Re: Aus Federal Politics thread (II)

by Zat Mon 20 Jun 2011, 23:48

JGK wrote:Speaking of butts, on QandA tonight they had Josh Thomas (I think that was his name) who is a gay comedian. When they were talking about gay marriage, he made a joke along the lines of "I am sick of buying presents for everyone and notting getting any back . If you're gay, you are a giver"

Don't you mean he's a gay 'comedian'?

HIs main shtick seems to be being completely out of touch with anything that happened before about 2005. In other words, he's a typical 'me generation' representative.

by skully Tue 21 Jun 2011, 00:17

JGK wrote:Albanese is married to Carmel Tebbutt.

Thick as pig sh!t, both of them.

by Bradman Tue 21 Jun 2011, 00:57

Paul Keating wrote:In that infamous sky news interview where Abbott talks of the virtues of a carbon tax, he also admits the ALP have a mandate to do something on climate change.

And just to really understand the MM's mindset. He said last night that even if a plebiscite was to support a carbon tax he'd repeal it anyway. Along with the continuing dummy spit over the election it would seems Tony must have skipped the classes on democracy when he was attending university (I won't say studying because he obviously wasn't).

by embee Tue 21 Jun 2011, 01:04

He'd run the next election on his "direct action plan" or something else ...if he formed govt , he'd see it as a mandate to ignore the plebiscite

by Bradman Tue 21 Jun 2011, 01:11

embee wrote:He'd run the next election on his "direct action plan" or something else ...if he formed govt , he'd see it as a mandate to ignore the plebiscite

Hmmmnnn1 Direct Action! Well if he wanted to take direct action once elected he could stop the Woodside plant in WA according to the protesters in Broome on the weekend. The live exporters were also using the place to launch a jihad so he could be on a winner all round.

by G.Wood Tue 21 Jun 2011, 01:23

I always thought plebacide was when you attempted to wipe out the entire populations of western Sydney, Logan and Adelaide

by JGK Tue 21 Jun 2011, 04:09

Looks like Fielding isn't going to support Abbott's plebiscite.

by Bradman Tue 21 Jun 2011, 06:07

A bit hard to support a plebiscite on a yes/no about a policy that doesn't exist.

by Hass Tue 21 Jun 2011, 06:43

JGK wrote:And yet the Mad Monk still isn't the preferred PM.

The preferred PM figure is generally meaningless.

It is rare for the Opposition Leader to have a higher rating than the incumbent, even when the Opposition is leading the 2PP vote.

Keating was well ahead of Howard on preferred PM going into the 1996 election, even though Keating was widely loathed.

Even in NSW, Keneally still led O'Farrell in the preferred premier poll for a long time even though Labor itself was getting hammered in the polls. Eventually O'Farrell overtook Keneally on the preferred premier rating as well - it was a sign the government's position was beyond terminal.

There's still time for Gillard and co. to turn things around, but I'd see Abbott's standing in the preferred PM polls at the moment as a positive for the Libs.

by skully Tue 21 Jun 2011, 07:26

Nice analysis, Hass.

And settle down boys, we all knew the plebicite was just Abbott maintaining the rage and a stunt. Sheesh. Scared or sumpent? Rolling Eyes

by Zat Tue 21 Jun 2011, 22:34

Of course, if our elected lords and masters would actually stop the stunts and debate the issues, maybe some solutions will be found. Of course, if problems are solved, then that means they can't indulge in cheap posturing any more...

Qunts, the lot of them.

by embee Wed 22 Jun 2011, 02:28

Who wants to hear debate? ...all the media wants is a soundbite ,,,and the public dont want to listen to long boring technical discussions from politicians

The Hewson GST explanation was a classic example of this ...from a technical perspective his explanation was correct (and would be the answer required in an exam) ...from a media perpective it was a "gotcha" moment ...and the public just turned off when it took more than two seconds to answer the question

by skully Wed 22 Jun 2011, 02:42

Aye, A. A mate of mine (a former Uni colleague, who I see once a year for a Uni reunion with some other guys) absolutely loves watching parliamentary debate on A-PAC. I said "you farken what???" Shocked

by Bradman Wed 22 Jun 2011, 02:48

embee wrote:Who wants to hear debate? ...all the media wants is a soundbite ,,,and the public dont want to listen to long boring technical discussions from politicians

The Hewson GST explanation was a classic example of this ...from a technical perspective his explanation was correct (and would be the answer required in an exam) ...from a media perpective it was a "gotcha" moment ...and the public just turned off when it took more than two seconds to answer the question

Is it a case of what came first, the chicken or the egg.

Is the public's perceived lack of interest in real debate the reason for media soundbites and a 24 hour news cycle or is it the result of it? . I tend to believe, or at least fervantly hope, it's the latter. It could be a case where 'post hoc ' actually applies

by embee Wed 22 Jun 2011, 03:47

TV News runs with the "if it bleeds ...it leads" philosophy

If there arent juicy pictures or a quick catchy soundbite then things just dont get shown ...the public just gets dumbed into thinking thats all that happened

by Mick Sawyer Wed 22 Jun 2011, 04:47

embee wrote:TV News runs with the "if it bleeds ...it leads" philosophy

If there arent juicy pictures or a quick catchy soundbite then things just dont get shown ...the public just gets dumbed into thinking thats all that happened

I attended a session for parents at my son's school last night. The aim was to educate parents in how they may assist with the education process. A point made clearly was to talk to the kids about current affairs, real current affairs discussion. It was suggested that listening to FM radio for 10 minutes on the way to school wasn't enough.

by JGK Wed 22 Jun 2011, 05:00

My son listens to the Big Sports Breakfast on Skysportsradio for 10 minutes on the way to work.

Outstanding parenting if I may say so myself.

by embee Wed 22 Jun 2011, 05:04

Does he understand that Slater is a complete farqwit?

by Mick Sawyer Wed 22 Jun 2011, 05:05

JGK wrote:My son listens to the Big Sports Breakfast on Skysportsradio for 10 minutes on the way to work.

Outstanding parenting if I may say so myself.

.......... and he watches Top Gear and I'm certain you'd sit down on a Sunday morning to watch Business Sunday and a recording of Q & A. A well rounded young man in the making.

by bodyline Wed 22 Jun 2011, 05:19

Mick Sawyer wrote:
embee wrote:TV News runs with the "if it bleeds ...it leads" philosophy

If there arent juicy pictures or a quick catchy soundbite then things just dont get shown ...the public just gets dumbed into thinking thats all that happened

I attended a session for parents at my son's school last night. The aim was to educate parents in how they may assist with the education process. A point made clearly was to talk to the kids about current affairs, real current affairs discussion. It was suggested that listening to FM radio for 10 minutes on the way to school wasn't enough.

Did they then hit you up for a donation? I hear they are looking for a new oval. Smile

by JGK Wed 22 Jun 2011, 05:25

embee wrote:Does he understand that Slater is a complete farqwit?

Natch - I have already pointed out that Slater supports Manly.

by Mick Sawyer Wed 22 Jun 2011, 05:59

Did they then hit you up for a donation?

They've given up. I have a well rehearsed poverty plea. Threaten to sleep rough on the steps facing Gregory terrace.

by Bradman Wed 22 Jun 2011, 07:57

bodyline wrote:
Mick Sawyer wrote:
embee wrote:TV News runs with the "if it bleeds ...it leads" philosophy

If there arent juicy pictures or a quick catchy soundbite then things just dont get shown ...the public just gets dumbed into thinking thats all that happened

I attended a session for parents at my son's school last night. The aim was to educate parents in how they may assist with the education process. A point made clearly was to talk to the kids about current affairs, real current affairs discussion. It was suggested that listening to FM radio for 10 minutes on the way to school wasn't enough.

Did they then hit you up for a donation? I hear they are looking for a new oval.

It was a pretty ordinary oval to start with. No wonder they didn't jack up and took the money instead.

by skully Wed 22 Jun 2011, 09:41

I see the pinkos are going all out for families. Due to new Fed Govt regulations requiring higher carer to kiddy ratios and better trained (i.e. higher qualifications) carers at Child Centres, costs from July 1 will rise by between $5 to $10 per week per child. Minister Kate Ellis is outraged saying her figures indicate the new requirements will only add $1.75 per child to costs.

And the pinkos are looking to reduce the child care rebate.

Hmm, I wonder if these are the same mathematics the pinkos are using to justify a carbon tax?

by bodyline Thu 23 Jun 2011, 03:39

skully wrote:I see the pinkos are going all out for families. Due to new Fed Govt regulations requiring higher carer to kiddy ratios and better trained (i.e. higher qualifications) carers at Child Centres, costs from July 1 will rise by between $5 to $10 per week per child. Minister Kate Ellis is outraged saying her figures indicate the new requirements will only add $1.75 per child to costs.

And the pinkos are looking to reduce the child care rebate.

Hmm, I wonder if these are the same mathematics the pinkos are using to justify a carbon tax?

Why do you ask rhetorical questions?

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