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Re: Australia v England, 5th Test, Sydney, 4-8 January, 2018

Post by Henry on Wed 03 Jan 2018, 02:55

Hmm, seems if I’d been on this forum more often recently, I’d have seen that it actually starts tomorrow. Why?? It can’t even be considered a ‘new year’ test anymore.

Remember when it used to start on the 2nd and The Australian players weren’t so soft and could actually play this match just three days after Melbourne?
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Re: Australia v England, 5th Test, Sydney, 4-8 January, 2018

Post by skully on Wed 03 Jan 2018, 03:26

Yeah, lift yer game, Trev!!!

Happy New Year. Cool
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Re: Australia v England, 5th Test, Sydney, 4-8 January, 2018

Post by Henry on Wed 03 Jan 2018, 05:59

Happy new year skully, and to all!
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Re: Australia v England, 5th Test, Sydney, 4-8 January, 2018

Post by horace on Wed 03 Jan 2018, 07:34

On ya Trev.... Good to see a half Oz, half Pomgolian back here. Do you think IR Bell would have made a difference?
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Re: Australia v England, 5th Test, Sydney, 4-8 January, 2018

Post by Red on Wed 03 Jan 2018, 07:34

skully wrote:Aye, after Smithy's comments at the lunchtime press conference it looks like the Aus side will be as per the 1st 3 Tests.

"LEFT-arm spinner Ashton Agar looms as a surprise omission for the final Ashes Test at the SCG despite being called into the squad, Australian captain Steve Smith has revealed, while Mitchell Starc is firming for a recall.

At his pre-match press conference, Smith revealed that the SCG wicket was carrying more grass than expected, pushing the thinking back towards sticking with Nathan Lyon as the front-line spinner with three pacemen in the Aussie bowling attack.
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“The wicket’s got a fair bit of grass and looks to be a pretty good wicket. I’d say we’ll probably opt for just the one spinner,” Smith explain in his pre-match press conference on Wednesday.

“Nathan’s done a terrific job throughout this series and I’d say we’ll go down that route.” "



Root thinks it's dry and the English will play Ali and Crane.
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Re: Australia v England, 5th Test, Sydney, 4-8 January, 2018

Post by Henry on Wed 03 Jan 2018, 07:51

horace wrote:On ya Trev.... Good to see a half Oz, half Pomgolian back here. Do you think IR Bell would have made a difference?

Obviously would be 3-0 the other way if granite balls had been playing!
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Re: Australia v England, 5th Test, Sydney, 4-8 January, 2018

Post by Red on Wed 03 Jan 2018, 08:00

So if Smith makes yet another ton he will equal another of Bradman's records.

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Re: Australia v England, 5th Test, Sydney, 4-8 January, 2018

Post by Henry on Wed 03 Jan 2018, 08:12

Been a bit of rain around Sydney today. I don’t see why Moeen is being retained if Crane is a certainty to play. As a batsman surely Ballance deserves a chance now, and I don’t say that lightly......
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Re: Australia v England, 5th Test, Sydney, 4-8 January, 2018

Post by lardbucket on Wed 03 Jan 2018, 08:15

Will he and Foakes get a run in the ODIs?

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Re: Australia v England, 5th Test, Sydney, 4-8 January, 2018

Post by Henry on Wed 03 Jan 2018, 08:19

lardbucket wrote:Will he and Foakes get a run in the ODIs?

Ballance? Won’t be anywhere near the ODI squad. Buttler will be the ODI keeper and if he get injured Bairstow will take the gloves, so Foakes won’t get an ODI anytime soon.
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Post by lardbucket on Wed 03 Jan 2018, 08:22

pointless tours then

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Re: Australia v England, 5th Test, Sydney, 4-8 January, 2018

Post by Henry on Wed 03 Jan 2018, 08:26

The thing is, giving Crane a go now is just a token test. Aus will almost certainly target him, and if he’s belted, will he ever Ben seen again? He should have been picked for Melbourne when it was clear that Moeen was gone. You can only assume England weren’t confident that Crane could do a job, in which case, why the f*uck was he picked in the squad in the first place?? An ashes tour is no place for development selections. It has to be the best available, so Jack Leach should have been picked as the reserve spinner.
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Re: Australia v England, 5th Test, Sydney, 4-8 January, 2018

Post by taipan on Wed 03 Jan 2018, 08:46

Henry wrote:The thing is, giving Crane a go now is just a token test. Aus will almost certainly target him, and if he’s belted, will he ever Ben seen again? He should have been picked for Melbourne when it was clear that Moeen was gone. You can only assume England weren’t confident that Crane could do a job, in which case, why the f*uck was he picked in the squad in the first place?? An ashes tour is no place for development selections. It has to be the best available, so Jack Leach should have been picked as the reserve spinner.

You get the impression there is a clique inside the English team
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Re: Australia v England, 5th Test, Sydney, 4-8 January, 2018

Post by Henry on Wed 03 Jan 2018, 09:09

taipan wrote:
Henry wrote:The thing is, giving Crane a go now is just a token test. Aus will almost certainly target him, and if he’s belted, will he ever Ben seen again? He should have been picked for Melbourne when it was clear that Moeen was gone. You can only assume England weren’t confident that Crane could do a job, in which case, why the f*uck was he picked in the squad in the first place?? An ashes tour is no place for development selections. It has to be the best available, so Jack Leach should have been picked as the reserve spinner.

You get the impression there is a clique inside the English team

Since the KP blow-up, being a “good bloke” holds more weight than having genuine talent when it comes to being selected for England.
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Re: Australia v England, 5th Test, Sydney, 4-8 January, 2018

Post by taipan on Wed 03 Jan 2018, 09:13

Henry wrote:
taipan wrote:
Henry wrote:The thing is, giving Crane a go now is just a token test. Aus will almost certainly target him, and if he’s belted, will he ever Ben seen again? He should have been picked for Melbourne when it was clear that Moeen was gone. You can only assume England weren’t confident that Crane could do a job, in which case, why the f*uck was he picked in the squad in the first place?? An ashes tour is no place for development selections. It has to be the best available, so Jack Leach should have been picked as the reserve spinner.

You get the impression there is a clique inside the English team

Since the KP blow-up, being a “good bloke” holds more weight than having genuine talent when it comes to being selected for England.

You still have the backbone of the anti KP clique. Cook, Jimmikins & Broad. Probably added to those are Neph, Ali and LJB. They are the untouchables.

This is probably why the ODI side seem a lot happier.
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Re: Australia v England, 5th Test, Sydney, 4-8 January, 2018

Post by Henry on Wed 03 Jan 2018, 09:16

Yes, despite their good deeds on the pitch over the years, I’m not 100% convinced Anderson and Broad have been a positive influence on the dressing room. Still, deeds on the pitch are 99% of what it’s all about.....
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Re: Australia v England, 5th Test, Sydney, 4-8 January, 2018

Post by taipan on Wed 03 Jan 2018, 09:23

Henry wrote:Yes, despite their good deeds on the pitch over the years, I’m not 100% convinced Anderson and Broad have been a positive influence on the dressing room. Still, deeds on the pitch are 99% of what it’s all about.....

KP being the exception that........
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Re: Australia v England, 5th Test, Sydney, 4-8 January, 2018

Post by Red on Wed 03 Jan 2018, 10:15

Great to see @Swannyg66 commentating out here. Thought after being 3-0 down he may have left tour early again. #bbl @tensporttv waste of $$$$ from 10

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Warner takes a swipe at Swann.

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Re: Australia v England, 5th Test, Sydney, 4-8 January, 2018

Post by Growler on Wed 03 Jan 2018, 12:48

Henry wrote:The thing is, giving Crane a go now is just a token test. Aus will almost certainly target him, and if he’s belted, will he ever Ben seen again? He should have been picked for Melbourne when it was clear that Moeen was gone. You can only assume England weren’t confident that Crane could do a job, in which case, why the f*uck was he picked in the squad in the first place?? An ashes tour is no place for development selections. It has to be the best available, so Jack Leach should have been picked as the reserve spinner.

Trev, I agree with you 100% here.

Too easy to imagine Australia being 80-odd without loss approaching lunch when Root lobs Crane the ball. Warner tees off and at lunch Crane has figures of 3 - 0 - 26 - 0.

We've been here before though haven't we ? Watson in 2013 not only killing off Kerrigan's Test career, but doing serious damage to his domestic form too. I made the case a while ago that I felt it was the wrong time, and wrong opponent for his debut. I understand that it's Test cricket, not kindergarten - but if Crane is that promising a youngster, is it really worth the risk of Warner monstering him to the point he disappears for years?
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Re: Australia v England, 5th Test, Sydney, 4-8 January, 2018

Post by Henry on Wed 03 Jan 2018, 13:35

There’s also the frustration of making team changes well AFTER the ashes have gone. We sleep-walked to 3-0 before there were any significant changes at all.

Yes, it’s good that we don’t have knee-jerk changes like we did in the 80s and 90s, but sometimes it’s the job of the selectors, captain and coach to identify a serious problem and make a change quickly before the series is gone. From the outset it was clear that Moeen was struggling, and that our attack desperately needed some pace, but we did nothing about it. Nothing. Even once the series was gone we’re still not picking Mark Wood, despite him apparently being fit. And this is a five man attack FFS.
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Re: Australia v England, 5th Test, Sydney, 4-8 January, 2018

Post by horace on Wed 03 Jan 2018, 21:46

So it looks like Crane will play in place of the injured Woakes. He knows the pitch at least, courtesy of the traitor Spivs. He did ok in the shield and I expect he will acquit himself well.

Sounds like their is rain around in Spiv Central. The Poms are a chance here. If the pitch is green, the Poms only have to remove Seasick Steve and movement will rid the Bog, HollowMan and Ima. I sense Ksnr performances of farming to the tail.

In short I have a bad feeling about this match
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Re: Australia v England, 5th Test, Sydney, 4-8 January, 2018

Post by JGK on Wed 03 Jan 2018, 21:55

Raining in Sydney Sad

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Re: Australia v England, 5th Test, Sydney, 4-8 January, 2018

Post by skully on Wed 03 Jan 2018, 22:05

Sitting in the front row top deck of O'Reilly Stand. Very light sprinkle atm. Hopefully will clear within the hour.
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Re: Australia v England, 5th Test, Sydney, 4-8 January, 2018

Post by Henry on Wed 03 Jan 2018, 22:45

It always seems to be a dull, drizzly day for the start of the Sydney test. For as long as I can remember.......
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Re: Australia v England, 5th Test, Sydney, 4-8 January, 2018

Post by Big Dog on Wed 03 Jan 2018, 23:28

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