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Post by leg glancer Sat 26 Jul 2008, 16:22

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Post by doremi Sat 26 Jul 2008, 16:24

Does anyone else see the pattern upto now? Think this is an 'inside' job.
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Post by The One Sat 26 Jul 2008, 16:59

16 blasts in amd today. 18 dead. 3 blasts in the hospitals where the injured were taken

utter madness

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Post by The One Sat 26 Jul 2008, 17:02

doremi wrote:Does anyone else see the pattern upto now? Think this is an 'inside' job.

we shall never know. as with every other blast in india. sheer incompetence and politics will make sure of that

these low-intensity high-number blasts are worrying. you need materials you can probably buy off the shelf

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Post by JGK Sun 27 Jul 2008, 07:15

Is the Aust tour of India later this year now in jeopardy?

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Post by embee Sun 27 Jul 2008, 09:52

Ban India
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Post by skully Sun 27 Jul 2008, 12:47

Bang India?
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Post by Henry Sun 27 Jul 2008, 12:50

Death toll in Ahmebabad now at least 49 according to reports.
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Post by Josh Carney Mon 28 Jul 2008, 02:35

Quite simply tougher laws are required. The US has them UK does too. However the coalition centre pussy foots on this much to the delight of the warped twisties. The Cong and BJP need to unite on this and take a tough stand. It is too important an issue to play politics.

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Post by Batman Mon 28 Jul 2008, 07:58

SG wrote:This was the time when everyone should've been united BJP is busy blaming central govt for these blasts.

What idiots!!!!!

Have they forgotton that they themselves are in power in K'taka?

Only you could have come up with that. So what about Sheila Dixit in Delhi last Diwali and what about Vilasrao Deshmukh 2 years back in Mumbai [The shameless Congress-NCP Govt. in Maharashtra has NOT paid a single rupee as compensation to the victims TOO Date]. Maharashtra was supposed to set up a specialized intelligence cell after the train blasts and 2 years on what was done? NOTHING!

No one is as one eyed as you are where Congress misdeeds are concerned. I should remind you about some steps Congress has taken since coming to power at Center to 'fight terrorism' -

1] Increase more buses and trains to Pakistan and Bangladesh and liberalized travel norms allowing scores of jehadis and agents to infiltrate.

2] Allowed more Bangladeshi aliens to be regularized for building more Muslim votes. Just 2 months back when the Delhi CM was asked about Bangladeshis settling in Delhi and getting ration cards in wake of Jaipur blasts, she had this to say,"Our country has a tradition of welcoming guests. 'Athithi Devo Bhava'. Also we give ration cards as per 'norms' based on 'income and period of residence' and we can't deny anyone food. [So why have an Immigration department? Just shut it and open the borders. I wonder why terrorists risk crossing borders slyly. They might as show up at Mrs. Dik-shit's doorstep and be converted into Indian citizens].

3] Scrapped all anti-terror laws like TADA and POTA even as other countries strengthened their anti-terror laws post 9/11. Muslim Appeasement disguised as 'Secularism'. So if some laws do get misused by police force in some cases, the solution is not to fix the problem but to scrap the law itself. In which case all laws in India have been abused and misused so we should have no laws to fix it in the first place. So why selectively do away with only those that end up benefitting terrorists ironically?

4] Constant refusal to hang a terrorist to death despite a Supreme Court verdict [an attacker of the Indian Parliament, no less]. All the talk of taking stringent action is as hollow as Congress itself.

5] Allowing Hawala rackets in Muslim dominated states like J&K, Kerala etc. where funds from across the border finance various Madrasas to create fundamentalists.

6] Refusal to heed to Security Services request for strong anti-terror laws and alloting sufficient funds for modernization and intelligence gathering. It is strange that 50 years old laws meant to sentence cheaters and robbers also try terrorists for crimes.

7] Whipped up communal tensions in Kashmir by completely mishandling the Amarnath Shrine issue and stroking passions in the valley which after 2 decades had died down somewhat.

8] Politics against BJP ruled states where Congress ruled state like Maharashtra is allowed to have a law like MCOCA for cracking down on Organized crime but the same is denied to Rajasthan and Gujarat.

9] And the Police Force is completely shackled to the point where they are not even in a position to take preventative action in the name of being 'Sensitive To Minorities'.

10] Thanks to lack of strong anti-terror laws even terrorists who are caught are still to face trial as they keep filing various petitions in higher courts and keep delaying processes and keep playing Muslim persecution card and citing lack of faith in courts and are allowed to get away with it as is the case of Train blasts in Mumbai, convicts taking the law for a ride in Maharashtra. The arrested terrorists even have the power to move a no-confidence motion against a presiding judge in a trial court and have that judge transferred. Jai Ho Congress. Jai Ho Maharashtra.

11] And here's the rider. When Manmohan Singh first became Prime Minister, his first job in Lok Sabha was to try and get the ban on 'SIMI' lifted. That other states protested and did not allow him to succeed was what has probably saved this country from seeing bomb blasts every single day now. He now has won the 'Trust' vote with the backing of Mulayam Singh Yadav, another SIMI sympathizer who was the Chief Minister of UP, and who had publicly given a clean chit to SIMI when blasts rocked Varanasi last year even before Police could conclude investigations. See a pattern here or were you born blind and deluded like this?

So when people like you refuse to see a united pan India problem and ignore Congress dirty games to take cheap potshots at other parties whom you don't like, then what moral right do you have to expect the same for Politicians? Learn to accept bitter truths first and a majority of these problems are Congress created.


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Post by JGK Mon 28 Jul 2008, 09:50

Again, is the Australian tour of India later this year now in doubt?

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Post by freddled gruntbuggly Mon 28 Jul 2008, 11:32

Will depend on whether there's further similar activity, at a guess. The players would have to be concerned.
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Post by The One Mon 28 Jul 2008, 11:35

you should be asking the acb or the aussie players that. no one else can answer

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Post by Batman Mon 28 Jul 2008, 16:46

There are PROs and CONs to everything TO. Even countries. India is no exception. The PRO-gress lies with BJP-NDA in the near future. On the opposite side there will always be the CON-Gress to pull us back. I remember people thinking of India as a Banana Republic when Rajiv Gandhi was in power. All he said all the time was 'Hamein yeh BANANA hai", "Hamien Woh BANANA hai", "Humein Bharat BANANA hai".....

Thats what one should always expect from CON-gress best symbolized by Vilasrao Deshmukh's rule in Maharashtra. They will only talk and delude the voters and won't ever get anything done. Just like his vision of 'Shanghai' in Mumbai, all they have to offer is dreams to the people while they divide and cut them up in pieces. Dreams for the common man [gifted newer forms of taxes by them like FBT, VAT, Service Tax, Cess etc.], Farmers [Free electricity and a mirage called loan waivers even as they sign up to commit mass suicides], and grand visions of Progress, where nothing gets off the paper and drawing boards for decades.

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Post by Batman Tue 29 Jul 2008, 14:08

18 bombs found and diffused in Surat so far, 3 more in Jaipur and yet everyone can see what is happening except the Crooks Party of India currently headed by Sonia Gandhi [who bailed out convicted criminal politicians for surviving a Trust Motion in Parliament, wonder if SG supports such ethics as well] who will walk over blood of countless innocenst in their quest for power and Muslim votes......
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Post by Josh Carney Wed 30 Jul 2008, 02:30

I sincerely hope that these half concealed bombs are just decoys for some other nasty.

Across US to EU to Russia and most of Asia not to mention the hot bed of middleeast these self righteous religious zealots, who proclaim to know the ultimate truth and have access to the ultimate god are taking the World back to the dark middle ages.

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Post by SG Wed 30 Jul 2008, 05:33

In this context I am pretty sure BJP will do a much better job.
What a warped statement to make?

I guess, terrorist attacks like Parliament attack, Akshardham temple and red fort never happened. Or might've happened when BJP was not in power.

Or Pak never invaded Kargil.

Or India foreign minister of all persons never escorted 5 dreaded terrorists to Kabul.

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Post by SG Wed 30 Jul 2008, 05:49

Whether BJP stooges accept it or not, its a fact that BJP is as good or bad as any other party when it comes to handling terrorism in India.

And what the hell about this hue and cry raised by pseudo Lauh Purush about POTA? Isn't it a fact that POTA was in place when BJP was in power? Were they able to prevent any terrorism attack on India?

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Post by Josh Carney Wed 30 Jul 2008, 06:06

Rubbish arguments SG. BJP will not dilute the laws to pander the minorities, that is not to say thet it will eliminate all the terrorist attacks. At the moment the UPA has no clue on how to tackle this escalating menace other than point out terrorist attacks during the BJP regime. The US & UK have tightened their laws inspite of reservations from various groups and have had great success in weeding out these rogue elements. It is not that easy in India given the ratio of law enforcers to population plus the sizebale minority one does not want to alienate for fear of giving them an excuse to sympathise with these warped causes. But that does not mean that the UPA should not even try. The structure of the UPA and its dependence on minorities is hampering them from being decisive about this issue. They showed some balls with the nuclear issue, this issue is more important for the nation and if UPA does not respond positively they will pay the price.

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Post by SG Wed 30 Jul 2008, 06:12

BJP will not dilute the laws to pander the minorities,
But what did they do to avoid such attacks? Did they not happen during their time?

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Post by Josh Carney Wed 30 Jul 2008, 06:15

The attacks are increasing in a brazen fashion day after day and the UPA's spineless pandering on this front is contributing to this. It is all a relative merit comparison, read my earlier post, there is no absolute answer to this.

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Post by SG Wed 30 Jul 2008, 06:21

UPA's spineless pandering on this front is contributing to this
And states have nothing to answer for it? What about their intelligence networks and forces? Both K'taka and Gujrat were warned atleast 3 days back about these attacks. Needless to say they did nothing other than preparing for verbal warfare with centre.

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Post by Josh Carney Wed 30 Jul 2008, 06:22

The states need a tool to pick up suspects sometimes even erring on the side of caution, in order to act on these so called tips. That is what is missing now.


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Post by SG Wed 30 Jul 2008, 06:25

And how low BJP people can go? BJP spokesperson Sushma Swaraj has alleged that these blasts happened only to divert people's attention for cash for vote scam. It means that only thing she (BJP) cares for is to concentrate people's attention on culprits of that scam. Hundreds of innocents victims' lives don't matter to them. Only thing they want to score is some political points.

What a big idiot she must be!!!

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Post by Josh Carney Wed 30 Jul 2008, 06:31

Yep all that rubbish point scoring is exactly that. I am only interested in getting the right solutions and don't want to get caught with the personalities or point scorings. Accordinlgy we need something like a POTA to be able to round up suspects in a preventative fashion.

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