S Africa asks players to stay.

embee wrote:It's T20

who would know or care

Basil wrote:

taipan wrote:So Abbott is gone.

Sad for him.

Sad for SA.

Sad for World cricket.

Don't think for a minute it's good for the English game either. For every Kolpak player played, there's a place denied to an England-qualified player.

brockley wrote:You should see their T20 squad,looks hopeless.
South Africa T20 squad: Farhaan Behardien (capt), Theunis de Bruyn, Reeza Hendricks, Imran Tahir, Heino Kuhn, David Miller, Mangaliso Mosehle, Lungi Ngidi, Wayne Parnell, Dane Paterson, Aaron Phangiso, Andile Phehlukwayo, Jon-Jon Smuts

Brass Monkey wrote:

Basil wrote:

taipan wrote:So Abbott is gone.

Sad for him.

Sad for SA.

Sad for World cricket.

Don't think for a minute it's good for the English game either. For every Kolpak player played, there's a place denied to an England-qualified player.

198 County places up for grabs. Take out one genuine overseas player and that's 180. When we were strongest, it was a product of many useful Kolpaks giving competition to young players, passing on their experience and raising the standard of County matches. You can't say the likes of Abbott and de Lange can harm the County game. They're good bowlers, who'll test out the technique of the youngsters far more than your dibblers

Basil wrote:

Brass Monkey wrote:

Basil wrote:

taipan wrote:So Abbott is gone.

Sad for him.

Sad for SA.

Sad for World cricket.

Don't think for a minute it's good for the English game either. For every Kolpak player played, there's a place denied to an England-qualified player.

198 County places up for grabs. Take out one genuine overseas player and that's 180. When we were strongest, it was a product of many useful Kolpaks giving competition to young players, passing on their experience and raising the standard of County matches. You can't say the likes of Abbott and de Lange can harm the County game. They're good bowlers, who'll test out the technique of the youngsters far more than your dibblers

Abbot's bowling stats for Worcs in 2016 for the record:

FC 75 - 17 - 249 - 1

List A 20 - 3 - 112 - 4

T20 7.5 - 0 - 109 - 1

De Lange last played a test when?

skully wrote:

brockley wrote:You should see their T20 squad,looks hopeless.
South Africa T20 squad: Farhaan Behardien (capt), Theunis de Bruyn, Reeza Hendricks, Imran Tahir, Heino Kuhn, David Miller, Mangaliso Mosehle, Lungi Ngidi, Wayne Parnell, Dane Paterson, Aaron Phangiso, Andile Phehlukwayo, Jon-Jon Smuts

I wonder what Jon-Jon Smuts main ability is??

skully wrote:

brockley wrote:You should see their T20 squad,looks hopeless.
South Africa T20 squad: Farhaan Behardien (capt), Theunis de Bruyn, Reeza Hendricks, Imran Tahir, Heino Kuhn, David Miller, Mangaliso Mosehle, Lungi Ngidi, Wayne Parnell, Dane Paterson, Aaron Phangiso, Andile Phehlukwayo, Jon-Jon Smuts

I wonder what Jon-Jon Smuts main ability is??

Red wrote:

skully wrote:

brockley wrote:You should see their T20 squad,looks hopeless.
South Africa T20 squad: Farhaan Behardien (capt), Theunis de Bruyn, Reeza Hendricks, Imran Tahir, Heino Kuhn, David Miller, Mangaliso Mosehle, Lungi Ngidi, Wayne Parnell, Dane Paterson, Aaron Phangiso, Andile Phehlukwayo, Jon-Jon Smuts

I wonder what Jon-Jon Smuts main ability is??

The white quota.

I once read an article by a SA journalist who tipped him to become the next big thing but he never kicked on.

taipan wrote:

Basil wrote:

Brass Monkey wrote:

Basil wrote:

taipan wrote:So Abbott is gone.

Sad for him.

Sad for SA.

Sad for World cricket.

Don't think for a minute it's good for the English game either. For every Kolpak player played, there's a place denied to an England-qualified player.

198 County places up for grabs. Take out one genuine overseas player and that's 180. When we were strongest, it was a product of many useful Kolpaks giving competition to young players, passing on their experience and raising the standard of County matches. You can't say the likes of Abbott and de Lange can harm the County game. They're good bowlers, who'll test out the technique of the youngsters far more than your dibblers

Abbot's bowling stats for Worcs in 2016 for the record:

FC 75 - 17 - 249 - 1

List A 20 - 3 - 112 - 4

T20 7.5 - 0 - 109 - 1

De Lange last played a test when?

Aye, De Lange is rubbish as he cant get in the SA team. It's not as though we are blessed with fast bowlers.

Looking at the number of overs Abbott bowled it looks like 2 games in each format. Not much of a sample size.

Basil wrote:

taipan wrote:

Basil wrote:

Brass Monkey wrote:

Basil wrote:

taipan wrote:So Abbott is gone.

Sad for him.

Sad for SA.

Sad for World cricket.

Don't think for a minute it's good for the English game either. For every Kolpak player played, there's a place denied to an England-qualified player.

198 County places up for grabs. Take out one genuine overseas player and that's 180. When we were strongest, it was a product of many useful Kolpaks giving competition to young players, passing on their experience and raising the standard of County matches. You can't say the likes of Abbott and de Lange can harm the County game. They're good bowlers, who'll test out the technique of the youngsters far more than your dibblers

Abbot's bowling stats for Worcs in 2016 for the record:

FC 75 - 17 - 249 - 1

List A 20 - 3 - 112 - 4

T20 7.5 - 0 - 109 - 1

De Lange last played a test when?

Aye, De Lange is rubbish as he cant get in the SA team. It's not as though we are blessed with fast bowlers.

Looking at the number of overs Abbott bowled it looks like 2 games in each format. Not much of a sample size.

When he wasn't crap, he was injured.

skully wrote:

brockley wrote:You should see their T20 squad,looks hopeless.
South Africa T20 squad: Farhaan Behardien (capt), Theunis de Bruyn, Reeza Hendricks, Imran Tahir, Heino Kuhn, David Miller, Mangaliso Mosehle, Lungi Ngidi, Wayne Parnell, Dane Paterson, Aaron Phangiso, Andile Phehlukwayo, Jon-Jon Smuts

I wonder what Jon-Jon Smuts main ability is??

taipan wrote:

Basil wrote:

taipan wrote:

Basil wrote:

Brass Monkey wrote:

Basil wrote:

taipan wrote:So Abbott is gone.

Sad for him.

Sad for SA.

Sad for World cricket.

Don't think for a minute it's good for the English game either. For every Kolpak player played, there's a place denied to an England-qualified player.

198 County places up for grabs. Take out one genuine overseas player and that's 180. When we were strongest, it was a product of many useful Kolpaks giving competition to young players, passing on their experience and raising the standard of County matches. You can't say the likes of Abbott and de Lange can harm the County game. They're good bowlers, who'll test out the technique of the youngsters far more than your dibblers

Abbot's bowling stats for Worcs in 2016 for the record:

FC 75 - 17 - 249 - 1

List A 20 - 3 - 112 - 4

T20 7.5 - 0 - 109 - 1

De Lange last played a test when?

Aye, De Lange is rubbish as he cant get in the SA team. It's not as though we are blessed with fast bowlers.

Looking at the number of overs Abbott bowled it looks like 2 games in each format. Not much of a sample size.

When he wasn't crap, he was injured.

Test average of 22. You must have some seriously good bowlers at Worcs.