Re: John Howard to be next VP of ICC

by horace Tue 02 Mar 2010, 06:59

how could this creep have the remotest chance of delivering anything positive???

even his own electorate loathed him so much he lost his own seat as well govt.and this before the recession

by Merlin Tue 02 Mar 2010, 08:17

horace wrote:how could this creep have the remotest chance of delivering anything positive???

even his own electorate loathed him so much he lost his own seat as well govt.and this before the recession

Perhaps because Howard was a much admired statesman and a decisive leader.
You most probably don't understand nor appreciate these facts, being of roman (small r) origin 'orrie ... as your "leaders" back then .... (even now with Berlusconni) ... were more partial to a quick strum on a fiddle, or indeed a quick fiddle on their strum(pets) and sisters, to warrant any recognition as true statemen and leaders of their time.
At least Canberra didn't burn on Howards' watch!

by embee Tue 02 Mar 2010, 08:23

"At least Canberra didn't burn on Howards' watch!"

It did actually

by Fred Nerk Tue 02 Mar 2010, 08:26

We can't get the wind past embee toninght -- he is unstoppable.

by Hass Tue 02 Mar 2010, 08:41

embee wrote:i thought he was going to be put in charge of the commision that is being set up to farque leeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeg

He was going to but Anthony Albanese put the hard word on some League powerbrokers and they got cold feet. The Labor party still holds a lot of sway in League circles, so the move got hit on the head.

by Zat Tue 02 Mar 2010, 08:41

Merlin wrote:Perhaps because Howard was a much admired statesman

John Howard to be next VP of ICC - Page 2 Smells10

by Hass Tue 02 Mar 2010, 08:45

bodyline wrote:Could spell the end of any chance of cracking the China market - ol' LJH wouldn't let some pinko, left, commie play the "gentlemen's game".

It's not like John Howard strengthened Australia's relationship with China, securing all those deals for them to buy our resources.

Paul Keating said Howard wouldn't be able to deal with Asian leaders, so he must be right, even though all the evidence of the past 15 years suggests otherwise.

by Merlin Tue 02 Mar 2010, 08:48

Fred Nerk wrote:We can't get the wind past embee toninght -- he is unstoppable.

Blame the Korma ....

Oh wait ... WE can't get the wind ....

by Fred Nerk Tue 02 Mar 2010, 08:50

"He was going to but Anthony Albanese put the hard word on some League powerbrokers and they got cold feet. The Labor party still holds a lot of sway in League circles, so the move got hit on the head."

Unlike Leeeeg for anybody or anything to get hit in the head......

by Paul Keating Tue 02 Mar 2010, 08:53

Hass wrote:Paul Keating said Howard wouldn't be able to deal with Asian leaders, so he must be right, even though all the evidence of the past 15 years suggests otherwise.

Are you kidding me, Hassett?

Rubbish. Absolute rubbish that Howard strengthened Australia's name in the region.

by Paul Keating Tue 02 Mar 2010, 08:56

In any case, I don't mind Howard's appointment. I hope he can clean up the corruption of cricket's governing body.

He more than has the capacity to do a good job.

by lardbucket Tue 02 Mar 2010, 08:57

Paul Keating wrote:
Hass wrote:Paul Keating said Howard wouldn't be able to deal with Asian leaders, so he must be right, even though all the evidence of the past 15 years suggests otherwise.

Are you kidding me, Hassett?

Rubbish. Absolute rubbish that Howard strengthened Australia's name in the region.

Recalcitrant.

by Hass Tue 02 Mar 2010, 09:14

Paul Keating wrote:
Hass wrote:Paul Keating said Howard wouldn't be able to deal with Asian leaders, so he must be right, even though all the evidence of the past 15 years suggests otherwise.

Are you kidding me, Hassett?

Rubbish. Absolute rubbish that Howard strengthened Australia's name in the region.

I said he strengthened our relationship with China - I don't think that is really in dispute. You may say that's because China don't care about human rights - fair enough. But Howard's dealings with China were VERY successful.

As for Indonesia, I don't think the relationship is as chummy as it was in Keating's day but I think that's a good thing. Howard was able to maintain a good working relationship with Indonesia despite taking a tough line on East Timor and asylum seekers.

Japan is the other important country in Asia as far as Australia is concerned. Our relationship with them continued smoothly, the odd tiff over whaling aside. We now have an important security deal with them, while Howard also got the ball rollinng on a Free Trade Agreement which will hopefully come to fruition under Rudd.

Now it's all well and good for some people to pretend they're New Zealanders and say "our name in the region has been damaged" but when it comes to hard concrete relationships in Asia, Howard got the runs on the board. The ICC could do with a person like that.

by JKLever Tue 02 Mar 2010, 12:07

I don't care about the politics, I just want to know how far up the ICC he can get.

Ok, so England winning a world cup is a long shot but the thought of old grumpy bastard sourpuss being forced to present another trophy to an England team warms the testicles on a cold day.

by JGK Tue 02 Mar 2010, 12:32

embee wrote:"At least Canberra didn't burn on Howards' watch!"

It did actually

PMSL.... gold.

by PeterCS Tue 02 Mar 2010, 12:35

by horace Tue 02 Mar 2010, 22:42

JGK wrote:
embee wrote:"At least Canberra didn't burn on Howards' watch!"

It did actually

PMSL.... gold.

many golden moments already in this thread - esp from embee and merls...the tragedy is that LJH played the race card more times than Harby and will prove highly divisive - hope the little rat pegs out before inflicting more damage on the world

by furriner Tue 02 Mar 2010, 22:45

Well, he'll be following His Oiliness Sharad Pawar, so meh.

by horace Tue 02 Mar 2010, 22:48

furri...howard's record on race relations is as abject as can be found in western capitalist countries...he creates division wherever he goes...I would prefer Modi to run the ICC and would have more faith in him to run it fairly