Australia vs England: Which country is greater?

I think they have always been led by an elite group of manipulators, who have been very smart operators, thus far to the benefit of both but now they have parted ways.

and thus the loss of direction now.

You need to pay more attention to my "New World Order" thread

You need to pay more attention to my "New World Order" thread

Oh no I don't.....

Wales.

DJ_Smerk wrote:Wales.

Sheep.

Surely the answer to the original question is that both have things the other would want?

I love the likes of Augustus who would like to run away as fast as possible LOL, they're exactly the whinging pom we hear about.

I'v never been to Oz but i'd love the weather (in moderation) - constant weather is boring to me (I'm currently looking out of my window at snow capped mountains), and i'd love the beaches. But I also love our green countryside.

So yeah - give me the best of both worlds please.

That's a very sensible post Mr Lever and I agree with you whole-heartedly. I do think both countries would be even better though if they weren't populated by so many annoying human inhabitants.......

I think the point that Australia has no culture is:
1. Largely not true. As far as I understand it, Melbourne has one of the most diverse and active music scenes in the world, and art is moving in some very interesting directions too.
2. A bit rich coming from the english, who's largest contribution to culture in the last 50 years is the art of going to skanky clubs and then redecorating them with vomit at about 1 in the morning. What exactly have we achieved musically or artistically recently? A big hole in the floor of the Tate? Oh yeah, that's really fabulous. Even most of those middle class bourgeois hypocrites drinking french wine and italian coffee, and going to pizza express to listen to the jazz, daahling, wouldn't know what actual culture was if it came into their house and shat gleefully all over their wood-effect floors.


I quite like England. It's got nice scenery. And many of the people are quite tolerable. But cultured? How delusional. I think our stoic and silently disapproving mistrust of all things cultural was always one of our more charming traits. Come to that, I really miss dour. What happened to that? Now we're all either insufferably happy or emotionally incontinent.

Anyway, Australia's probably a really nice place too, with people and deadly insects alike adoring it for its clement weather. I wouldn't be surprised if it had its fair share of hypocrisy and crudeness and people that just make you cringe, but how is that different from here, exactly?

Don't worry Winkle, dour is alive and well as long as you are. (That's a compliment btw.)

Winkle Spinner wrote:I think the point that Australia has no culture is:
1. Largely not true. As far as I understand it, Melbourne has one of the most diverse and active music scenes in the world, and art is moving in some very interesting directions too.
2. A bit rich coming from the english, who's largest contribution to culture in the last 50 years is the art of going to skanky clubs and then redecorating them with vomit at about 1 in the morning. What exactly have we achieved musically or artistically recently? A big hole in the floor of the Tate? Oh yeah, that's really fabulous. Even most of those middle class bourgeois hypocrites drinking french wine and italian coffee, and going to pizza express to listen to the jazz, daahling, wouldn't know what actual culture was if it came into their house and shat gleefully all over their wood-effect floors.


I quite like England. It's got nice scenery. And many of the people are quite tolerable. But cultured? How delusional. I think our stoic and silently disapproving mistrust of all things cultural was always one of our more charming traits. Come to that, I really miss dour. What happened to that? Now we're all either insufferably happy or emotionally incontinent.

Anyway, Australia's probably a really nice place too, with people and deadly insects alike adoring it for its clement weather. I wouldn't be surprised if it had its fair share of hypocrisy and crudeness and people that just make you cringe, but how is that different from here, exactly?

Right. I agree with most of it but, re: the highlighted part, don't bring your pseudo-intellectual jazz-orientated attitude to our music scene. It is easily the most diverse, vibrant and progressive music scene in the world.

Changed my mind. That's ^ the best Danny post of 2007.

Lara Lara Laughs wrote:Changed my mind. That's ^ the best Danny post of 2007.

Bullsh!t. That one was mediocre. Only by my standards, granted.

Australia doesn't have a Norfolk or a Derbyshire.

Batfink Begins wrote:

Lara Lara Laughs wrote:Changed my mind. That's ^ the best Danny post of 2007.

Bullsh!t. That one was mediocre. Only by my standards, granted.

lardbucket wrote:Australia doesn't have a Derbyshire.

Yeah, good point. Another reason to stay in England.

Counterbalanced by Derby itself being a sheet-hole.

lardbucket wrote:Australia doesn't have a Norfolk...

Tasmania

Deeply wounded, Jay.

As are the inbred people of Norfolk

Batfink Begins wrote:

Winkle Spinner wrote:I think the point that Australia has no culture is:
1. Largely not true. As far as I understand it, Melbourne has one of the most diverse and active music scenes in the world, and art is moving in some very interesting directions too.
2. A bit rich coming from the english, who's largest contribution to culture in the last 50 years is the art of going to skanky clubs and then redecorating them with vomit at about 1 in the morning. What exactly have we achieved musically or artistically recently? A big hole in the floor of the Tate? Oh yeah, that's really fabulous. Even most of those middle class bourgeois hypocrites drinking french wine and italian coffee, and going to pizza express to listen to the jazz, daahling, wouldn't know what actual culture was if it came into their house and shat gleefully all over their wood-effect floors.


I quite like England. It's got nice scenery. And many of the people are quite tolerable. But cultured? How delusional. I think our stoic and silently disapproving mistrust of all things cultural was always one of our more charming traits. Come to that, I really miss dour. What happened to that? Now we're all either insufferably happy or emotionally incontinent.

Anyway, Australia's probably a really nice place too, with people and deadly insects alike adoring it for its clement weather. I wouldn't be surprised if it had its fair share of hypocrisy and crudeness and people that just make you cringe, but how is that different from here, exactly?

Right. I agree with most of it but, re: the highlighted part, don't bring your pseudo-intellectual jazz-orientated attitude to our music scene. It is easily the most diverse, vibrant and progressive music scene in the world.

Perhaps I was being a bit harsh on our music scene, but in my part of the country, the majority of bands I see are either metal bands, which I would now argue are largely pointless as they're not upsetting anyone any more, or yet another indie band with a lead singer pretending to be considerably less posh than they, in fact, are. It's enough to make you despair.

Winkle Spinner wrote:Perhaps I was being a bit harsh on our music scene, but in my part of the country, the majority of bands I see are either metal bands, which I would now argue are largely pointless as they're not upsetting anyone any more, or yet another indie band with a lead singer pretending to be considerably less posh than they, in fact, are. It's enough to make you despair.

Other places are thriving. Sorry your sax-blowing isn't cleaning up, but there's all-sorts around. The overstatement of 50 years has been blown away, we've pretty much owned it.

I've lived in both England and Australia and love both. More accurately, I've lived in Sydney and London - my 2 years in London were among the best years of my life and I will probably always regret not staying longer.

There is a huge amount of shared culture between the two nations naturally and for me that allows the differences to be enjoyed and appreciated rather than treated with mistrust or ignorance (as it might be between England and Pakistan for instance).

For me, Aust v England is a bit like L v T - we should enjoy them both and treat each for what it is rather than what it isn't.

Weird topic. No one's going to reach a consensus(?) either way.

Australia: outdoor lifestyle and can-do attitude means better at sport

England: unique self-effacing sense of humour means better at comedy

I like Aussie women. I have to make a big effort to pull British girls but Aussie birds do the pulling for me.

Which is the greater country- New Zealand or Australia?

Eric Air Emu wrote:Which is the greater country- New Zealand or Australia?

Depends if you can swim

NZ seems to have niceer scenery judging by the LOTR films.