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- This is Boycott spitting the dummy after Max O'Connell had given him out run out on 58 in the 6th Test at Adelaide in 1970-71. He petulantly went on like a spoiled brat, refusing to initially accept the umpire's decision and throwing his bat. Front page pics later showed Boycott was clearly out. In the 1st pic Greg Chappell and (I think) Dennis Lillee urge Boycott off. In the 2nd pic Ian Chappell and Ashley Mallett point Boycott towards the pavillion. Is it Lillee with his back to the camera?
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- This was when Terry Jenner ducked into a John Snow short ball and was felled. Lou Rowan warned Snow for intimidatory bowling (even though it wasn't really a bouncer) which lead to Illingworth remonstrating with the umpire.
Greg Chappell is the non-striker, Dolly and Fletcher are at slip and Knott is the keeper.
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- This is John Snow being manhandled by a drunk SCG patron after felling Terry Jenner (previous pic). This incident lead to more acrimony between umpire Lou Rowan and Illingworth before the latter ordered his team off the field in protest at debris (cans and pies) being hurled by the crowd in Snow's vicinity.
I remember (as a wee tacker barely in double figures) vividly thinking I hoped they'd stay off so we'd win by forfeit!!
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PeterCS wrote:End of picture show.
Two extra questions to finish up:
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I "numbered" one of the questions above "NOT03". ~ Can you explain what I was getting at?
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All the images & questions are arranged (as far as I could tell) in chronological order. Even if e.g. 06a, for reasons explained above, has to use a set of images taken from a different match.
But what's with the "06a", "07b", etc? Can you explain the bizarre numbering system employed above?
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- I think NOT03 might be a reference to the abandoned 3rd Test which saw no play due to rain but was declared a Test due to the fact that the captains had tossed.
06 and 07 Qs refer to the 6th and 7th Tests. The 6th was always going to be the 6th in a 6 Test series, but the 7th was added (much to the chagrin of the players who weren't consulted on the decision) to "replace" the abandoned 3rd Test.
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So, we've reached a stage where just about all of these mysteries have been solved by the three people suggesting answers.
That being so, I think I'll include my solutions and further comments on this thread, rather than opening a new one, as I did with the messier other quiz ("Series C").
Now, it emerges that there is a minor glitch with 01a and 01b - simply to do with their respective chronological order - and a larger snag with the image/question that was recorded as "02b": as Skully diagnosed. The flaw lies with the source - although I should have checked that more carefully. All that too will be revealed below.
But nothing, I hope, major major to incur your wrath in the end.
As previously mentioned, some of the identifications of players are not much above hazarded guesses. Although there is some basis for my suggestions, as I will explain in each particular case.
I've decided - apols to Skully, JGK, Lardbucket - not to reply to each guess made above. There is a lot of duplication in the answers (mainly correct, some arguably correct), which would make individually customised replies a very messy and repetitive process.
So, the three of you know what suggested answers you've made. Award yourselves as many points as you wish! :o)
And if anyone spots that any of my surmises (particularly fielders, seen from the back, or less than full length, in a fuzzy image, with head covered in a broad-brimmed sunhat to complicate identification even further!) - and you think you have a more accurate answer, let me know below.
Because, as I was careful to admit at the outset, no omniscient god on duty here, I don't know all the answers. Especially the marginal, hard-to-see figures!
That being so, I think I'll include my solutions and further comments on this thread, rather than opening a new one, as I did with the messier other quiz ("Series C").
Now, it emerges that there is a minor glitch with 01a and 01b - simply to do with their respective chronological order - and a larger snag with the image/question that was recorded as "02b": as Skully diagnosed. The flaw lies with the source - although I should have checked that more carefully. All that too will be revealed below.
But nothing, I hope, major major to incur your wrath in the end.
As previously mentioned, some of the identifications of players are not much above hazarded guesses. Although there is some basis for my suggestions, as I will explain in each particular case.
I've decided - apols to Skully, JGK, Lardbucket - not to reply to each guess made above. There is a lot of duplication in the answers (mainly correct, some arguably correct), which would make individually customised replies a very messy and repetitive process.
So, the three of you know what suggested answers you've made. Award yourselves as many points as you wish! :o)
And if anyone spots that any of my surmises (particularly fielders, seen from the back, or less than full length, in a fuzzy image, with head covered in a broad-brimmed sunhat to complicate identification even further!) - and you think you have a more accurate answer, let me know below.
Because, as I was careful to admit at the outset, no omniscient god on duty here, I don't know all the answers. Especially the marginal, hard-to-see figures!
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(You'll probably have noticed that, just as "Series C" was a hint that series was 100 years ago (minus a few months) - Roman numerals - this "Series L" hinted at the fact that we've moved on (or back) 50 years, to 1970-71.
So: raise your bat, one and all. But not your cap/helmet. It's only 50 this time. ...)
First Australian delivery of the 1970-71 Ashes series, Brisbane, and first delivery by the bowler (AL "Froggy" Thomson) in Tests. Overzealously called by the umpire as a no-ball, for overstepping, when in fact it wasn't*.
A sad little article on Froggy here:
https://sportshounds.com.au/2019/11/03/from-mcg-hero-to-a-hermit/
More upbeat:
https://aflua.com.au/alan-lloyd-froggy-thomson/
Brian Luckhurst is the batsman receiving that first ball; Boycott is at the non-striker's end.
*Which may have set the tone for the debutant bowler for a generally disappointing series, & his only four Test caps. He had caused a stir among the visitors earlier in the tour:
https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/17265/scorecard/556257/victoria-vs-marylebone-cricket-club-england-marylebone-cricket-club-tour-of-australia-1970-71
But - is there maybe an analogy with Paul "Frog-in-a-Blender" Adams? - once batsmen learned to concentrate on the late-slinging arm & hand position of the bowler, rather than his bizarre physical shape, he no longer provided such a challenge. Or perhaps it was just nerves - as it often is.
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Keith Stackpole driving England captain Ray Illingworth for 6 in the first innings of that first (drawn) Test at Brisbane, during an innings of 207 (a stand of over 200 with Doug Walters).
Alan Knott is the neat figure raising distinctively thick eyebrows behind the sticks.
(So actually this would have been better placed before 1a, chronologically speaking. - Oh well.)
https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/17265/scorecard/63060/australia-vs-england-1st-test-england-marylebone-cricket-club-tour-of-australia-1970-71
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BW Luckhurst - b GD McKenzie 131
in the 1st innings of the 2nd Test match.
The first ever to be held in Perth (which might have made an extra question, but hey.)
Luckhurst had been involved in an opening stand of 171 with Boycott, and fell with the score on 243.
Draw in the offing!
https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/17265/scorecard/63061/australia-vs-england-2nd-test-england-marylebone-cricket-club-tour-of-australia-1970-71
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Now this is the problematic one.
The source says definitely "2nd Test". But that's definitely Alan Knott batting, having a "late-innings one-day swish" at Garth McKenzie - and it's definitely the born #10 Ken Shuttleworth at the non-striker's end.
(To complete the picture, RW Marsh behind the stumps and, by his handsome girth, probably Stackpole at slip.)
But: Knott had already been dismissed on the two occasions Shuttleworth went to the crease, in Brisbane & Perth - the two Tests he played in Australia, of his only five Test caps - so this must be a source misattribution.
It must correctly be a "NOT03" question: from the historic first ODI in Melbourne, 5th January 1971. See the question placed three after this.
There, Shutt and Knott did indeed share a stand - of a dozen runs - before a fairly rapid end to the innings - see  "NOT03"!
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Greg Chappell, on debut at 22 (where's Richie when you need him?), went in at Perth with Australia 5 down for only 107 in reply to the visitors' 397.
After a careful start, he chose attack as the best form of defence, and scored 108 (double century stand with Ian Redpath, who continued the good work - unless you're a Pom, maybe - and finished with 171).
(Edrich's ton in England's second innings secured the draw.)
Cowdrey, the man standing at slip in the photo, had a wretched old series, with bat (av 20.5) and catching (or rather, not catching - he spilled three when reintroduced in the 5th Test). His best Test days sadly behind him.
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Bob Willis, then of Surrey, 21, flying out to join the England squad, after Alan Ward experienced ankle trouble and was diagnosed with shin splints against NSW before the 1st Test.
Hence: flying solo.
Willis played in the 4th to 7th Tests of the series (hence "01(= arrival)-04(= debut)", including the visitors' two wins, taking 12 wickets in those four Tests at an average of under 27.5. A Test career was under way: cranky-clanking run-up, creaky much operated-on knees and all.
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"NOT03"
(See also question erroneously numbered 02b, above.)
APE Knott b McKenzie 24
England's last wicket to fall. In a losing cause, in the first ever ODI challenge (only 40 overs per side, but with the 8-ball overs still used in Oz in those days, equivalent to 53.2 overs in modern currency) on what would have been the last scheduled day of a completely washed-out Test at the MCG.
Shuttleworth, Marsh and - thus with greater certainty than before - probably Stackpole are the other three.
Incidentally, this decision by the England management team markedly worsened its relationship with Illingworth & its own players. Or rather, the decision to insert an extra Test (the new "5th") - perhaps the genesis of "back-to-back Tests", as this was immediately before the Adelaide Test? - into an intensive tour of 7 Tests and numerous other matches, with at first no extra payment to the players.
Illingworth managed to negotiate a fee of £25 per player (with a promise of further review, but no further payment came) for the 7th Test. But Illingworth in particular - perhaps the SF Barnes of his day in his blunt, no-nonsense approach, seeking fair treatment of players by the administrators, remained unimpressed by the workload demanded by a stuck-up, well-heeled establishment of his players, at low rates of pay. While extra gate money was generated by extra games for the Australian hosts alone.
And when David Clark, the England tour manager, began to side with the Australian perspective when trouble began with injured Aussie #9s from the 4th Test, Illy must have fumed his way through the rest of the series.
Maybe it fired his team with a defiant, up-'em "Agincourt spirit"? Except, unlike Henry V scenario, they were battling at least as much against the aloof MCC powers-that-be (Clark, Hawker, Gubby Allen) as the Aussies!
(I read details of this ongoing feud in the England camp in Huw Turbervill's "The Toughest Tour", Aurum Press 2010.)
https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/17265/scorecard/64148/australia-vs-england-only-odi-england-marylebone-cricket-club-tour-of-australia-1970-71
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Here we're back on track with Tests. This time at the SCG.
And a packed picture.
APE Knott st March b Mallett 6
in the first innings in the match. Captain Illingworth looking on with dismay at the other end.
At which point England had lost their sixth wicket for 219, and looked in trouble. However, despite Ashley Mallett and "mystery spinner" John Gleeson taking 4 wickets each, thanks to several handy contributions - John Snow 37, Peter Lever 36, even that tousle-haired new chap from Surrey chipping in with 15* from #11 - England got to 332. And the match began to turn.
At silly mid-on it looks to me, in face and physique, rather like a young Chappell (I.)? He has claimed he didn't field at slip during Lawry's captaincy, I understand. The wide slip/gully looks to me not tall and spare enough for either Redpath (another specialist close fielder) or Lawry himself, not as burly as Keith Stackpole: I'd guess at Doug Walters, an all-purpose fielder, very useful in close catching positions if the field was "pressing".
At 1st slip you might expect the ever-sharp Greg Chappell - however, I'm not sure the build is quite right - but then again, you can't even see his full figure to check height.
But please note: those are only guesstimations, based on the usual/obvious factors - physique, habitual fielding positions at the time, etc.
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An easy question at last.
John Augustine Snow.
Curiously, although the England top three filled the top three spots in the series batting averages for both sides combined (Boycott 93.85 (!), Edrich 72, Luckhurst 56.82 - Â two centuries each), Snow was the only England player among the top six bowling averages of both teams combined.
Admittedly, he bowled more overs, and took more wickets, than those top five Aussies combined:
31 wickets @22.83.
And the Aussie frontline bowlers who bowled anywhere near the 225.5 overs that "modern Byron" sent down (Johnny Gleeson, "Thomson Mk.I", Graham McKenzie), had nowhere near as much success.
I can't see a "Man of the Series" award back then. But I'd say even against England's top order, Knott's oustanding glovework & unfussy motivational input (and a useful 215 runs @31.7), or Illingworth's typically shrewd captaincy (with handy runs and wickets at important times), Snow should surely have won it. His 7-40 in the second Aussie innings of the 4th Test (116 "a.o.", with McKenzie retiring hurt - only Lawry, carrying his bat, and Keith Stackpole made double figures) was the decisive breakthrough, the first "result" in the series up until the final Test.
And what a loping, deceptively languid run-up Snow had. Here are the highlights of the - I almost said carnage, but bearing in mind the actual blood spilt, let's say wreckage of an innings:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kl4Oy73D3sk
And - the issue of brutality. Graham McKenzie's blood down his shirt (see above) in the 4th Test, then Terry Jenner "sconed" in a horrible-looking incident in the 7th Test? Snow (& his skipper Illingworth) both maintained both Aussie #9s took their eye off the ball & ducked into the path of those deliveries. Well, they wouldsay that, wouldn't they?
In fact, footage appears to suggest there's some truth in the claims of innocence. Illingworth was then (in the 7th Test) clearly incensed when Snow was warned by the umpire for "intimidatory bowling", .... and such things often take on a life of their own. One grievance leads to another ...
The fact the Aussie bats (not just the two bowlersalready named, each batting at #9, hit by Snow) were very anxious to get out of the way - and thereby risking getting right INTO the way - bespeaks Snow's high pace, lift & "terror factor", once he got going.
That "terror factor" - and hair-raising incidents of batsmen in almost any position getting struck on the head, in the chest - remain a theatrical feature of Test cricket. In the many episodes of the Ashes alone, Gregory & McDonald, Larwood, Snow, Lillee and Thomson are just some examples of that "terror factor" ... and its impact, in some cases literally, a brutal physical impact.
btw:
Arlott's reference to the "Byronic figure". The Roamn nose ("aquiline features" as some say), and a cool, arguably cruel, sardonic temperament. ~ But Arlott was no doubt also nodding to a fellow-poet!
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One of the reasons I put two photos together here is that the fielders (and non-striking batsman) being in the same positions gives a double chance of their recognition!
Two scenes from the wreckage of an innings mentioned in 4b, full scorecard:
https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/17265/scorecard/63062/australia-vs-england-4th-test-england-marylebone-cricket-club-tour-of-australia-1970-71
You can check these two dismissals on the footage already linked:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kl4Oy73D3sk
The batsmen are not easy to make out - esp the second, with his back turned! - and the bowlers are not in shot. But with a smart combination of impressions and scorecard, you can find out that it's
KR Stackpole c [Peter] Lever b Snow 30
and:
AA Mallett c Knott b Willis 6
Knott keeping wicket, Fletcher (with his characteristic wide-open shirt in hot conditions) at first slip, D'Oliveira at second. Derek Underwood is easily recognisable at short leg in the second picture.
Suffering at the other end is the captain. (And by his expression, long-suffering.) Carrying his bat for 60* was not to save Lawry a couple of Tests later.
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As previously discussed (and see youtube footage in previous solution):
Graham McKenzie ducking straight into a not-particularly-high delivery from Australia's tormentor in that innings and Test (... and series).
A nasty sight. Unless you like bullfights, brawling, mayhem, etc.
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Fifth Test - the inserted extra Test - at the MCG:
BW Luckhurst b Walters 109
in England's reply to Australia's first innings of 493/9 declared.
The end of a fourth-wicket stand of 140 with Dolly (standing at the other end in our picture - he also went on to a ton, with an array of forcing strokes) which rebuilt the visitors' position from a parlous 3 down for 88.
Brian Luckhurst batted through most of his innings with a broken finger!
With Illingworth (next in after Luckhurst) then contributing a 40, and bits and pieces after that, it was enough to make a draw the most likely result, maintaining England's series lead.
Although apparently Australia did not "go for it" as much as expected in their second innings (run rate 2.75): perhaps a nail in Bill Lawry's coffin as captain?
England played out the Test to 161 for no wicket.
Keeper in the picture is of course again Rod Marsh. It certainly looks like Stackpole (midriff!) at slip!
https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/17265/scorecard/63063/australia-vs-england-5th-test-england-marylebone-cricket-club-tour-of-australia-1970-71
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R Illingworth c Redpath b Gleeson 41
This was the very next wicket after "5a" above.
D'Oliveira again watching at the other end.
And the keeper? ... if you didn't know before, you know by now ...
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Snow getting a taste of his own medicine from "Froggy".
But perhaps showing how it's done. Watch the ball, and if it's at your head, then duck well clear"
Didn't help his innings greatly. ChappellI bowled him for 1.
But by that stage (7th wicket), England had got to 354, and were beginning to look safe(r) in the match ...
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We've moved on to Adelaide.
Yes indeed, this - the 6th of a world record "7-Test" series (6 played) - was the point where one DK Lillee made his Test debut: hence the positioning here at "6a". Hair already developing into quite a mane, but no 'tache in sight yet, and not yet the trademark billowing shirt.
The images are taken from one year later, when Australia was taking on the Rest of the World in a series down under. It was the nearest I could find - from resources I had available - as strangely I could find no photographic record of his debut series against the Poms. It will exist somewhere.
That look, at the top of that long run-up, suggests that Australia had found a means for several years of retribution - in wickets, and if necessary, blood - for the damage wreaked by John Snow in the presently discussed series.
And worse (for England), Lillee found a Terrible Twin ...
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The famous Boycott run-out incident in the Adelaide Test.
England lose the first wicket of 6th Test, at 107.
I don't wish to get too embroiled in the rights and wrongs of yhis incident here!
Suffice it to say Boycott was convinced he was in the right, and the umpire judged otherwise.
Geoffrey was - characteristically perhaps - not shy to pick up this incident again in his autobiography of 1987 (called - you've guessed it - "Boycott. The Autobiography").
He pointed out that he still knew he had been right. And that an umpire standing in his 2nd Test had made a mistake - and two other umpires (not officiating, but Boycott identified them by name) had expressed the view he'd made his ground.
He also emphasised that he had not "thrown his bat down", as was often reported. He had merely let the bat fall, in disgusted disbelief (!). See the "double teapot" in these further images (from Boycott's book), which at least bear witness to the batsman's feelings.
(DRS would have been interesting, if they'd had it. Someone would have had to change their tune!)
Perhaps demonstrating that two wrongs don't make a right, you can see Greg Chappell grabbing Boycott by the arm in the images, also a couple of hooked thumbs to the dressing room.
Fielding participants in this double image, 6b:
Greg Chappell is leading the send-off. It looks very like his brother (in sunhat) & Ashley Mallett (in cap) giving the hooked-thumb sendoff.
The other two figures are more difficult, but to me look very like the same man, seen first in half-profile, then from the back: note the same jumper length and trouser length, the same style and shape of hair, the scuffed soles of the footwear.
My hunch is that Greg, having picked up the bat and bundled Boycott on his way, left it at that, while the other fielder, applauding to the left of the first image, continued walking to join his colleagues (who we're calling Ian Chappell and Mallett).
The most likely candidate would surely be Ian Redpath again? - compare the height and long sideburns in 5b.
Which would make sense. A senior professional joining the "send-off party" of the ever-competitive/belligerent Chappells & a hot-blooded young spinner (nickname: Rowdy) - but participating more cautiously, with ambiguous clapping (for Boycott's 58 in yet another century opening stand: "good innings, sport" - or else, "great run-out mate, now get lost, Geoff" - depending how you read that gesture of applause!).
https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/17265/scorecard/63064/australia-vs-england-6th-test-england-marylebone-cricket-club-tour-of-australia-1970-71
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And so finally back to the SCG. ...
Ian Chappell, here I think acknowledging the crowd's appreciation for his century an hour or so from the close of this match (although the image could be from the 6th Test, Adelaide: his other ton in this series).
In either case, his first Teat as Aussie skipper. which is another vexed question I don't wish to get too embroiled in here!
https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/17265/scorecard/63065/australia-vs-england-7th-test-england-marylebone-cricket-club-tour-of-australia-1970-71
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Terry Jenner, in his second Test, poleaxed by another fast-lifting - but it appears not head-hunting - Snow delivery here. ("However scary it is, NEVER take your eye off a dangerous fast ball!")
Even uglier-looking than the McKenzie incident in the 4th Test: the way he is struck, and his "electric shock" reflex response.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NskJNcdy2Z0
Which short video extract also includes brief footage of "7c" ... (see next)
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A crowd member at the SCG responds to "7b".
Snow went on to dislocate & break his hand on the boundary fence, so it was left to five other England bowlers & various catchers including sub Shuttleworth to dismiss the home team for 160. This made the series 0-2, and retrospectively look fairly easy for the visitors. It hadn't been (as is so often the case with results that end up looking clear!).
As has been noted, the argy-bargy with Snow on the boundary might have led to a drawn series, and Australia retaining the Ashes. It was only when Illingworth was warned that if he kept his players in the pavilion in protest any longer, he would forfeit the match, that he found a way to lead out his players into the fray once more. You can take whatever view of tht you like, in a series rich in "incident".
You saw Richie's take above.
I think this is Alan McGilvray and Frank Tyson summarising the end of the match and series (footage sadly badly worn (overexposed effect- looks more like 90 than 50 years old), or badly transferred, or both). Two pleasures to listen to, not only for the rich quality of their voices. Maybe you have other views on either or both, but I dimly remember their dulcet tones. They make a heck of a lot of identification errors though - so I am not alone!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eT9nZzZPlUE&t=10s
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