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Post by Blackadder Tue 21 Dec 2010, 17:28

http://www.foxsports.com.au/cricket/west-indies-off-spinner-shane-shillingford-suspended-by-icc-for-illegal-bowling-action/story-e6frf3g3-1225974690801

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Post by taipan Tue 21 Dec 2010, 17:54

Depends what country you play for I guess.
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Post by WIFAN Tue 21 Dec 2010, 18:30

Well his action had deteriorated significantly during his last few tests so I am not at all surprised.

Hopefully he sorts himself out in the next few months like Botha did (cough cough.. the guy clearly still pelts).
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Post by taipan Tue 21 Dec 2010, 18:37

Hey, I have never defended Botha, but there are far worse in action.

Maybe WI should threaten to take their team off the field, or threaten to take the next plane home, or even refuse to play a scheduled test. This has all happened before.
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Post by WIFAN Tue 21 Dec 2010, 19:01

Unfortunately I think we have lost our appeal to the cricket world Taips. If we took our team off the field everyone would just shrug their shoulders and say "fair enough, it was going to be a carp match anyway".

So the only power left to us is to shake our fists angrily at the likes of Botha, Harbhajan and Ajmal. Small comfort.
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Post by taipan Tue 21 Dec 2010, 19:08

I hear you but Botha went through the same process as Shillingford. We didn't whine and make threats,

Everyone knows MM, Harbjahan and Ajmal chuck, but if you come from the Sub-Continent you are bullet proof.

And then they still whine about bias.
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Post by WIFAN Tue 21 Dec 2010, 19:15

taipan wrote:I hear you but Botha went through the same process as Shillingford. We didn't whine and make threats.

Hopefully we will do the same. At least some teams still follow the rules set by the governing body. We don't really have a leg to stand on either tbh, his chucking was quite blatant in the last test he played.
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Post by taipan Tue 21 Dec 2010, 19:22

Glad to see you accept that, so many don't
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Post by furriner Tue 21 Dec 2010, 20:09

Nothing to do with you wifan, but Laughing @ Taipan. You're defining bitterness in your dotage.
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Post by Zat Tue 21 Dec 2010, 21:15

Has Shillingford played every card available to him?

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Post by taipan Wed 22 Dec 2010, 05:38

furriner wrote:Nothing to do with you wifan, but Laughing @ Taipan. You're defining bitterness in your dotage.

If the truth be defined as bitterness, so be it.. Very Happy
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Post by Blackadder Wed 22 Dec 2010, 07:00

Zat wrote:Has Shillingford played every card available to him?

Unlike those from the Eastern India subcontinent, the Western Indians don't do go down that path. Wink

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Post by Hass Wed 22 Dec 2010, 13:09

As far as the BCCI is concerned the West Indies are still considered a white team.

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Post by taipan Wed 22 Dec 2010, 13:12

Hass wrote:As far as the BCCI is concerned the West Indies are still considered a white team.

Except for Bucknor?
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Post by Henry Wed 22 Dec 2010, 13:31

They consider Bucknor to be an Albino Nazi.
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Post by furriner Wed 22 Dec 2010, 13:43

taipan wrote:
furriner wrote:Nothing to do with you wifan, but Laughing @ Taipan. You're defining bitterness in your dotage.

If the truth be defined as bitterness, so be it.. Very Happy

The truth? You want the truth? The truth is that you come from a country that has in its recent past given the textbook definition of racism to the world - but we don't bring that up in every conversation about South Africa do we? The truth is that you come from a country fast becoming a byword for violent crime, but we do not refer to it in every second sentence when discussing South Africa do we? The truth - if one is to believe Gibbs - is that you team consisted mostly of debauched characters, but is that a focal point of conversation always? And the truth - if behavior over the years on this forum and others is any indicator of personal stability, well we can go into PMs and forum romances if needed.

But we don't do we? We don't bring this in almost every time South Africa is mentioned, or almost every time a South African gets discussed or the cricket team. These are all truths I have mentioned, only one does not bring it up like a knee jerk reaction.

I would be much more careful in critiquing people and countries if I were you.
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Post by taipan Wed 22 Dec 2010, 13:55

Jeez and you call me bitter.

Of course we will have to gloss over the institutionlised racism in India as we always do.

Remind me where you live again?

If you had bothered to read my post instead of guessing that it was about, you would realise that I am against chucking in any form. It is also true that chuckers from the sub-continent have got away with it for years. Or are you trying to deny that?
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Post by furriner Wed 22 Dec 2010, 15:08

You just don't get it do you?

In five years of foruming here and on C4 this is the first time that I have critiqued SA.

I have rarely seen an Indian forumer launch an unprovoked attack on you or yours. God knows your team's and your behavior has given people enough reason.

Whereas you seem to pontificate on India and the sub continent with boring regularity.

Ah look Wifan, we're the same Wifan, those damn sub continentals wifan...

Who's bitter?
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Post by doremi Wed 22 Dec 2010, 15:18

taipan is a troll, but better disguised than most. But a troll nonetheless.
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Post by The One Wed 22 Dec 2010, 20:53

doremi wrote:taipan is a troll, but better disguised than most

err, what?

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Post by kkf Thu 23 Dec 2010, 00:34

Yeah I can't really work up any outrage over this one. He throws it. Has always thrown it. I hope he is still effective after he sorts himself out. Has bee a good find since he got called up.

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Post by Basil Thu 23 Dec 2010, 00:39

furriner wrote:You just don't get it do you?

In five years of foruming here and on C4 this is the first time that I have critiqued SA.

I have rarely seen an Indian forumer launch an unprovoked attack on you or yours. God knows your team's and your behavior has given people enough reason.

Whereas you seem to pontificate on India and the sub continent with boring regularity.

Ah look Wifan, we're the same Wifan, those damn sub continentals wifan...

Who's bitter?

Get a grip will you?! Do you want chuckers to go unsanctioned?
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Post by Zat Thu 23 Dec 2010, 00:53

furriner wrote:In five years of foruming here and on C4 this is the first time that I have critiqued SA.
That's a pissweak effort furri. THe Jaaps give a wealth of material and for five years you've let it through to the keeper? Sheesh...

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