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Post by Bradman Fri 05 Aug 2011, 06:19

horace wrote:
skully wrote:Paying for sh!t that achieves nothing or expends a large amount of money for little beneficial return.

hmmn...if that is the measure...lets abolish defence, baby bonus, family tax benefit...complete and utter waste...both the programs you slander have generated worthwhile goods plus they pump primed the economy at a crucial time...the ALP saved the Oz economy....not that I think Oz deserves to do well - given our vocation as a nation seems to be the rich mean spirited white hacienda with 5 brms and pool trash of Asia....as individuals we squander on yet more tellies that will ultimately find their way into landfill

Australia needs a sharpish contraction contractions

We'll get a lot if the MM has his way and introduces more child bearing friendly policies and abolishes abortions and condoms.
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Post by skully Fri 05 Aug 2011, 06:23

I think I just heard a blood vessel pop in horrie's head. Cool
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Post by horace Fri 05 Aug 2011, 06:25

skully wrote:I think I just heard a blood vessel pop in horrie's head. Cool

it went ping like a chuckers straightening elbow groucho
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Post by embee Fri 05 Aug 2011, 06:29

Bradman wrote:Any mining tax reforms alone would modernise a system that hasn't changed much since Federation and is in desperate need of a facelift. But no! A bunch of zillionaires, one who's in jail, one the judge said should be in jail, one waiting for the CMC to fall on him, one who escaped rotting in a prison by having his body rot in a West African jungle and one who stepped down so as to save his fortune when the authorities finally catch him up and his company's share price plummets mount the most ludicrous and deceitful campaign in the country's history.

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The mining industry (and the Oz economy) may benefit from royalty/mining tax reform ...however the way that it has been handled in this case is farquing woeful

Rudd and Swan announce (with Zero consultation) the RSPT which is a complete joke (one of 3 out of 100+ Henry recommendations) ...Rudd gets knifed and Swan gets left out of the re-jigging consultation where the finance gurus from Rio , BHP and X Strata show up the amateur hour that was Treasury modelling for the tax ...they then allow the big 3 to tell them what the tax should be and they come up a solution that will stop any small players from becoming big players by taxing the living crap out of them if they look like becoming successful

They also didnt see the farquen obvious loophole that if a state govt increases their Royalties then the Fed govt refunds that out of MRRT to the miners....and now want to whinge because Barnett increased the Royalties on Iron Ore ...

It's typical ALP ....a good idea ...hurriedly announced ...badly implemented ...full of holes ...and wont do the job its supposed to do
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Post by skully Fri 05 Aug 2011, 09:27

For BD to have a giggle at. Ponts has been stamping his widdle feet.
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Post by Big Dog Fri 05 Aug 2011, 09:28

Zat wrote:So, have any of those who were saying the cold snap a couple of weeks back was proof there's no climate change said anything about the record warm winter days in much of SE Aus in the past week? Just curious.

Can't say i've noticed any difference down here.
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Post by Big Dog Fri 05 Aug 2011, 09:36

skully wrote:Oh dear, now the pinkos are jumping on the "Murdoch's a bias crim" bulltwang. PMSL.

It all comes under the 'Pinko's in denial' folder.

Rule #1
When challenged, demand the figures (in the hope that, despite numerous quotes & statistics, the person making the claim has'nt bookmarked it)
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Post by Paul Keating Fri 05 Aug 2011, 09:47

it is because you don't have it

it is fine if you hate the ALP

it is fine if you hate Gillard

What is not fine is if you make up numbers that are just plain wrong.

It's like if I said 30 000 000 civillians died in the Iraq War. It is a figure so absurd it is unbelievable. Just like your figures with the wastage.
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Post by Paul Keating Fri 05 Aug 2011, 09:48

and the biggest lie is your claim that you have provided "numerous quotes & statistics"

not once BD

not once have you provided anything to back up your claims
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Post by Big Dog Fri 05 Aug 2011, 09:51

Paul Keating wrote:and the biggest lie is your claim that you have provided "numerous quotes & statistics"

not once BD

not once have you provided anything to back up your claims

Yeah..........i did'nt bookmark it.
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Post by Paul Keating Fri 05 Aug 2011, 09:53

absolute waste of time debating with you people who make up rubbish

reminds me of some shock jocks whose only listeners are those who eat out of colostomy bags.

just keep making up numbers to suit your argument

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Post by Big Dog Fri 05 Aug 2011, 09:56

Here you go QMY....chew on this for a while....then shut TF up.

http://laborwaste.com.au/accountability/pink-batts-waste-buck-stops-with-pm/
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Post by Paul Keating Fri 05 Aug 2011, 09:57

And that is $50 billion?
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Post by Paul Keating Fri 05 Aug 2011, 09:58

Where is the other $49billion in wastage?
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Post by Big Dog Fri 05 Aug 2011, 10:01

Paul Keating wrote:Where is the other $49billion in wastage?

As i said...Pinko's in denial.
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Post by Paul Keating Fri 05 Aug 2011, 10:05

Once again you can't back up your claims. So maybe you should STFU as you kindly suggest I do.

I might as well say that foreign debt under Howard grew by 1500%. Wouldn't surprise me if it did.
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Post by skully Fri 05 Aug 2011, 11:11

Lordy, Ponts has gone mad. Shocked

Market crash put you in a sh!t mood, ol' c0ck, or Hayne's show boat match-losing performance last weekend still stuck in your craw?
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Post by Big Dog Sat 06 Aug 2011, 08:21

Paul Keating wrote:Once again you can't back up your claims. So maybe you should STFU as you kindly suggest I do.

I might as well say that foreign debt under Howard grew by 1500%. Wouldn't surprise me if it did.

As you seem obsessed with statistics, here's a few more.
Labor Waste

No...they don't add up to $50 Bill but thats not the real point is it. The point is that this Government has an appalling record of wasting taxpayers money. Pink Batts is just one of many poorly thought out, badly implemented & incompetently managed schemes. Perhaps 50$b is the total amount of all their incompetence. I don't know & i don't care about the fine print. I'm just one of many schmucks who are having to pay through the nose because of their arrogant stupidity.
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Post by Zat Sat 06 Aug 2011, 14:15

To all the doom merchants who think Australia's economically ******, here's a piece of Gittins from today's SMH.

http://www.smh.com.au/business/so-are-we-talking-ourselves-into-a-recession-20110805-1ifif.html

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Post by JGK Sun 07 Aug 2011, 01:14

The usual good common sense stuff from Gittins.

However, at the moment, the Mad Monk's "sky is falling" routine seems to be winning given that he's ably supported by the shock jocks and News Limited.


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Post by JGK Sun 07 Aug 2011, 09:06

Just some of the benefits on the NBN...

http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/broadband-a-balancing-act-20110806-1igfh.html

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Post by JGK Sun 07 Aug 2011, 09:08

And just on the NBN, apparently quite a few people are not even giving permission for their property to be linked to the NBN - for free. What a bunch of morons. Whenever they go to sell their property from now on, one of the first things a buyer will ask if whether it is NBN-ready.

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Post by Zat Sun 07 Aug 2011, 12:02

"But, but, but, but, but they'll need to dig up my prized hydrangeas to replace the telstra phone conduit that's just about to fall apart, and they're going to charge me nothing to do it..."

Luddites. They should all be given a cave to move in to.

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Post by Zat Sun 07 Aug 2011, 12:04

JGK wrote:Just some of the benefits on the NBN...

http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/broadband-a-balancing-act-20110806-1igfh.html
Why would old People want the NBN? They should forget about broadband and go back to their dog food diets...

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Post by skully Sun 07 Aug 2011, 14:12

Been watching the Hawke series on Foxy's History Channel recently (yeah, yeah, I missed it the first time it was on). Jeeezus, does it paint Keating as a giant quntish d!ckhead or what? A qunt of a human being that basically thought Australia was the arse-end of the world. Good show.
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