Troll jailed for trolling

PeterCS wrote:I'm not sure it can be twisted that far.

"Honour" killing is a travesty of any civil society conception of honour, for example - and a contradiction in terms by anything but headtwistedly fundamentalist religious-moral principles.

I think you missed my point slightly. I was trying to say that in countries far more oppressed than our own, the definition you laid out could easily be used to punish the most minor of transgressions against the state, so it becomes essential as to who is deciding what constitutes ""Honour" in the sense of a reasonable degree of respect and standing, and absence of unjustified contempt and hatred, in the community, and society at large."

So, you don't send him to jail - what do you do then?

Basil wrote:So, you don't send him to jail - what do you do then?

Personally? If I were one of the "victims"?

I'd make the memorial page private, block him on facebook and leave the little qunt to his sad, lonely existence.

PeterCS wrote:

vilkrang wrote:

PeterCS wrote:This lot says to me that the guy should be taken out of society, probably for a considerable time.

Whether jail is a way of dealing with Asperger's, I agree, quite possibly not. But you can't honestly, reasonably, let this go on and on and on, surely?

He had also posted offensive messages about Lauren Drew, 14, of Gloucestershire, who was found dead after suffering a suspected epileptic seizure, Hayley Bates, 16, of Staffordshire, who died in a car crash, and Jordan Cooper, 14, who was stabbed to death in Northumberland.

On Mother's Day he posted a message on an online memorial page to Lauren reading: "Help me mummy, it's hot in hell".

Duffy also produced an image of Hayley with crosses on her eyes and red marks on her face. He also wrote explicit messages to Hayley's sister Heather.

The family of stabbing victim Jordan had also seen abusive messages directed at the youngster on an online memorial and a YouTube video defacing an image of the teenager.

I'm playing devils advocate a bit here Petey because I do think the guy is a tosser and personally no, I wouldn't want to see this sort of behaviour continuing.

It just seems quite hard to legislate against when it's impossible to quantify the scale of such an offence. It also goes completely against my views on free speech.

No, I got that.

But free speech is never helpfully treated as an absolute. It is generally contingent on some concept of shared decency. Otherwise you have incitement to murder, incitement to violence, incitement to hatred, defamation, malicious gossip, etc. etc. all blessed by civil society.

Fair point, but I didn't see any incitement to murder etc. in his actions.

I'm a little bit fed up with defending this guy. He's an epic prick. But not jail ffs.

Aye, inform Facebook and remain incredibly sad that my loved one decided to be so selfish.

Brass Monkey wrote:Aye, inform Facebook and remain incredibly sad that my loved one decided to be so selfish.

Exactly.

If someone that close to me had died the last thing I would give a sh!t about would be some twat on the internet. It's the internet for f**ks sake.

Psychiatric help seems more apt for this guy seeing as he has form for this type of behaviour.

Politicians seemingly get away with real criminal acts every day, and there hardly ever seems to be any punishment for them, except in the gay dungeons of soho.

Be a pr!ck online and get sent to prison? Must be time for us all to do a Ronnie Biggs and leave for Brazil before they start coming for us then

I have my insanity plea already lined up, with you guys as witnesses.

krikri wrote:Psychiatric help seems more apt for this guy seeing as he has form for this type of behaviour.

Politicians seemingly get away with real criminal acts every day, and there hardly ever seems to be any punishment for them, except in the gay dungeons of soho.

Be a pr!ck online and get sent to prison? Must be time for us all to do a Ronnie Biggs and leave for Brazil before they start coming for us then

Bang on the nose krikri. Especially the Biggsing off we should be doing. I reckon I'd have had six months at least by now.

Longest web address ever.

I don't agree with what this guy did at all. I've only found out about this through here.

But unless you are inciting someone to commit a crime there should be no punishment for saying anything.

What happens if you get offended? Nothing at all. Nothing changes. You could, just maybe, not get offended at it. It's not hard to ignore something that a person you've never known says. I actually get quite annoyed by people being childishly sensitive about these kinds of things - it's as pathetic as the person making the comments.

I can't believe there are actually people who thought this should be punishable by jail time. Even on here.

You should be put in jail for thinking he should not be put in jail. For life. No parole. Fire the key into the sun. And jail your girlfriend, she must be evil to date you. And jail your parents, they made you this evil.

And don't forget my grandparents. Their graves should be desecrated.

When you can be jailed for something you say you basically live in a police state. But it seems some people really do want the thought police out on patrol.

Clamson wrote:When you can be jailed for something you say you basically live in a police state. But it seems some people really do want the thought police out on patrol.

It's stalking end of. The punishment was appropriate in my opinion. The "police state" comment is too silly for words.

Stalking? Are you f**king serious?

What would you call it?

Someone being a dick on the internet, and who could easily have been ignored, like the hundreds of thousands of other dicks on the internet.

Block him from facebook and make the group for friends only and it's sorted. If he was stalking he would have found their address and kept on harassing them, but seeing as he wasn't a stalker that wouldn't have happened. He was just a dick on the internet (again, of which there are thousands).

When you think about it "For F*ck's Sake" (FFS) is a really strange collection of words. FFS. Hahahahahhahahahaah.

Standard euphemism for a blasphemy, returned into a (now conveniently concealed) blasphemy, for motor-affective emphasis.

Chr*st's > Pete's > f**k's

The latter has the added advantage (for emotional release) of both alliteration and twofold consonance.