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Post by Big_Bad_Bob Fri 20 Feb 2009, 20:59

Here: Flower wants England coach role

And who would back against it with the current gimps in charge at the ECB?

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Post by Basil Fri 20 Feb 2009, 21:01

Nnnnnnnnnnnnnnooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pass the revolver Bob Twisted Evil - to shoot Flower actually. I think I'd get off with justifiable homicide - might even get an MBE.
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Post by Chivalry Augustus Fri 20 Feb 2009, 21:17

Better than Geoff Lawson.
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Post by JKLever Fri 20 Feb 2009, 21:23

Only redeeming feature would be he isn't Gilo.
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Post by LeFromage Fri 20 Feb 2009, 21:24

Anyone else thinking of applying?

http://www.candidatemanager.net/CM/Micro/JobDetails.aspx?&mid=YFBEV&sid=BAZUGT&jid=EVGTUAZFB&site=England

ENGLAND TEAM DIRECTOR
Based at the National Cricket Performance Centre, Loughborough University
The vision of the England and Wales Cricket Board (ECB) is to become
and remain the most successful and respected cricket nation in the
world.

In order to achieve this ambitious goal ECB is seeking
to appoint an outstanding individual to the position of England Team
Director. The post holder will be the senior official within the
England Team and will exercise full control over all other Team
management personnel. The successful candidate will provide the day to
day leadership of both overseas and home series, and in conjunction
with the England Captain, Team Management and players, will promote the
highest standards of performance, behaviour and discipline.

The
England Team Director will work in close consultation and partnership
with the England Captain who leads the Players on the field, and with
the MD England Cricket to develop and deliver national policies to
create sustainable success. The post holder is charged with preparing
the Team in all appropriate ways to compete successfully in
international competition.

The successful candidate will
report to the MD England Cricket and will work closely with England
Team Management, First Class Counties and other support staff in order
to successfully prepare future England cricketers for international
competition.

Applicants should have the following attributes:

· Demonstrable success as a cricket coach or manager at domestic and/or international level
· A minimum of ECB Level 3 coaching qualification or international equivalent;
· Strong disciplinary skills
· Excellent communication, interpersonal and influencing skills
· Excellent media skills
· Deep knowledge of high performance sport including sports science and medicine
· Successful track record of working with international sports teams and individual performers
For an informal and confidential discussion please contact Simon
Cummins, Head of International Sports Practice Odgers Ray &
Berndtson, who is assisting ECB with the selection process.
Tel: 0207 529 1053 Email: simon.cummins@odgers.com
Closing date for receipt of applications is 17.00 on Friday 6 March 2009
JOB DESCRIPTION
1. Purpose of the job:

The England Team
Director is the senior official within the England Team and exercises
full control over all other Team Management personnel. The post holder
is accountable to the MD England Cricket for the performances of the
England Team, and as such will provide the day to day leadership of
both overseas and home series, and in conjunction with the England
Captain, Team Management and players, will promote the highest
standards of behaviour and discipline.

The role provides the
necessary leadership and guidance to the Team so as to develop and
maintain its place as a successful and respected international team.
The post holder exercises this role in close consultation and
partnership with the England Captain who leads the Players on the
field, and the MD England Cricket in order to develop and deliver
policies to create sustainable success. The post holder is charged with
preparing the Team in all appropriate ways to compete successfully in
international competition.

2. Principle Responsibilities:
To be responsible for the management of the England Team (including
the England Captain) and Management staff in order to create a high
performing unit.
To work in partnership with the England Captain in order to create
an environment in which players are empowered to prepare and perform to
a ‘World Class’ standard on and off the field.
To be responsible for organising practice and preparation of the
England Team both at home and overseas in order for the Team to compete
successfully in all international matches and events.
To direct the implementation of preparation programmes of England
Centrally Contracted and England Performance Squad Players in
conjunction with the Performance Director and Head of Science and
Medicine, in order to ensure Players are fit, healthy, well-prepared
and able to perform to the best of their abilities in all England
matches.
To prepare a schedule of England Team activities in order to ensure
England Players and Management are aware of events both on and off the
field including official functions and other non-cricketing activities
and obligations.
To be a member of the England Selection Panel, and as such have a
vote in selecting England squads for home Test, ODI and Twenty20 Series
and overseas tours, as well as selecting Players for Central and
Increment Contracts, the England Performance Squad and England ‘Lions’
Team.
To provide technical and tactical support and advice to the England
Captain including the sourcing of key information on opponents as well
as England Players in order to develop Teams plans and strategies for
each international match.
To work closely with the England Captain on an on-going basis to
ensure consistency of message from Team Director and Captain and
provide leadership and direction to the England Players and Management
Team in order to achieve the goals for each match and Series which have
been set by the England Team Director in conjunction with the England
Captain.

To be responsible for determining the availability of
Players in the England Performance Squad for all County cricket, except
the Friend’s Provident Trophy Final, and establishing a process of
informing the respective Counties.
To conduct an appraisal of each Player on a Central and Increment
Contract at the start of the winter programme in order to set
performance goals for the year, and continually monitor their progress
including conducting an interim review before the start of the summer
competitive schedule.
To conduct an appraisal of England Management personnel in
conjunction with the Head of Sports Science and Medicine and Head of
Elite Coach Development at the start of the winter programme in order
to set performance goals for the year, and continually monitor their
progress including conducting an interim review before the start of the
summer competitive schedule.
In the event of an England Player or member of the England
Management Team breaching their Conditions of Employment or otherwise
breaching Team discipline the England Team Director will be responsible
for implementing the disciplinary procedures set out in the respective
employment contracts or referring serious breaches to the MD England
Cricket.
In conjunction with the England Captain to be available to be
consulted by the Banding Review Group in order to determine the banding
of players on Central Contracts.
To be available to speak to the media before, during or after a
match and at other such times as requested by the England Team Media
Manager or the MD England Cricket.
To act as the primary point of contact with ICC Match Referees and
Umpires with all matters related to the ‘Spirit of the Game’,
regulations and conduct of England matches, and submit the necessary
reports on the performances of Match Officials to ICC.
To submit a report on England performances at the conclusion of each
Series and be available to debrief the Series with the MD England
Cricket and other members of the England cricket department including
Players and Team Management.
To promote the interests of and assist in creating a positive image
for the England Cricket Team and the England and Wales Cricket Board in
seeking to become and remain the most successful and respected cricket
nation in the world.

3. Nature and Scope of Job:
Job Context:

The mission of ECB is developing the
game from the playground to the Test arena. The key objective of the
organisation is to develop and maintain a successful England cricket
team.

The England Team Director is charged with the
responsibility of preparing the England Team to the best possible
technical, tactical, physical and mental state in order for it to
compete successfully in all international matches and ICC Global
Events.

Working Relationships:

· MD England Cricket
· England Team Management
· England Captain and Players
· Performance Director
· Director of England Cricket Operations
· Head of Science and Medicine
· Chief Medical Officer
· Head of Elite Coach Education
· First Class County Directors of Cricket / Head Coaches
· Media
· Commercial partners
· ICC Match Referees and Umpires

4. Knowledge, Skills and Experience:

· Demonstrable success as a cricket coach at domestic and/or international level
· A minimum of ECB Level 3 coaching qualification or international equivalent
· Strong disciplinary skills
· Excellent communication, interpersonal and influencing skills
· Excellent media skills
· Expert knowledge and understanding of international cricket
· Expert knowledge of the ICC Future Tours Programme, rules and regulations
· Good knowledge and understanding of First Class County system
· Good knowledge of sports science and medicine
· Self-contained operator with good computer/IT literacy
· Excellent knowledge and understanding of working with international sports teams and individual performers



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Post by Basil Fri 20 Feb 2009, 23:26

So, now they're calling it Team Director, I wonder how this differs from the Job Descrption which Moorsey or Feltch signed up to.
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Post by embee Fri 20 Feb 2009, 23:54

If only they'd thought of that when KP made his ultimatum ' I can't be Captain if he is the Coach' ...' It's ok , he's no longer Coach ....he's Team Director'
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Post by Zat Fri 20 Feb 2009, 23:58

The vision of the England and Wales Cricket Board (ECB) is to become
and remain the most successful and respected cricket nation in the
world.
Nice to have a vision. Probably better to have an attainable vision.

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Post by Basil Sat 21 Feb 2009, 00:02

Zat wrote:
The vision of the England and Wales Cricket Board (ECB) is to become
and remain the most successful and respected cricket nation in the
world.
Nice to have a vision. Probably better to have an attainable vision.

Damn right "The vision of the England and Wales Cricket Board (ECB) is to keep it's well paid executive officers in nice suits, to maintain the glass ceiling which separates the professional and non-professional games in England and Wales, and for England to win the odd game here and there - preferably against the Aussies - to appease the critics"
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Post by Zat Sat 21 Feb 2009, 00:24

That's much more realistic.

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Post by OP Tipping Sat 21 Feb 2009, 01:56

So what is the cause of this anti-Flower sentiment?
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Post by Guest Sat 21 Feb 2009, 07:53

Why is Flower so bad? It's not his fault that our bowlers are carp.

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Post by OP Tipping Sat 21 Feb 2009, 10:25

Get it? Pack passion?
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Post by Basil Sat 21 Feb 2009, 10:27

Rob I wrote:Why is Flower so bad? It's not his fault that our bowlers are carp.

What's he done for the batsmen?

I'd start with a clean slate, and let the new coach errrr........ Team Director bring his own people in.
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Post by beamer Sat 21 Feb 2009, 10:52

Rob I wrote:Why is Flower so bad? It's not his fault that our bowlers are carp.
Overseeing two performances as spineless as being bowled out for 51 and failing to bowl out the West Indies in a day and a half, plus no doubt having an influence on the captain's negative tactics, hint quite strongly he's not up to it.

Anyway, he would be a Moores-type easy/cheap option. The ECB should identify the man they feel is the best in the world then pay whatever it takes to get him. Same goes for the bowling coach role.

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Post by Big_Bad_Bob Sat 21 Feb 2009, 11:36

What Beamer said. ^

Not just a Moores type, but totally entangled with, and tainted by the crappy Moores era.

It would be McClaren succeeding Sven all over again.
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Post by beamer Sat 21 Feb 2009, 11:44

Big_Bad_Bob wrote:What Beamer said. ^

Not just a Moores type, but totally entangled with, and tainted by the crappy Moores era.

It would be McClaren succeeding Sven all over again.
Well, Fletcher was the equivalent of Sven really, decent at first but his time was clearly up by the time he went. Moores was McClaren, cheap and poorly thought out easy option English replacement. It's cricket's Capello we need now!

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Post by Big_Bad_Bob Sat 21 Feb 2009, 11:52

Indeed.

Hence 'all over again'.

Capello, aye. Not sure there's one out there unfortunately...

I reckon Rod Marsh might be the nearest equivalent, he'd stand for no crap. Probably lacking in the necessary front line experience though, so would be a gamble.
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Post by Guest Sat 21 Feb 2009, 12:54

Basil wrote:
Rob I wrote:Why is Flower so bad? It's not his fault that our bowlers are carp.

What's he done for the batsmen?

Strauss - probably nothing - his improvement is down to getting the captaincy back

Cook - gone backwards

Bell - gone backwards

KP - nothing

Colly - recent improvement - three tons in last eight tests.

Fred - gone backwards

Hmmm, pretty damning....

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Post by Big_Bad_Bob Sat 21 Feb 2009, 13:36

He's fully schooled in the bullsheet speak so prevalently emanating from the England camp nowadays. Speaking about Fred: -

'It is quite likely he might be out of the next Test' - Flower

I mean WTF?

'Yes, he's struggling' would have sufficed, but oh no, they have to come out with this meaningless double talk.

Just fark off the lot of you. Rolling Eyes
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Post by JKLever Sat 21 Feb 2009, 13:38

But then again, he can't bat for them and if those muppets need a coach to tell them what to do they shouldn't be playing the game.

A batting coach should be someone you go to when you have technical problems imo, not for telling a player how to bat.
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Post by beamer Sat 21 Feb 2009, 14:58

JKLever wrote:But then again, he can't bat for them and if those muppets need a coach to tell them what to do they shouldn't be playing the game.

A batting coach should be someone you go to when you have technical problems imo, not for telling a player how to bat.
A coach/manager will always be restricted by the talent and temperament of the players available to him. For example nobody has yet been able to turn Bangladesh into winners, and that's because they are just not developing good enough players for whatever reason.

But the coach's job is to motivate and inspire the team, deal with any problems in the squad (going as far as getting rid of individuals who have a negative influence if necessary) and get the players performing to the best of their ability. That's what has not been happening with England recently.

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Post by Zat Sat 21 Feb 2009, 22:22

English cricket in crisis?

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Post by JKLever Sat 21 Feb 2009, 23:37

Zat wrote:English cricket in crisis?

Take it as a given until we announce otherwise....
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Post by lardbucket Sat 21 Feb 2009, 23:40

Rob I wrote:
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Rob I wrote:Why is Flower so bad? It's not his fault that our bowlers are carp.

What's he done for the batsmen?

Strauss - probably nothing - his improvement is down to getting the captaincy back

Is it really just this, though, or has he got his technique back? He seemed to totally lose his ability to drive for a while there.

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