mon 26 Apr 2010, 03:36

Suggest away. It's a free forum. :bom:

by tac Mon 26 Apr 2010, 03:59

You've finally come to that realization . . . . kudos, skully

by skully Mon 26 Apr 2010, 04:13

Hehehe, sez the forum nazi. Twisted Evil

by tac Mon 26 Apr 2010, 04:32

you can kiss good-bye to your farkin apples and bananas for that, qunt . . .

by skully Mon 26 Apr 2010, 05:19

[snigger]

Australia all set to WRECK the rest of the world.... - Page 2 Hitler_emoticon

by Zat Mon 26 Apr 2010, 06:44

Noice

by taipan Mon 26 Apr 2010, 06:49

PlanetPakistan wrote:we have had this discussion about 783 times...

Yeah and all 783 threads were started by you.

by G.Wood Wed 28 Apr 2010, 01:28

PlanetPakistan wrote:
Gary 111 wrote:
PlanetPakistan wrote:
Henry wrote:Being FAST is not everything. There hasn't been a great genuinely FAST bowler since the Windies bowlers in the 80's. Since then we've seen lots of FAST but INCONSISTENT quicks.

we have had this discussion about 783 times...

speed helps plus its better to watch Shoaib than Mcgrath...every one would agree with that.

On a flat pitch i would pick Akhtar of 2002 to 05 over Mcgraths and Pollocks

I agree with Smerky - McGrath would be the smart pick. Shoaib on a flat pitch would likely:

a) stop trying to bowl fast as soon as the shine had gone off the ball
b) pick up / feign injury

Between 1997 - 2007 Shoaib was only fit enough to play 46 out of 94 matches. In 2002-05 he only played 23 out of 37. And that's how many matches he started - he didn't always finish them.

The tough flat pitches you speak of such as the 2005 tour of India or the 2002/03 tour of South Africa he was absent. He managed to make the Zimbabwe tour though.

An example of McGrath vs Shoaib on a flat pitch in Shoaib's so called pomp:

link

McGrath takes 4-50 & 0-53, Shoaib bowls 15 overs (0-69) out of Australia's total of of 568 before picking up an 'injury' and not bowling in the second innings.

there are so many holes in that post that i don't even know where to start so i won't start and study for my finals instead.

you win.

an advance on the "I have to poo" defence

by Zat Wed 28 Apr 2010, 06:09

How to WRECK the rest of the world:

Step 1 - Appoint a captain who has never performed at the form of the game being played in the tournament.
Step 2 - Pick the rest of the team based on marketability, not form
Step 3 - Head to the West Indies
Step 4 - Play Zimbabwe in a warm-up match and lose...

by skully Wed 28 Apr 2010, 06:17

Aye. No shocks there. NSP strikes again.

by Zat Wed 28 Apr 2010, 06:17

Just as well I RDGAF about t20.

by skully Wed 28 Apr 2010, 06:20

Uh-huh.

by doctorspin Wed 28 Apr 2010, 13:28

Henry wrote:Being FAST is not everything. There hasn't been a great genuinely FAST bowler since the Windies bowlers in the 80's. Since then we've seen lots of FAST but INCONSISTENT quicks.

I would suggest Waqar was pretty quick in the 90's and was also pretty consistent. Could pick off a big toe at 22 yards with monotonous regularity I recall.

by Growler Wed 28 Apr 2010, 13:36

And I seem to recall a South African - Allan Donald I think his name was.

He took 300 odd wickets at about 25, and he was as quick & hostile as anyone - Ask Athers Laughing

by doctorspin Wed 28 Apr 2010, 13:57

At least when you crunch/shatter someone's big toe there is no doubt about it and amid the spattered blood and fragments of bone the umpire can confidently give the batsman out LBW.

If all you do with your speed and hostility is gently brush the top of the padding on the batsman's glove it doesn't matter if you have a row of Alan Knott, Rod Marsh and Bob Taylor behind the stumps, the umpire misses it and Athers saves/wins the game. A waste of all that effort no?

As it was it was Boucher who a few deliveries later dropped a clear edge off Athers. Tres amusement.

Got to go for the bodily harm every time to remove the doubt wouldn't you say?

by Growler Wed 28 Apr 2010, 14:20

Ah, doc - true enough about the TB game you're referring to - but that sme Donald dismissed Athers 11 times in the 18 matches England played South Africa.

In truth, I mentioned Donald to back you up in refuting Trevs' silly post about no genuine quick bowlers since the WIndians in the '80s. I think your second paragraph suggests that all Donald ever did was brush the top of batsmens gloves, but he hurt as many batsmen in his time as many bowlers ....

by doctorspin Wed 28 Apr 2010, 16:23

No no no no Growler; I was jesting. Donald was a very fine bowler and a great guy to boot and I am grateful to you for reminding me and the board about him. I am surprised I forgot him in my comment about the "no consistent fast bowlers since...."

I was not really descending to the level of the bowler equivalnt of BCL>SRT!

by Growler Wed 28 Apr 2010, 17:23

Ach - that'll be a severe case of NSR on my part Embarassed

You're right about Waqar of course - but his "partner in crime" Wasim was equally nasty and just as effective.

Just checking the ststs, and on pure numbers PP is right about Shoaib ... his figures are by no means poor. There is the feeling, however ( not totally misplaced IMO ) that he somewhat wasted his talent. Had he the heart, attitude and work ethic of W & W, I think he could have had more wickets than both.

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