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Re: Trouble in Aus State Politics
The Tories seem as dividend and compromised as the Pinkos:
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/nsw-liberals-right-wing-outraged-at-baird-berejiklian-deal-20140417-36tih.html
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/nsw-liberals-right-wing-outraged-at-baird-berejiklian-deal-20140417-36tih.html
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he prob meant aussie pollies. your mob are on a different level of corruptiontaipan wrote:horace wrote:don't know...but had the same thought...could be it was the Boofette and not the Boofa...
I really believe Boofa is an honest bloke as well as being a smart and decent pollie...still think most pollies from both sides are honest and very hard working - even if I rarely agree with them...
sadly it is grubs like Obeid, Thompson, the filth in the water industry in both Vic and NSW and Downer who let the rest down
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Ethics? The Gall! wrote:he prob meant aussie pollies. your mob are on a different level of corruptiontaipan wrote:horace wrote:don't know...but had the same thought...could be it was the Boofette and not the Boofa...
I really believe Boofa is an honest bloke as well as being a smart and decent pollie...still think most pollies from both sides are honest and very hard working - even if I rarely agree with them...
sadly it is grubs like Obeid, Thompson, the filth in the water industry in both Vic and NSW and Downer who let the rest down
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If you think any politicians are honest you are even thicker than him.
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There was an honest politician in 1985 and before that sometime in the late 1960s, and a couple of reasonably well-documented cases between the wars, and there's other legends of honest politicians dating back to the late Middle Ages.
They are slightly more likely to exist that Bucky's black helicopters....
They are slightly more likely to exist that Bucky's black helicopters....
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I see Queensland's most senior public servant (appointed by Can-Do Campbell) is being dragged into the ICAC water imbroglio...as ever if there is a brown bag doing the rounds you can count on a Queenslander grasping for it...
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Fitzerald was responsible for the crash in AMCOR's share price in the late eighties.
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skully wrote:Still pretty stoopid to accept them though.embee wrote:MacDonald declared the flights and accommodation ....
The story reads to me like Green whinging
And agree with MrK.
How dumb did Mike Baird look yesty after the Auditor General found a lazy spare Bill?
like a future Premier
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Palmer continues to rock the boat:
Clive Palmer aims for NT balance of power
April 27, 2014 - 11:04AM
Matthew Knott, Gareth Hutchens
Clive Palmer is on the verge of holding the balance of power in the Northern Territory Parliament, as well as the federal Senate, after three defectors from the governing Country Liberal Party government joined his Palmer United Party.
Mr Palmer said he would use the balance of power to push for a greater focus on indigenous health and a re-examination of federal-Territory relations.
Alison Anderson, Larisa Lee and Francis Xavier Kurrupuwu left the NT’s governing Country Liberal Party (CLP) last month and moved to the crossbench after they presented Chief Minister Adam Giles with a list of demands he failed to meet.
Mr Palmer announced on Sunday that the three MLAs would now sit as PUP members, with Ms Anderson serving as leader.
Ms Anderson, a controversial figure, joined the Territory Parliament as a state Labor candidate, quit to join the CLP and then quit the CLP government after being suspended by Mr Giles.
Mr Palmer told Fairfax Media: "They approached us - they liked our policies on indigenous affairs and the economy.
"Other Country Liberal MLAs have approached us about joining the party, too. We'll be targeting the balance of power [in the Territory Parliament] and the two federal seats as well."
Mr Palmer said he was in negotiations with members of the Territory government and that he expects at least one to defect and join the PUP "within a month". This would give him the balance of power in the NT Legislative Assembly, where the CLP currently has a one-seat majority.
Mr Palmer said the three MPs who joined his party had not sought any financial backing.
Mr Palmer said he was open to a debate about whether the NT should become a state. He also wants more attention given to remote communities, such as Alice Springs, as well as Darwin.
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/clive-palmer-aims-for-nt-balance-of-power-20140427-zr09j.html#ixzz302szyHtp
Clive Palmer aims for NT balance of power
April 27, 2014 - 11:04AM
Matthew Knott, Gareth Hutchens
Clive Palmer is on the verge of holding the balance of power in the Northern Territory Parliament, as well as the federal Senate, after three defectors from the governing Country Liberal Party government joined his Palmer United Party.
Mr Palmer said he would use the balance of power to push for a greater focus on indigenous health and a re-examination of federal-Territory relations.
Alison Anderson, Larisa Lee and Francis Xavier Kurrupuwu left the NT’s governing Country Liberal Party (CLP) last month and moved to the crossbench after they presented Chief Minister Adam Giles with a list of demands he failed to meet.
Mr Palmer announced on Sunday that the three MLAs would now sit as PUP members, with Ms Anderson serving as leader.
Ms Anderson, a controversial figure, joined the Territory Parliament as a state Labor candidate, quit to join the CLP and then quit the CLP government after being suspended by Mr Giles.
Mr Palmer told Fairfax Media: "They approached us - they liked our policies on indigenous affairs and the economy.
"Other Country Liberal MLAs have approached us about joining the party, too. We'll be targeting the balance of power [in the Territory Parliament] and the two federal seats as well."
Mr Palmer said he was in negotiations with members of the Territory government and that he expects at least one to defect and join the PUP "within a month". This would give him the balance of power in the NT Legislative Assembly, where the CLP currently has a one-seat majority.
Mr Palmer said the three MPs who joined his party had not sought any financial backing.
Mr Palmer said he was open to a debate about whether the NT should become a state. He also wants more attention given to remote communities, such as Alice Springs, as well as Darwin.
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/clive-palmer-aims-for-nt-balance-of-power-20140427-zr09j.html#ixzz302szyHtp
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Ms Anderson certainly is a party animal; she seems to go to all the parties.
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Prem Napthine in strife over a mate getting a $1.5M grant to upgrade his meat works... the business is already profitable...Napthine owns a racehorse with the guy (who lives in his electorate)...Mothballs claims he had no involvement in the decision to give the bloke a grant
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Poor Tories...
[size=30]ICAC hears Chris Hartcher corruption claims as Liberal MP Marie Ficarra steps aside[/size]
DateApril 28, 2014 - 3:09PM
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Marie Ficarra has stood aside from her position as parliamentary secretary to the Premier as well as from the parliamentary Liberal Party until an Independent Commission Against Corruption inquiry into abuse of electoral funding laws is completed.
The inquiry heard on Monday that former state energy minister Chris Hartcher and other Liberal MPs corruptly solicited more than $400,000 in illegal political donations and Mr Hartcher used a law firm to launder some of the cash.
Counsel assisting the inquiry, Geoffrey Watson, SC, said investigators had uncovered evidence of the "systematic subversion of the electoral funding laws of NSW".
He said Ms Ficarra, who was also parliamentary secretary to then premier Barry O'Farrell, was part of the scheme and had solicited a $5000 donation from property developer Tony Merhi just days before the March 2011 state election. The inquiry heard her explanations about the donation were not credible.
Ms Ficarra "denies the allegations completely", said a spokesman from her office. "We have evidence which we can present which shows she is innocent. Her version of events is truthful and she has acted in good faith at all times," he said.
Since 2009, developers have been prohibited from donating to political parties.
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NSW Premier Mike Baird immediately asked Ms Ficarra to step aside from her duties as a parliamentary secretary. She will sit on the crossbenches until the end of the inquiry.
Speaking at the ICAC, Mr Watson said some donations were "merely an attempt to buy access to politicians, and the size of their donation is no more than [the donor's] best guess at the price to purchase a politician's attention".
The money was channelled into Eightbyfive, an alleged slush fund set up by Mr Hartcher's former adviser Tim Koelma, which was allegedly used to pay salaries to prospective central coast MPs Chris Spence and Darren Webber.
Embattled coal mogul Nathan Tinkler's Patinack Farm horse stud paid $66,000 to Eightbyfive.
Gazcorp, the proponent of the controversial Orange Grove shopping centre development in Liverpool, paid $137,000 to the fund, while the Obeid-linked infrastructure company Australian Water Holdings paid $183,000.
Orange Grove was given the green light after the Liberal Party won the state election.
The inquiry heard that Mr Hartcher was close to Gazcorp directors Nabil and Nicholas Gazal, the sons of the late Sydney businessman Nabil Gazal.
"Mr Hartcher was wont to holiday aboard the Gazals' yacht Octavia at Hamilton Island," Mr Watson said.
The inquiry heard that in 2007, the Liberal member for Lane Cove, Anthony Roberts, sailed the Whitsundays with Mr Hartcher and the Gazals.
Mr Roberts took over as energy minister after Mr Hartcher resigned following an ICAC raid of his office last year.
Mr Watson said Mr Hartcher "repeatedly granted favours" to Australian Water Holdings and Buildev, which is controlled by Mr Tinkler.
Mr Koelma is alleged to have run what he described as a "black ops" mission to destroy the head of Sydney Water, Kerry Schott, who was standing in the way of a lucrative public-private partnership for Australian Water Holdings.
This allegedly involved making false allegations to ICAC about Dr Schott.
One of the nation's largest developers, Harry Triguboff from Meriton, is alleged to have hidden his donations to the Liberal Party via the Free Enterprise Foundation.
Mr Watson said the use of the foundation in this way was "a serious breach of the law, and a serious breach of trust with the voters of NSW".
Chief Liberal fund-raiser Paul Nicolaou has agreed in private evidence that the foundation was used to hide money from prohibited donors.
It is also alleged that Mr Nicolaou, on the letterhead of the Liberal Party's fund-raising arm the Millennium Forum, urged 2GB broadcaster Alan Jones to use his radio program to destroy Dr Schott's career.
Delivering the opening address in Operation Spicer, the Independent Commission Against Corruption's inquiry into political fund-raising in the NSW Liberal Party, Mr Watson said the inquiry would show that "a group of persons have engaged in sophisticated, well organised and systematic subversion of the electoral funding laws".
Mr Hartcher allegedly used a law firm, Hartcher Reid, and his own nephew to launder $4000 in donations, dragging them "unwittingly into an illicit enterprise".[/font][/color][/size]
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/icac-hears-chris-hartcher-corruption-claims-as-liberal-mp-marie-ficarra-steps-aside-20140428-zr0np.html#ixzz309ltqcv3
[size=30]ICAC hears Chris Hartcher corruption claims as Liberal MP Marie Ficarra steps aside[/size]
DateApril 28, 2014 - 3:09PM
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Marie Ficarra has stood aside from her position as parliamentary secretary to the Premier as well as from the parliamentary Liberal Party until an Independent Commission Against Corruption inquiry into abuse of electoral funding laws is completed.
The inquiry heard on Monday that former state energy minister Chris Hartcher and other Liberal MPs corruptly solicited more than $400,000 in illegal political donations and Mr Hartcher used a law firm to launder some of the cash.
Counsel assisting the inquiry, Geoffrey Watson, SC, said investigators had uncovered evidence of the "systematic subversion of the electoral funding laws of NSW".
He said Ms Ficarra, who was also parliamentary secretary to then premier Barry O'Farrell, was part of the scheme and had solicited a $5000 donation from property developer Tony Merhi just days before the March 2011 state election. The inquiry heard her explanations about the donation were not credible.
Ms Ficarra "denies the allegations completely", said a spokesman from her office. "We have evidence which we can present which shows she is innocent. Her version of events is truthful and she has acted in good faith at all times," he said.
Since 2009, developers have been prohibited from donating to political parties.
Liberal MP Marie Ficarra has been asked to stand aside as a parliamentary secretary.
NSW Premier Mike Baird immediately asked Ms Ficarra to step aside from her duties as a parliamentary secretary. She will sit on the crossbenches until the end of the inquiry.
Speaking at the ICAC, Mr Watson said some donations were "merely an attempt to buy access to politicians, and the size of their donation is no more than [the donor's] best guess at the price to purchase a politician's attention".
The money was channelled into Eightbyfive, an alleged slush fund set up by Mr Hartcher's former adviser Tim Koelma, which was allegedly used to pay salaries to prospective central coast MPs Chris Spence and Darren Webber.
Embattled coal mogul Nathan Tinkler's Patinack Farm horse stud paid $66,000 to Eightbyfive.
Gazcorp, the proponent of the controversial Orange Grove shopping centre development in Liverpool, paid $137,000 to the fund, while the Obeid-linked infrastructure company Australian Water Holdings paid $183,000.
Orange Grove was given the green light after the Liberal Party won the state election.
The inquiry heard that Mr Hartcher was close to Gazcorp directors Nabil and Nicholas Gazal, the sons of the late Sydney businessman Nabil Gazal.
"Mr Hartcher was wont to holiday aboard the Gazals' yacht Octavia at Hamilton Island," Mr Watson said.
The inquiry heard that in 2007, the Liberal member for Lane Cove, Anthony Roberts, sailed the Whitsundays with Mr Hartcher and the Gazals.
Mr Roberts took over as energy minister after Mr Hartcher resigned following an ICAC raid of his office last year.
Mr Watson said Mr Hartcher "repeatedly granted favours" to Australian Water Holdings and Buildev, which is controlled by Mr Tinkler.
Mr Koelma is alleged to have run what he described as a "black ops" mission to destroy the head of Sydney Water, Kerry Schott, who was standing in the way of a lucrative public-private partnership for Australian Water Holdings.
This allegedly involved making false allegations to ICAC about Dr Schott.
One of the nation's largest developers, Harry Triguboff from Meriton, is alleged to have hidden his donations to the Liberal Party via the Free Enterprise Foundation.
Mr Watson said the use of the foundation in this way was "a serious breach of the law, and a serious breach of trust with the voters of NSW".
Chief Liberal fund-raiser Paul Nicolaou has agreed in private evidence that the foundation was used to hide money from prohibited donors.
It is also alleged that Mr Nicolaou, on the letterhead of the Liberal Party's fund-raising arm the Millennium Forum, urged 2GB broadcaster Alan Jones to use his radio program to destroy Dr Schott's career.
Delivering the opening address in Operation Spicer, the Independent Commission Against Corruption's inquiry into political fund-raising in the NSW Liberal Party, Mr Watson said the inquiry would show that "a group of persons have engaged in sophisticated, well organised and systematic subversion of the electoral funding laws".
Mr Hartcher allegedly used a law firm, Hartcher Reid, and his own nephew to launder $4000 in donations, dragging them "unwittingly into an illicit enterprise".[/font][/color][/size]
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/icac-hears-chris-hartcher-corruption-claims-as-liberal-mp-marie-ficarra-steps-aside-20140428-zr0np.html#ixzz309ltqcv3
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and today the dubber tory Police Minister has resigned after appearing before ICAC
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He was only appointed last week!
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JGK wrote:The Tories seem as dividend and compromised as the Pinkos
classic financial guru typo
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good. they havent had time to change the stationery yetJGK wrote:He was only appointed last week!
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re tory dubbers...all I can say is that they are losing state and fed ministers like trees lose leaves in Autumn or collingwood scum fans lose teeth
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Getting more and more interesting.
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/icac-suspended-as-mike-gallacher-investigated-for-serious-electoral-funding-irregularities-20140506-zr59n.html
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/icac-suspended-as-mike-gallacher-investigated-for-serious-electoral-funding-irregularities-20140506-zr59n.html
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They'd best hold off on a donation crackdown. They're going to need to raise some bail money.
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Libs in headless chook raffle shocker
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That's seven Liberal pollies who have fallen on their swords now:
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/2014/05/12/12/55/icac-claims-another-scalp
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/2014/05/12/12/55/icac-claims-another-scalp
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As there doesnt seen to be any honest Pollies on either side i think NSW should be governed from Tassie.
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Nathan Tinkler is in ICAC at the moment - dropping Nationals in the poo all over the place.
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Those wacky Barrels:
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/former-sa-liberal-leader-martin-hamiltonsmith-becomes-a-minister-in-labor-state-government/story-fni6uo1m-1226932944050
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/former-sa-liberal-leader-martin-hamiltonsmith-becomes-a-minister-in-labor-state-government/story-fni6uo1m-1226932944050
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The two top health bureaucrats in Tasmania have been sacked for gross nepotism; none of which even saw the light of day under the previous government.
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