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Post by Bradman Tue 24 Aug 2010, 07:02

embee wrote:
Bradman wrote:And the good thing is a torrie chick, or at least crazy eyes, is no chance anytime soon thanks to the Coalition agreement.

Which/What coalition agreement?


Been in place in one form of another for years. Pretty sure it's a put down on paper thingy. Survived the Fraser 'rule in his own right' period. I think Howard could've done that after ,96 too.

Basically the deputy PMship, certain cabinet places (trade, primary industries) and a percentage of the ministries. Certain policy no-nos.
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Post by JGK Tue 24 Aug 2010, 07:03

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JGK wrote:Has any Torrie chick been a PM or State Premier?

Nick Greiner??


Ah Nick Greiner - the only Torrie I have ever voted for.


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Post by Bradman Tue 24 Aug 2010, 07:07

JGK wrote:But if that puts it 73-72 to the Coalition it gives them a better starting point to form Govt. Unless of course Wilkiie and Bandt say "we are almost always likely to support the ALP" in which case we are back to square one.


Yeah I thought about that before I posted. I figured 72 or 73 for the planet rapers wouldn't necessarily put them in any stronger position in the big picture scheme of things.

Sorry been listening to RN non-stop all day and the number of scenarios is absolutely fascinating but most agree the Senate has to be taken into consideration and think that puts Jools in front by a nose.

Though the same pundits screwed the pooch on the election result.
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Post by Zat Tue 24 Aug 2010, 07:10

JGK wrote:In Denison, another wildcard is the prospect of the Green candidate coming down the outside to swamp them all. He is only 1500 behind Wilkie on first prefs so potentially if he gets preffed ahead of Wilkie by the also rans he could win as well. I think though the Liberals generally preferences Wilkie over the Green (which is ironic given Wilkie's hatred of all things tainted with John Howard's evil stench).
Can't see that happening...

Candidate Party Votes % Swing (%)
WILKIE, Andrew Independent 12,071 21.71 +21.71
JACKSON, Jonathan Australian Labor Party 19,985 35.94 -12.22
BARNES, Mel Socialist Alliance 743 1.34 +0.58
SIMPKINS, Cameron John Liberal 12,270 22.06 -7.93
COUSER, Geoffrey Alan Australian Greens 10,542 18.96 +0.38

The Socialist Alliance candidate will be the first one cut, and there's only 743 there, The Greens would need to pick up all of them, plus another 800 or so from postals and absentee votes just to avoid being second one knocked out.

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Post by horace Tue 24 Aug 2010, 07:12

billy McMahon?
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Post by Zat Tue 24 Aug 2010, 07:13

And the ABC is reporting that a full distribution of preferences will not begin until postal votes close on September 3.

Which means some of the seats already called by the meejah, and even the AEC could conceivably change again...

The idea of using the TABs as polling places is starting to show more merit.

It would allow for instant assessment of whether votes were informal, and allocation of preferences within minutes.

And unless a major race day was picked, it would probably be cheaper to do than to hire all the people to stand around at schools and village halls, etc on election day and count afterwards.


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Post by G.Wood Tue 24 Aug 2010, 07:16

Zat wrote:And the ABC is reporting that a full distribution of preferences will not begin until postal votes close on September 3.

Which means some of the seats already called by the meejah, and even the AEC could conceivably change again...

The idea of using the TABs as polling places is starting to show more merit.

It would allow for instant assessment of whether votes were informal, and allocation of preferences within minutes.

And unless a major race day was picked, it would probably be cheaper to do than to hire all the people to stand around at schools and village halls, etc on election day and count afterwards.


If you did it electronically you could also give the dopey twits a zap until they made the vote formal
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Post by Zat Tue 24 Aug 2010, 07:19

G.Wood wrote:If you did it electronically you could also give the dopey twits a zap until they made the vote formal
And zap some who just deserved it for being qunts.

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Post by Bradman Tue 24 Aug 2010, 07:20

horace wrote:billy McMahon?

Would've been the one to OK Bonner's filling a casual Senate vacancy, a Lib woman from memory. Though technically it would've been Joh's call, so obviously this was before someone explained to him how to trash the constitution. Probably that dickhead Party Chairman as twenty years later Joh got tied up in knots at the Fitzgerald Inquiry trying to explain 'seperation of powers'.

A question apparently planted at the request of the palace because the looney nationals were trying to get him a peerage.
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Post by Bradman Tue 24 Aug 2010, 07:24

Zat wrote:And the ABC is reporting that a full distribution of preferences will not begin until postal votes close on September 3.

Which means some of the seats already called by the meejah, and even the AEC could conceivably change again...

The idea of using the TABs as polling places is starting to show more merit.

It would allow for instant assessment of whether votes were informal, and allocation of preferences within minutes.

And unless a major race day was picked, it would probably be cheaper to do than to hire all the people to stand around at schools and village halls, etc on election day and count afterwards.


Is that the deadline for return of postal votes? I think they can start counting the ones they've got in conjunction with the booth count. I may be wrong, it was in the paper the other day and it surprised me.
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Post by Bradman Tue 24 Aug 2010, 07:40

Sorry major brain snap. All the booth votes and only the booth votes counted on the night
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Post by JGK Tue 24 Aug 2010, 08:15

Wyatt now over 500 ahead in Hasluck.

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Post by Zat Tue 24 Aug 2010, 08:35

From the ABC's Election Live...

Bob Katter is speaking to the media in Canberra. You can watch live

And things are still not looking harmonious between he and his old party the Nationals...

"IF THEY WERE GOOD FOR THE BUSH I'M A MARTIAN ASTRONAUT"

On the other hand he does like both Julia Gillard and Joe Hockey for their sense of humour...

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Post by Zat Tue 24 Aug 2010, 08:48

And here's another thought... HTF did we wind up with 150 - an even number of electorates? Surely, in an effort to make a result more likely in what is basically a 2-party system, having an odd number would make more sense. I know there are independents, but a system where 75-all can happen isn't exactly ideal, is it? Or am I missing something?

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Post by Zat Tue 24 Aug 2010, 08:52

And while I'm in SG/skully/Batman 'posting to myself' mode, I must congratulate one of the star performers in the election... The Sex Party.

Link

THE Australian Sex Party has emerged as a potentially potent force in Victoria.
The party outpolled several more prominent minor parties and came within about 10,000 votes of Family First for the Senate in Victoria.
[snip]
While the Sex Party gained 2.2 per cent of the Senate first preferences in Victoria, the DLP managed roughly the same. Despite this, the Victorian DLP has been vying for the last Senate spot.

The Sex Party secured a total of 54,744 first preference votes in the Senate in Victoria, compared with One Nation's 8804 and the Australian Democrats on 11,774.

They'll pick up some gov't funding for getting past 4% of the vote in the NT too.

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Post by Zat Tue 24 Aug 2010, 09:02

Final comment before I head off to cook... Does anyone else think Ben Fordham from Channel Nein deserves a good punch in the mouth?

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Post by horace Tue 24 Aug 2010, 09:10

agree with zat...tho that is my default position on most people at Ch Nein
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Post by JGK Tue 24 Aug 2010, 09:14

Big day for the Dark Side. They have shored up Boothby and Dunkley, have moved further ahead in Brisbane and Hasluck, the ALP has lost Denison and now Coragamite is back to doubtful with the ALP only 700 ahead (although a fair percentage has been countred).

Could be 74-71 at this rate.


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Post by horace Tue 24 Aug 2010, 09:17

btw..has the passing of iron bar been noted...must say I enjoyed his loss nearly as much as Howard losing in 07
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Post by JGK Tue 24 Aug 2010, 09:25

Horrie - don't take this the wrong way but I can't help but notice that your return to the forum has coincided with all the counting going against the ALP today.

So if you could politely "get farked" for the next week or so, we might all be better for it.

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Post by Zat Tue 24 Aug 2010, 09:27

JGK wrote:Could be 74-71 at this rate.
Antony Green's take (he's the best in the biz, even tho he comes across as a qunt):
"While the Australian Electoral Commission were conducting a fresh preference distribution between Labor and Wilkie, I maintained a manual override on the result in Denison. I now estimate Labor would need more than 57 per cent of the outstanding postals and absent votes to win Denison, and on the pre-poll votes so far reported that seems extremely unlikely."

Unless Labor now can win either Hasluck or Brisbane, the results looks set to be Coalition 73 (if you include WA National Tony Crook), Labor 72, Greens 1 plus 4 Independents - Katter, Windsor, Oakeshott and Wilkie.
Link to ABC Election Live Blog

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Post by JGK Tue 24 Aug 2010, 09:29

That was before Corangamite was noted as less than 0.5%.


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Post by JGK Tue 24 Aug 2010, 09:32

Tony Abbot: ''I think we can have a kinder, gentler polity. I think we can be a more collegial polity than we've been."



Sounds like "compassionate conservatism" to me.

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Post by horace Tue 24 Aug 2010, 09:34

oops...sorry jgk
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Post by embee Tue 24 Aug 2010, 09:39

JGK wrote:That was before Corangamite was noted as less than 0.5%.


Another "class traitor" (of a different variety) there too , JGK
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