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Post by horace Wed 11 Jul 2018, 07:00

taipan wrote:
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skully wrote:Saw some interesting stats today.

Croatia has a population of 4 million and has 140,000 registered footballers. Aus has a population of 25 million and over 1 mill register football players.

What is Croatia doing right that we aren't?? scratch


They don't have AFL.
 or Leeg , Union and cricket 

plus our players get scattered globally chasing dollars and better leagues than the Midweek pub league equivalent that starts with an A

I think only 2 of the Croatian players play in their home league.

Sensible really given the grim history of that joint. At least they unlike the pomgolian players have moved on from a rancid culture
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Post by skully Wed 11 Jul 2018, 07:15

Anywho, come on England!!!!!
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Post by skully Wed 11 Jul 2018, 07:24

Here's a very interesting table that ranks international football teams based on FIFA performance and their population. Of the teams in this year's WC, Iceland (2), Uruguay (17), Croatia (21), Costa Ric (22) and Panama (24) rank the best per capita.

Aus comes in at 75th.

Interestingly the final WC2018 4 are France (90), Belgium (32), England (87) and Croatia (21).

It's a little out of date and means absolutely nothing, of course.
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Post by Bradman Wed 11 Jul 2018, 07:37

How many Aussie players were of Croatian descent?
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Post by lardbucket Wed 11 Jul 2018, 08:14

Skully, dodgier stats than a dodgy skully triv ...

One in 25 of us are registered football players??

Just no.

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Post by Red Wed 11 Jul 2018, 08:32

skully wrote:
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skully wrote:Saw some interesting stats today.

Croatia has a population of 4 million and has 140,000 registered footballers. Aus has a population of 25 million and over 1 mill register football players.

What is Croatia doing right that we aren't?? scratch


They don't have AFL.

So how does AFL stop a chunk of the million players developing into World Cup competitive class?? Is it because the crowds are siphoned off to AFL, thus depriving football (soccer) of the energy and crowd support to become a great league? Do those "left over" football players after AFL take their share not have the talent to be great footballers? What, what, what?????

Any half decent soccer player doesn't base himself here which detracts from the quality of the A League. Additionally it's often been shown on Fox which minimises the viewing audience and is a recipe for disaster in terms of promotion. Cricket better watch out.

The AFL whatever one thinks, is very good at promoting its code and the media focusses more on AFL and the rugby varieties than soccer. So it's hardly surprising.

In reality many people find AFL more entertaining raised on a diet of big scores.
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Post by taipan Wed 11 Jul 2018, 09:10

Like basketball?
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Post by lardbucket Wed 11 Jul 2018, 09:28

nobody finds basketball entertaining

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Post by Bradman Wed 11 Jul 2018, 10:27

Not my favourite sport but a paid up taipan's member, which is like being a spurs supporter except with some vague chance the might go all the way.
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Post by taipan Wed 11 Jul 2018, 10:30

lardbucket wrote:nobody finds basketball entertaining

According to Red’s logic you should
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Post by JGK Wed 11 Jul 2018, 10:38

Bradman wrote:Not my favourite sport but a paid up taipan's member, which is like being a spurs supporter except with some vague chance the might go all the way.

Thanks for that mental image...

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Post by Bradman Wed 11 Jul 2018, 10:45

And didn't expect jgk to pick up on the obvious. On the turps man.
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Post by embee Wed 11 Jul 2018, 13:19

Link to why Aussies should be supporting Croatia
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Post by lardbucket Wed 11 Jul 2018, 13:20

taipan wrote:
lardbucket wrote:nobody finds basketball entertaining

According to Red’s logic

that's the issue right there

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Post by Red Wed 11 Jul 2018, 13:42

taipan wrote:
lardbucket wrote:nobody finds basketball entertaining

According to Red’s logic you should

Except we were talking football codes.
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Post by taipan Wed 11 Jul 2018, 13:48

Red wrote:
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lardbucket wrote:nobody finds basketball entertaining

According to Red’s logic you should

Except we were talking football codes.

Your contention is that high scores make one sport more attractive than another
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Post by Red Wed 11 Jul 2018, 14:12

taipan wrote:
Red wrote:
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lardbucket wrote:nobody finds basketball entertaining

According to Red’s logic you should

Except we were talking football codes.

Your contention is that high scores make one sport more attractive than another

We were discussing footy codes, i.e. what makes AFL more popular in oz than soccer.

Basketball is not analogous to the discussion. It's popular as a participant sport, but save for a brief flurry in the eighties, has attracted fewer people than its footy cousins because it's a borefest.
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Post by horace Wed 11 Jul 2018, 17:56

OZ Soccer is as low on the totem pole as you can get. B/ball and hockey are ahead in terms of skill at the local level.
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Post by Guest Wed 11 Jul 2018, 18:41

I feel sick.

If there is a similar gap between semi finals then I'll be in my 60s the next time we get this far.

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Post by skully Wed 11 Jul 2018, 18:54

Have you got your waistcoat on, vilks?

Good luck, son. hello
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Post by taipan Wed 11 Jul 2018, 19:13

skully wrote:Saw some interesting stats today.

Croatia has a population of 4 million and has 140,000 registered footballers. Aus has a population of 25 million and over 1 mill register football players.

What is Croatia doing right that we aren't?? scratch

Actually Red, going back the original post we were discussing population vs registered players.

When the hole keeps getting bigger, stop digging.
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Post by skully Wed 11 Jul 2018, 19:50

England 1-0 up courtesy of a lovely Trippier free kick in the 5th. Kane and Lindgard should've scored but wasted gilt-edge chances. Croatia have largely been restricted to long shots but showed enough to suggest England clearly need another goal to ease the tension.

Sterling is tormenting Vida with his speed, and England's height in attack and defence is troubling Croatia.
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Post by skully Wed 11 Jul 2018, 20:52

All Croatia in the 2nd Half. I thought England were guilty of sitting on their lead and letting Croatia play. It was only when the Croats scored did Blighty start to show intent.

1-1. Extra time.
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Post by skully Wed 11 Jul 2018, 21:41

Very anemic 2nd Half + Extra Time effort by England.

Congrats to Croatia on making their first WC Final. A gutsy and committed effort to beat a timid England 2-1.
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Post by Guest Wed 11 Jul 2018, 22:45

England should have been 3-0 up at half time really, the chances were there we just didn't put them away.

Croatia were by far the better team for the rest of the match and deservedly in the final. Hope they beat the French.

First tournament since 1996 that I've felt proud of the England football team and there hasn't been any anger or controversy about the manner in which we've gone out. Beaten by the better team, can't grumble.

Wonderful tournament for us, far exceeded anyone's expectations. Roll on 2020!

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