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Post by Gary 111 Fri 30 May 2008, 22:14

lardbucket wrote:
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doremi wrote:Assuming both Ponting and Tendulkar play till the '11 WC (or Ashes if they come later on in the year in case of Punter), who'd you back to score more runs?

Ponting - I think Tendy's best days are behind him and he seems to be getting more and more injury-prone. Whereas Ponting seems to be at the top of his game.

Also, Ponting plays for Australia, who over recent years have played more Tests.

What about some of the averages on this list, though ... is any stats-driven forumer prepared to argue that Ponting and Kallis are so far ahead of the other top run-scorers on this list, or that that Steve Waugh was really better than Border, and nearly as good as Gavaskar?

If I had to choose one of those players to score a hundred to save my life, it would be Border - and bollocks to averages.

Exactly.

Would make for an uncomfortable 5 hours waiting for it though. I'd be tempted to pick Lara, hope it was one of his sh!t-hot rather than sh!t days and get the whole thing done and dusted in two and a half hours.
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Post by lardbucket Fri 30 May 2008, 22:16

Put the blindfold on and wait to see whether the firing squad was firing bullets or 1000 dollar bills? I like it.

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Post by Basil Fri 30 May 2008, 22:18

Gary 111 wrote:
lardbucket wrote:
Basil wrote:
lardbucket wrote:
Basil wrote:
doremi wrote:Assuming both Ponting and Tendulkar play till the '11 WC (or Ashes if they come later on in the year in case of Punter), who'd you back to score more runs?

Ponting - I think Tendy's best days are behind him and he seems to be getting more and more injury-prone. Whereas Ponting seems to be at the top of his game.

Also, Ponting plays for Australia, who over recent years have played more Tests.

What about some of the averages on this list, though ... is any stats-driven forumer prepared to argue that Ponting and Kallis are so far ahead of the other top run-scorers on this list, or that that Steve Waugh was really better than Border, and nearly as good as Gavaskar?

If I had to choose one of those players to score a hundred to save my life, it would be Border - and bollocks to averages.

Exactly.

Would make for an uncomfortable 5 hours waiting for it though. I'd be tempted to pick Lara, hope it was one of his sh!t-hot rather than sh!t days and get the whole thing done and dusted in two and a half hours.

If it was my life at stake - I wouldn't give a monkeys about the rate of scoring! Wink And Border was better against top quality quick bowling ( that's bowling at 88+mph with due deference to a different thread)
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Post by Gary 111 Fri 30 May 2008, 22:20

But on the other extreme Lara was a master against top quality spin....
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Post by tac Fri 30 May 2008, 22:22

Gary 111 wrote:
lardbucket wrote:
Basil wrote:
lardbucket wrote:
Basil wrote:
doremi wrote:Assuming both Ponting and Tendulkar play till the '11 WC (or Ashes if they come later on in the year in case of Punter), who'd you back to score more runs?

Ponting - I think Tendy's best days are behind him and he seems to be getting more and more injury-prone. Whereas Ponting seems to be at the top of his game.

Also, Ponting plays for Australia, who over recent years have played more Tests.

What about some of the averages on this list, though ... is any stats-driven forumer prepared to argue that Ponting and Kallis are so far ahead of the other top run-scorers on this list, or that that Steve Waugh was really better than Border, and nearly as good as Gavaskar?

If I had to choose one of those players to score a hundred to save my life, it would be Border - and bollocks to averages.

Exactly.

Would make for an uncomfortable 5 hours waiting for it though. I'd be tempted to pick Lara, hope it was one of his sh!t-hot rather than sh!t days and get the whole thing done and dusted in two and a half hours.

Testify to the AB call.

Gary . . . fark right off . . .
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Post by Basil Fri 30 May 2008, 22:24

Gary 111 wrote:But on the other extreme Lara was a master against top quality spin....

AB wasn't so dusty either.
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Post by JKLever Fri 30 May 2008, 22:25

AB - Essex legend.
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Post by tac Fri 30 May 2008, 22:26

JKLever wrote:AB - Essex legend.

I was gonna say that they broke the mould the day AB was created, but actually they just stretched it a bit and popped out Boonie as well . . .
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Post by Gary 111 Fri 30 May 2008, 22:27

Perhaps the best alternative would be to pick Kallis. Tell him to bat for as long as he likes and that if he gets a hundred it will count double towards his career stats...
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Post by tac Fri 30 May 2008, 22:29

Gary 111 wrote:Perhaps the best alternative would be to pick Kallis. Tell him to bat for as long as he likes and that if he gets a hundred it will count double towards his career stats...

Isn't that what they tell him now?
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Post by Gary 111 Fri 30 May 2008, 22:34

True.
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Post by embee Fri 30 May 2008, 22:35

BC Lara (ICC/WI) ...if you wanted someone to make 300 to save your life
SR Tendulkar (India) ..if you needed someone to make 100 to save your life
AR Border (Aus) ...if you wanted someone to make 50 to save your life
SR Waugh (Aus) ...if you wanted someone to get redink to save your life
SM Gavaskar (India) ...if you needed someone to not get out lbw to save your life
R Dravid (ICC/India) ...if you needed someone to bat all day to save your life
RT Ponting (Aus) ...if you needed someone to score a hundred and you aren't in India
JH Kallis (ICC/SA) ...if you needed someone to bat forever (or does it just seem that long)
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Post by Basil Fri 30 May 2008, 22:40

embee wrote:BC Lara (ICC/WI) ...if you wanted someone to make 300 to save your life
SR Tendulkar (India) ..if you needed someone to make 100 to save your life
AR Border (Aus) ...if you wanted someone to make 50 to save your life
SR Waugh (Aus) ...if you wanted someone to get redink to save your life
SM Gavaskar (India) ...if you needed someone to not get out lbw to save your life
R Dravid (ICC/India) ...if you needed someone to bat all day to save your life
RT Ponting (Aus) ...if you needed someone to score a hundred and you aren't in India
JH Kallis (ICC/SA) ...if you needed someone to bat forever (or does it just seem that long)

How much money are you going to put Lara's way first?

Border started his career earlier than Tendy and, therefore, played against better bowlers than him.


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Post by furriner Fri 30 May 2008, 22:43

embee wrote:BC Lara (ICC/WI) ...if you wanted someone to make 300 to save your life
SR Tendulkar (India) ..if you needed someone to make 100 to save your life
AR Border (Aus) ...if you wanted someone to make 50 to save your life
SR Waugh (Aus) ...if you wanted someone to get redink to save your life
SM Gavaskar (India) ...if you needed someone to not get out lbw to save your life
R Dravid (ICC/India) ...if you needed someone to bat all day to save your life
RT Ponting (Aus) ...if you needed someone to score a hundred and you aren't in India
JH Kallis (ICC/SA) ...if you needed someone to bat forever (or does it just seem that long)

You will go to hell.
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Post by furriner Fri 30 May 2008, 22:44

Basil wrote:
embee wrote:BC Lara (ICC/WI) ...if you wanted someone to make 300 to save your life
SR Tendulkar (India) ..if you needed someone to make 100 to save your life
AR Border (Aus) ...if you wanted someone to make 50 to save your life
SR Waugh (Aus) ...if you wanted someone to get redink to save your life
SM Gavaskar (India) ...if you needed someone to not get out lbw to save your life
R Dravid (ICC/India) ...if you needed someone to bat all day to save your life
RT Ponting (Aus) ...if you needed someone to score a hundred and you aren't in India
JH Kallis (ICC/SA) ...if you needed someone to bat forever (or does it just seem that long)

How much money are you going to put Lara's way first?

Border started his career earlier than Tendy and, therefore, played against better bowlers him.

Well, then Gavaskar.
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Post by Basil Fri 30 May 2008, 22:48

Gavaskar - a bit flaky if you ask me. What about that 36* in the 1975 WC off 60 overs. And threatening to take take his players off when he was pissed off at a few umpiring decisions?
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Post by Gary 111 Fri 30 May 2008, 22:53

Basil wrote:Gavaskar - a bit flaky if you ask me. What about that 36* in the 1975 WC off 60 overs. And threatening to take take his players off when he was pissed off at a few umpiring decisions?

You would think someone with the dedication to red ink to bat 60 overs of an ODI for 36* would be the master of the art. But no, it turns out he was an amateur, 16 to SRW's 46.
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Post by embee Fri 30 May 2008, 22:57

Gary 111 wrote:
Basil wrote:Gavaskar - a bit flaky if you ask me. What about that 36* in the 1975 WC off 60 overs. And threatening to take take his players off when he was pissed off at a few umpiring decisions?

You would think someone with the dedication to red ink to bat 60 overs of an ODI for 36* would be the master of the art. But no, it turns out he was an amateur, 16 to SRW's 46.

He batted four or five places higher ...
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Post by furriner Fri 30 May 2008, 22:58

Basil wrote: And threatening to take take his players off when he was pissed off at a few umpiring decisions?

All de better, he'll never get out.
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Post by embee Fri 30 May 2008, 23:00

furriner wrote:
Basil wrote: And threatening to take take his players off when he was pissed off at a few umpiring decisions?

All de better, he'll never get out.

Sunny was never out ...just let down by bad umpiring and defective stumps
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Post by furriner Fri 30 May 2008, 23:23

embee wrote:
furriner wrote:
Basil wrote: And threatening to take take his players off when he was pissed off at a few umpiring decisions?

All de better, he'll never get out.

Sunny was never out ...just let down by bad umpiring and defective stumps

Unlike some recent members of the 10K club I could name, at least he had a brain.
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Post by Ash Sat 31 May 2008, 00:20

SRT should retire from odis as his record there will never be matched, especially now t20 is set to take over. he should set out stall for 15k runs and the BCCI should help him achieve this milestone by cutting down the JAMODIS in favour of tests, with bangladesh touring every year.
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Post by tac Sat 31 May 2008, 00:48

furriner wrote:
embee wrote:
furriner wrote:
Basil wrote: And threatening to take take his players off when he was pissed off at a few umpiring decisions?

All de better, he'll never get out.

Sunny was never out ...just let down by bad umpiring and defective stumps

Unlike some recent members of the 10K club I could name, at least he had a brain.

A bit harsh on Dravid and Tendy, furry.
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Post by furriner Sat 31 May 2008, 01:05

tac wrote:
furriner wrote:
embee wrote:
furriner wrote:
Basil wrote: And threatening to take take his players off when he was pissed off at a few umpiring decisions?

All de better, he'll never get out.

Sunny was never out ...just let down by bad umpiring and defective stumps

Unlike some recent members of the 10K club I could name, at least he had a brain.

A bit harsh on Dravid and Tendy, furry.

I totally agree tac. Either of them could have been Ponting's dad, but I guess the retard beat them over the fence.
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Post by PearlJ Sat 31 May 2008, 01:14

Well done Tricky P!

One step closer to earning the respect and appreciation he deserves.
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