Re: The EPL thread (I)

by doremi Tue 02 Oct 2007, 15:41

Yup, agree. Not a ManU fan but on song they look brilliant. Arsenal could use a striker like Berbatov as well. Liverpool have plenty.

by Merlin Tue 02 Oct 2007, 16:33

Steve wrote:
Talk about letting bias get in the way of judgement. Only Arsenal rival Man U for playing the most attractive football in the premiership.

True - a tinge of bias - but the point I was making, just in case you missed it, was that ManU prefer the robust muscular thrusting forward - unlike Berbatov who is more the lithe and sublime type - who is more suited to the likes of Arsenal and Liverpool.

Hope that clarifies ...

PS - take Rooney and Ronaldo out of the front line (as happened for the first 5 games this season) and Man U look decidedly average ... so "attractive" is all a matter of subjectivity, depending on your leanings.

It would be fair to say that both Liverpool and Arsenal (together with flashes of Chelsea) are the attractive playmakers - Scum are more workmanlike in their approach.
A one goal margin-win these past 4 games perhaps proves the point.

by PearlJ Tue 02 Oct 2007, 18:09

Merlin wrote:
Steve wrote:
Talk about letting bias get in the way of judgement. Only Arsenal rival Man U for playing the most attractive football in the premiership.
True - a tinge of bias - but the point I was making, just in case you missed it, was that ManU prefer the robust muscular thrusting forward - unlike Berbatov who is more the lithe and sublime type - who is more suited to the likes of Arsenal and Liverpool.

Hope that clarifies ...

PS - take Rooney and Ronaldo out of the front line (as happened for the first 5 games this season) and Man U look decidedly average ... so "attractive" is all a matter of subjectivity, depending on your leanings.

It would be fair to say that both Liverpool and Arsenal (together with flashes of Chelsea) are the attractive playmakers - Scum are more workmanlike in their approach.
A one goal margin-win these past 4 games perhaps proves the point.

It doesn't prove anything. They scored 20 more goals than anyone else last season, and that was over 38 games. A few scratchy wins over 8 games doesn't prove anything. Nani, Tevez, Saha, Scholes, Giggs and PJS doesn't look average to me.

by Merlin Tue 02 Oct 2007, 18:38

PearlJ wrote:
It doesn't prove anything. They scored 20 more goals than anyone else last season, and that was over 38 games. A few scratchy wins over 8 games doesn't prove anything. Nani, Tevez, Saha, Scholes, Giggs and PJS doesn't look average to me.

History ol' son! That was last season.
This season they're 8 goals behind Arsenal, and that only after 7 games !!! Are you getting the message?

by Gary 111 Tue 02 Oct 2007, 18:40

Yeah, although to be fair to Man U they don't usually start whining and screaming like a bunch of pre-pubescant girls every time they have to play a match north of the Watford Gap.

by Merlin Tue 02 Oct 2007, 18:54

Gary 111 wrote:Yeah, although to be fair to Man U they don't usually start whining and screaming like a bunch of pre-pubescant girls every time they have to play a match north of the Watford Gap.

Ever tuned into a post match Fergie moaning fest Gazza?

Try it sometime - But make sure you have a bucket nearby.

The ref, the linesman, Irish mafia, the opposition cheats, the crowd, his wife, the dog ... have I missed anything out?

oh yes, that horse that he tried swindling off Michael Tabor ...

by Gary 111 Tue 02 Oct 2007, 18:56

Thankfully Taggart is refusing to give the BBC interviews anymore. Suits me fine...

by Merlin Tue 02 Oct 2007, 18:58

Gary 111 wrote:Thankfully Taggart is refusing to give the BBC interviews anymore. Suits me fine...

Aye true, but understanding his oppo can be a wee bit heavy on the comprehension sometimes.

by PearlJ Tue 02 Oct 2007, 19:32

Merlin wrote:
PearlJ wrote:
It doesn't prove anything. They scored 20 more goals than anyone else last season, and that was over 38 games. A few scratchy wins over 8 games doesn't prove anything. Nani, Tevez, Saha, Scholes, Giggs and PJS doesn't look average to me.

History ol' son! That was last season.
This season they're 8 goals behind Arsenal, and that only after 7 games !!! Are you getting the message?

And? They are only 2 points behind them. You don't win anything in October.

by doremi Tue 02 Oct 2007, 19:32

Well, Arsenal do have one game in hand....

by JKLever Tue 02 Oct 2007, 19:34

Chumpions League tonight.

Manure v Roma

The Arse in Bucharest

by doremi Tue 02 Oct 2007, 19:54

Always get terrible commentators. Mad

by Makaveli Tue 02 Oct 2007, 20:04

Merlin wrote:
Scum tend to go for heavyweight/muscular forwards to bulldoze their way in and around the box ... deft (other than Ronaldo) is not in the Scots git's vocab.
And deft is what Berbatov is.

This has to be a joke? Rooney/Saha/Tevez are hardly "muscular forwards" in the Alan Shearer mould, those guys play around the box asswell down the wings hardly the job of a muscular center forward.

by Makaveli Tue 02 Oct 2007, 20:08

Merlin wrote:
It would be fair to say that both Liverpool and Arsenal (together with flashes of Chelsea) are the attractive playmakers - Scum are more workmanlike in their approach.
A one goal margin-win these past 4 games perhaps proves the point.

This has to be an even bigger joke, did you actually see Chelsea play last year let alone this year? yes they were efficient in winning but hardly attractive to watch infact they were the most boring of the big four for the last couple of years.

Btw Liverpool have a muscular team going forward than most in Kuyt/Crouch and Gerrard.

by JKLever Tue 02 Oct 2007, 20:36

0-0 in both games at HT

Champions league group stages can be a bit of a bore, particularly if both teams feel they'll go through regardless of the result of the game

by LeFromage Tue 02 Oct 2007, 20:40

United haven't found their attacking game at all this season. They've been very ordinary in the final third.

Another one-niller on the cards?

by JKLever Tue 02 Oct 2007, 20:42

Aye - no width.

I'd bring Giggs on, but he's been gash apparently

by doremi Tue 02 Oct 2007, 20:44

They need an out and out, 3 goals a season man. Berbatov would be perfect up front with Rooney and/or Tevez behind him.

by doremi Tue 02 Oct 2007, 20:46

So, how did the game go in Bucharest? How many chances did Arsenal miss?

by JKLever Tue 02 Oct 2007, 20:48

Nothing clear cut - couple of chances each side.

by Ash Tue 02 Oct 2007, 20:50

doremi wrote:So, how did the game go in Bucharest? How many chances did Arsenal miss?

fabregas missed a sitter. their keeper made a couple of decent saves. they missed a couple of good chances too. quite an open game so far

by doremi Tue 02 Oct 2007, 20:52

Disgraceful. The commentator I'm getting actualy said "Oh no, no!" when Totti got into a good position.

by Gary 111 Tue 02 Oct 2007, 20:56

Rangers going potty in Lyon, don't they know Scottish teams are only in this to make up the numbers?

by Ash Tue 02 Oct 2007, 20:57

rangers 3-0 up IN lyon!! Shocked

whats goin on with scottish football...?!

by Gary 111 Tue 02 Oct 2007, 21:15

Ol' Potato Head gets his first of the season to put the MU Rowdies one up.

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