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Post by embee Tue 17 Aug 2010, 04:11

cricinfo wrote:

India 141/4 MS Dhoni 22* (33b 2x4)

32.4 Randiv to Dhoni, no run, forward defensive, Dhoni is playing along for Viru's century now

32.5 Randiv to Dhoni, 1 run, pushed down to long-off for one

India 160/4 MS Dhoni 23* (35b 2x4)

33.4 Mathews to Dhoni, no run, dead-batted back to the bowler

33.5 Mathews to Dhoni, no run, stays back, defends again. Only Sehwag is to score runs from here on

33.6 Mathews to Dhoni, no run, and again defended, over to Sehwag
India 166/4 MS Dhoni 23* (38b 2x4)

The cricinfo commentator seemed to think he was
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Post by SG Tue 17 Aug 2010, 04:13

BTW, ICC/MCC, whosoever is the ruling authority, got to reconsider this rule.

If a batsman scores runs legally which in this case Sehwag did, why can't he get the credit for it?

Also, if they took that no-ball into account, they got to take the shot played into account as well. Because had he been run out on that delivery, he'd have been adjudged as out. So if he can be dismissed on that delivery why can't his runs be credited to his account?

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Post by embee Tue 17 Aug 2010, 04:14

SG wrote:
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unless he did it on bookie's orders because they would have to pay out on a ton to lose a game by giving away the winning runs
You never know.

Clumsiest effort at fixing since Danny Hobby jumped off his horse in the IppyWest Cup if it was
How was it clumsy? He succeeded in what he was apparently told to do.

Clumsy because he waited til Viru was 99 to employ his fix ...an asleep (or Viru fan) umpire may not have called the no-ey ...and the action of the "fix" couldnt be mistaken for an "accident"
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Post by embee Tue 17 Aug 2010, 04:17

SG wrote:BTW, ICC/MCC, whosoever is the ruling authority, got to reconsider this rule.

If a batsman scores runs legally which in this case Sehwag did, why can't he get the credit for it?

Also, if they took that no-ball into account, they got to take the shot played into account as well. Because had he been run out on that delivery, he'd have been adjudged as out. So if he can be dismissed on that delivery why can't his runs be credited to his account?

No ...he wouldnt have been run out ...the game is over and the ball becomes dead as soon as enough runs are scored to satisfy the conditions of a result ...no matter what else happened on the ball the no ball penalty couldnt be revoked so the game is over

If it was a wide that he was subsequently stumped from ...the stumping wouldnt count because the ball would have been dead
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Post by SG Tue 17 Aug 2010, 04:18

A lot of people actually term cricinfo as biased in India's favour. PPers usually call it cricindia.

Even if this is true this happens all the time in cricket. You see cricketers often slowing down for their partner to complete their 100.

And why we're even debating this? When even Sanga has lambasted this tactic, who're we to discuss the legality of it?

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Post by SG Tue 17 Aug 2010, 04:19

embee wrote:
SG wrote:BTW, ICC/MCC, whosoever is the ruling authority, got to reconsider this rule.

If a batsman scores runs legally which in this case Sehwag did, why can't he get the credit for it?

Also, if they took that no-ball into account, they got to take the shot played into account as well. Because had he been run out on that delivery, he'd have been adjudged as out. So if he can be dismissed on that delivery why can't his runs be credited to his account?

No ...he wouldnt have been run out ...the game is over and the ball becomes dead as soon as enough runs are scored to satisfy the conditions of a result ...no matter what else happened on the ball the no ball penalty couldnt be revoked so the game is over

If it was a wide that he was subsequently stumped from ...the stumping wouldnt count because the ball would have been dead
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Post by SG Tue 17 Aug 2010, 04:23

I just happen to know from someone who knows Sinhalese (SL's language) that it was Sanga who shouted (prior to that delivery) to Randiv to bowl a no-ball.

If thats true, what a lying little loser this man is.

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Post by SG Tue 17 Aug 2010, 04:24

And to think they were the winners of ICC spirit of cricket award last time. Or was it Eng?

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Post by SG Tue 17 Aug 2010, 04:27

Wonder what the reactions would be in SL had Ojha/Ishant deliberately got himself out when Murali was on 799 wickets at Galle?

After all, India had nothing to lose (but respect) after doing this just like SL in this case.

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Post by embee Tue 17 Aug 2010, 04:31

SG wrote:I just happen to know from someone who knows Sinhalese (SL's language) that it was Sanga who shouted (prior to that delivery) to Randiv to bowl a no-ball.

If thats true, what a lying little loser this man is.

My bet the voice is Joemar the Cameraman....
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Post by SG Tue 17 Aug 2010, 04:39

Here is the image of Randiv's no-ball.

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Post by SG Tue 17 Aug 2010, 04:40

Thats a big deliberate no-ball whichever way you look at it.

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Post by JGK Tue 17 Aug 2010, 05:02

Meh. It's poor form but who knows what else went in the match.

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Post by skully Tue 17 Aug 2010, 06:20

SG wrote:Very poor play by SL. But then, they're known for it.

Last year, Malinga deliberately fired one down the leg side for 4 wides to deny Tendulkar a well deserved ton in Cuttack ODI.

Ganguly too faced similar tactics from them once.

So, its in their blood to cheat in this way. Good to see Randiv, a young upcoming spinner upholding their tradition.
Hehehe, excellent work, SG. Now where is that wank-stain Ash and his mate Anni to respond? No doubt they're still whacking off over Chuck's 800th, trying to get to 800 themselves.

And Maka might like to come in on behalf of the poor little Lankans as he likes to do. snigger
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Post by Henry Tue 17 Aug 2010, 07:32

Jadeja seemed to do ok. Give the guy a chance to develop FFS. He could be the next Shastri.
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Post by SG Tue 17 Aug 2010, 07:37

He'll keep on developing and help India lose crunch games like he did in last 2 T20 WCs.

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Post by SG Tue 17 Aug 2010, 07:38

Looks like Randiv has apologized to Sehwag personally.

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Post by Guest Tue 17 Aug 2010, 07:50

Randiv, what a qunt, that just isn't cricket.

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Post by The One Tue 17 Aug 2010, 08:44

funnily enough thats the only bit of the match i saw. got home and switched on the telly and saw india needed a run to win and sehwag needed 1 for his 100. saw him cut away two balls to point for no runs and then in typical sehwag style he skipped down the track next ball and sent it over the ropes. cue celebrations and then a gob-smacked sehwag when he came to know what randiv did denied him a well deserved hundred

i think its quite disturbing that such a young cricketer did it. you might expect it from a cynical old-timer. hope he wasnt asked to do it by some of his team-mates

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Post by skully Tue 17 Aug 2010, 10:09

Aye, hard to argue against the fact that it was a p!ss-weak act, TO.
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Post by Merlin Tue 17 Aug 2010, 10:19

SG wrote:By deliberately bowling a no-ball when a player is on 99. A big no-ball by at least a foot. You don't bowl this big no-ball accidentally.

Why not?

Sh!t happens ...... live with it ...... but it's not cheating.

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Post by philcric Tue 17 Aug 2010, 10:22

Henry wrote:Jadeja seemed to do ok. Give the guy a chance to develop FFS. He could be the next Shastri.

Shastri ffs Laughing

Problem is Jadeja's batting. He's weakening No 7 spot considerably. His bowling and fielding are fine. One combination India could try is I Pathan at 7 an Jadeja at 8. Batting would look solid with enough bowling options.

Sachin
Viru
Gambhir
Raina
*+ Dhoni
Yuvi
I Pathan
Jadeja
Bhajji
P Kumar
Nehra

may just work better than present line-up. I also think Yuvi should bat at #6 and not at #4.

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Post by skully Tue 17 Aug 2010, 10:30

Merlin wrote:
SG wrote:By deliberately bowling a no-ball when a player is on 99. A big no-ball by at least a foot. You don't bowl this big no-ball accidentally.

Why not?

Sh!t happens ...... live with it ...... but it's not cheating.
Hehehe, you sound like me when I played the game, Merls. I think I've told the story but we were playing an arch-rival one day and their opener was on 98 when they needed one run to win. He'd never scored a ton and nudged a single for the winning run. We all walked off to howls of "unsportsman-like". The oppo expected us to bowl one more over to let this bloke get his ton. I think the response was a unanimous 11-man chorus of "FARK OFF". Needless to say he ended his career with a HS of 99*. snigger
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Post by Merlin Tue 17 Aug 2010, 11:17

The oppos win .... and yet want another over bowled for the guy to get his ton ?!!
HTF is that "adjusted" in the scorebook?

What Randiv did was within the laws of the game, and, as no one down on the sub continent seems to give a f**k about "the spirit of the game" unless it suits them and their particular team, then WTF moan about it?

Hypocrisy IMO ... just get the f**k on with it and move on.

PS - If I were Randiv, I certainly would not have apologised to Sehwag ... let the bugger brew on it ... might bag him cheaply next match after reminding him about the failed ton ...!

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Post by doremi Tue 17 Aug 2010, 12:54

Henry wrote:Jadeja seemed to do ok. Give the guy a chance to develop FFS. He could be the next Shastri.

If we needed any more proof...
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