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Post by JKLever Tue 22 Jun 2010, 23:34

Zat wrote:So Ricky was smart in saying he wishes Ireland had been able to hold on to Morgan? Or would that just have meant we'd lost to them last week?

I saw most of his innings for the Irish, and I couldn't see what the fuss was about - he'd never done it against the major teams. As Shaun Pollock said on commentary in SA, 'is this the same Morgan that used to play for Ireland?' - unrecognisable.

PlanetPakistan wrote:Asif and Kaneria will be a big test for him Merlin


Morgan won't be in the test side.
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Post by Merlin Tue 22 Jun 2010, 23:37

I'm at a point now where I'll put money on the fact that Morgan will be in the Ashes test team come November.

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Post by JKLever Tue 22 Jun 2010, 23:38

Not a chance... and the guy has also had a poor FC season- averaging mid 20's
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Post by PeterCS Tue 22 Jun 2010, 23:57

He's got to be in the squad.
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Post by tac Wed 23 Jun 2010, 00:10

So the poms are finally turning it around in the shorter forms of the game . . . always good to have a strong England to counter the subi bullshit . . .
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Post by PeterCS Wed 23 Jun 2010, 00:12

With a little help from Ireland, South Africa, etc.
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Post by Zat Wed 23 Jun 2010, 01:01

Maybe the ICC should help out developing nations by picking occasional 'best of the non-test nations' teams. Either for the honour of it, or even for special matches.

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Post by G.Wood Wed 23 Jun 2010, 01:07

Zat wrote:Maybe the ICC should help out developing nations by picking occasional 'best of the non-test nations' teams. Either for the honour of it, or even for special matches.

When they played England it would be like a Possibles v Probables trial
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Post by tac Wed 23 Jun 2010, 01:30

Ouch!
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Post by skully Wed 23 Jun 2010, 02:17

This Morgan chap looks OK. Well done him and Engulund.
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Post by G.Wood Wed 23 Jun 2010, 03:33

Basil wrote:I wonder how many Aussies are going to get stuck into Pup for not getting a ton and in particular not being a bit more gung ho in the final five overs.

Just looking at the scorecard it looked like that is the type of innings Pup needed to play. Without him being the anchor we could have been bowled out.

Also just from the scorecard, Morgan's dig sticks out like goat's balls. The rest of the cards for both sides have a markedly similar look
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Post by embee Wed 23 Jun 2010, 03:48

G.Wood wrote:
Basil wrote:I wonder how many Aussies are going to get stuck into Pup for not getting a ton and in particular not being a bit more gung ho in the final five overs.

Just looking at the scorecard it looked like that is the type of innings Pup needed to play. Without him being the anchor we could have been bowled out.

Also just from the scorecard, Morgan's dig sticks out like goat's balls. The rest of the cards for both sides have a markedly similar look

stop flirting with tac
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Post by skully Wed 23 Jun 2010, 04:04

G.Wood wrote:
Basil wrote:I wonder how many Aussies are going to get stuck into Pup for not getting a ton and in particular not being a bit more gung ho in the final five overs.

Just looking at the scorecard it looked like that is the type of innings Pup needed to play. Without him being the anchor we could have been bowled out.

Also just from the scorecard, Morgan's dig sticks out like goat's balls. The rest of the cards for both sides have a markedly similar look
Frankly, I think it's the only role Pup is capable of playing in the one-day form of the game. Holding up (and I mean seriously slowing down) one end.
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Post by G.Wood Wed 23 Jun 2010, 04:05

yep, he's a noodler not a tonker
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Post by skully Wed 23 Jun 2010, 04:07

Ergo, fark him orf for ShyT. Merls' new Adonis is the man for the no. 4 or 5 spot in both short forms.
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Post by G.Wood Wed 23 Jun 2010, 04:57

Surely the Captain of the T20 side has something to offer
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Post by skully Wed 23 Jun 2010, 04:58

His resignation?
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Post by Henry Wed 23 Jun 2010, 05:02

Bevan was dumped from the Aussie ODI side after the 2003 world cup because he wasn't able to smash boundaries in the final overs. Similarly, Clarke just doesn't have a 5th gear to his batting.

Still, Aus would have struggled to reach 200 without his contribution yesterday. If Clarke is to bat anywhere in the ODI side, then it should probably be as an opener.
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Post by embee Wed 23 Jun 2010, 05:19

Bevo was dumped because he was 33 years old and would have been 37 at the next gilly ...so they gave someone 4 years to get enough ODI experience to replace him (and Paris has done a fair job of doing that) ...its probably the best bit of succession planning the NSP has done

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Post by Henry Wed 23 Jun 2010, 05:24

Ponting will be 36 at the next world cup, and he's showing signs of not being quite the same player he once was. Should they dump him?
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Post by embee Wed 23 Jun 2010, 05:36

If it extended his Test career ...then probably

but compare apples to apples

Ponting is captain as well as the best batsman in the team

They've replaced Hayden , Gilchrist , McGrath and Hogg from the last gilly team . plus Symonds has self destructed and Tait , Bracken and Lee are probably gone from JAMODIs too

Bevan wasnt in the leadership group and was the "finisher"

If Ferguson didnt do his ACL last year then Hussey may have been eased out of the JAMODI team
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Post by Henry Wed 23 Jun 2010, 05:39

I honestly think that Ponting is no longer the best batsman in the team. In tests, Clarke is now better, whilst in ODI's, Hussey and probably White and Watson are now superior players.
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Post by Merlin Wed 23 Jun 2010, 07:48

They showed an interview of Ponting by Atherton yesterday between innings.
You could tell which one of them went to Public School ... and this one utterance of his convinced me that the Punter does, in fact, have a brain the size of a shelled pea.

"I find captaining the team more challenging now than when we had the likes of Hayden, Langer, Gilly, McGrath and Warnie around .... "

You don't say Ricky !

Other than that one gem, it was the usual boring PC crap (when one could translate from Tasmanian-speak) about being proud, keeping fit, grooming the youngsters (interesting comment Rick Shocked ) looking forward to Ashes 10/11; both teams balanced; hope to be around for the next ODI WC ... rah rah rah ..

Despite it all ... he remains the best batsman for Australia.... and no doubt, they'll be farked when he's gawn ...
He played one cover drive yesterday that was wrapped up in elegance, power, and classic text book ... reminded me of a right handed Gower in his prime.
Crap at interviews though ........


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Post by skully Wed 23 Jun 2010, 07:52

Merls in "working out Drunky is thick as two short planks" shocker. Shocked

Haven't you been listening to us for the past 5 years, Merls??

And was the interview replayed with subtitles, given the speed at which Drunky speaks? Cool
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Post by tac Wed 23 Jun 2010, 07:54

Just imagine if we made a mountain out of every trite, dull and cliched comment you made, merlo . . . the Himalayas would look like pimples on a spotty pommy arse in comparison . . .
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