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Post by MoH Thu 22 May 2014, 22:43

https://twitter.com/MichaelVaughan/status/469179926584000512

And that idiot Sturat has got involved as well.

Really sorry if this is NTR but I did check the English Domestic Season thread and the other thread titles and couldn't see anything.

I appreciate you can't tell much from from a grainy front-on photo and even from the actual footage it's impossible tell whether his arm stays at the same angle all the way through the action or not. I suspect I'm going easy on Ajmal here just because I think Vorn's a hypertwat so I will say this: I would feel very uneasy if an England player were bowling with an action like that. Although, I may not have to wait that long to feel uneasy. I hear Ajmal is teaching Moeen Ali to 'bowl' a doosra.

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Post by lardbucket Thu 22 May 2014, 23:33

Ajmal was, is, and always will be a blatant chucker; but he's not alone. Shillingford, Botha, and Kane Richardson from NZ are just as bad. I'm sure I've blotted a few out of my memory.

Sadly this battle was lost over 15 years go - seems you can chuck as much as you like now.


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Post by taipan Fri 23 May 2014, 02:58

The saddest part is that Vaughan has only picked up on this now.
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Post by Guest Fri 23 May 2014, 07:13

lardbucket wrote:Ajmal was, is, and always will be a blatant chucker; but he's not alone. Shillingford, Botha, and Kane Richardson from NZ are just as bad. I'm sure I've blotted a few out of my memory.

Sadly this battle was lost over 15 years go - seems you can chuck as much as you like now.

Aye, Muralis legacy to the game.

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Post by Brass Monkey Fri 23 May 2014, 07:15

Ojha, Eranga, Senanayake... the list goes on.
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Post by Brass Monkey Fri 23 May 2014, 07:17

Golly. He's caused a furore. Bet he loves that, because he's a wankstain. Saying that, he's right. Chucktastic.
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Post by taipan Fri 23 May 2014, 07:25

Brass Monkey wrote:Ojha, Eranga, Senanayake... the list goes on.

Samuels.
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Post by horace Fri 23 May 2014, 07:32

Bung Lee, Spud Tait
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Post by beamer Fri 23 May 2014, 07:59

And we can't even find a semi-reasonable chucker, fast or slow...

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Post by JGK Fri 23 May 2014, 08:07

Some reason I keep seeing the word "vagina" in the heading for this thread.

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Post by skully Fri 23 May 2014, 08:41

Do they call you Viagra at work?  Wink 
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Post by PeterCS Fri 23 May 2014, 11:41

They're a match made in heaven.


Mick has all the makings of a troll these days: beavis-headed, malicious streak, attention-seeking, nothing better to do, wannabe trendingsetter, "scourge".

And Ajmal .... well. Ripe for scourging.
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Post by Basil Fri 23 May 2014, 22:16

Given that most of Vaughany's outpourings have been with the sole purpose of benefiting clients of his management company - anything he has to say on any subject connected with cricket needs to be taken with a ton and a half of salt.

So, he posts a photo of Ajmal in his delivery stride which to appears to show him chucking the ball. Well, no shit Sherlock! How long have rumours about Ajmal's action been circulating? And MPV is only stirred into action now? Blimey - show me a bandwagon without the syrup wearer on it please!
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Post by JGK Tue 09 Sep 2014, 07:33

Ajmal suspended!

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Post by embee Tue 09 Sep 2014, 07:35

Pakistan spinner ruled out of Australia's tour

Pakistan off-spinner Saeed Ajmal has been banned from bowling with immediate effect by the International Cricket Council after he was found to have an illegal bowling action, ruling him out for Australia's tour of the UAE next month.

The 37-year-old was scrutinised by ICC officials at Cricket Australia's hi-tech National Cricket Centre in Brisbane a fortnight ago after he was reported during Pakistan's Test series against Sri Lanka last month.

In a statement released on Tuesday, the ICC said the testing determined Ajmal's action was illegal.

"The International Cricket Council today confirmed that an independent analysis has found the bowling action of Pakistan’s off-spinner Saeed Ajmal to be illegal and, as such, the player has been suspended from bowling in international cricket with immediate effect.

"The analysis revealed that all his deliveries exceeded the 15 degrees level of tolerance permitted under the regulations.

"Saeed, who was reported after the first Test match against Sri Lanka in Galle last month, can apply a re-assessment after he has modified his bowling action in accordance with clause 2.4 of the Regulations for the Review of Bowlers Reported with Suspected Illegal Bowling Actions.

"The analysis was performed on 25 August by the ICC’s accredited team of Human Movement Specialists using the National Cricket Centre in Brisbane."

The ban means Ajmal has all but been ruled out of the upcoming matches against Australia in the United Arab Emirates.

Ajmal will now be required to undergo remedial work on his action and pass the ICC's testing if he is to be cleared to return to action.

Ajmal, currently ranked the No.1 bowler in the world for ODIs, and fourth in T20s, has taken 178 wickets in 35 Tests, 183 wickets in 111 ODIs and 85 wickets in 63 T20 internationals. He is currently rated ninth by the ICC in the Test bowler rankings.

Ajmal is the third off-spinner since July to be banned for an illegal action after Sri Lanka's Sachithra Senanayake and New Zealand's Kane Williamson were also suspended after undergoing official testing.

Zimbabwe allrounder Prosper Utseya and Bangladesh off-spinner Sohag Gazi are required to undergo testing soon after both were reported for a suspected illegal action last month.

Ajmal was previously reported for a suspected illegal bowling action in 2009, but was later cleared after tests determined that his doosra – a ball which turns the other way to a normal off-spinner – was bowled with an arm bent within the legal limit.

But the umpires who reported Ajmal's action against Sri Lanka raised concerns over several of his variations, including some bowled from over the wicket.

Senanayake underwent remedial work last month at the University of Western Australia – which is no longer an ICC accredited lab – but awaits a report to get clearance.

Ajmal's suspension is a massive blow for Pakistan ahead of series against Australia and New Zealand in the UAE this year and the 2015 ICC Cricket World Cup.

The Australians have long been wary of Ajmal, with Shane Watson telling cricket.com.au ahead of the World T20 earlier this year that Ajmal was "certainly the best spinner in the world by quite a way at the moment and has been for the past couple of years".


"He's very hard to pick and read now. He's certainly able to disguise his doosra very well, better than anyone in the world."

When Ajmal was first reported for a suspect action in 2009, he accused Watson of prompting the report.

"They told me in the first game some of my doosras had a little elbow bend," Ajmal said after being reported following two ODIs against Australia in Dubai.

"I was very surprised. My first-class debut was in 1996 and this has not happened before. I think Watson was talking with the umpires about this. He was speaking with them and when the match finished the umpires said there is a problem."

He was caught in a throwing controversy in May when the Pakistan Cricket Board demanded an apology from England pace bowler Stuart Broad after he questioned the legality of Ajmal's action on Twitter.

Ajmal had been bowling for English county Worcestershire when he took 13 wickets in a victory against Essex, including a career-best 7-19 in the second innings.

This prompted former England captain Michael Vaughan to ignite the row by posting on Twitter a still photograph of Ajmal bowling during the match. He added the caption: "You are allowed 15 degrees of flex in your delivery swing.... #justsaying."

Broad replied by commenting: "This has to be a fake photo?!". He then commented: "Bowlers can bowl very differently in a lab while being tested compared to needing wickets in the middle."

Ajmal played a starring role at the Lord's bicentenary match, taking four wickets for five runs in a devastating 15-ball spell, which prompted captain Sachin Tendulkar to remove him from the attack in order to prolong the exhibition match.


The crackdown comes just months after the ICC's Cricket Committee recommended an increased focus on bowlers with questionable actions.

"There’s enough bowlers with suspect actions that should be scrutinised that probably haven’t been," ICC’s general manager of cricket Geoff Allardice said after the committee's most recent meeting in Melbourne in June.

"The cricket committee was of the view that there are some bowlers operating with suspect actions that should be scrutinised a bit more closely."

The ICC's Cricket Committee is a 17-person panel chaired by former India spinner Anil Kumble.

The committee, which meets to discuss and formulate recommendations on cricket-playing matters, also includes Australia coach Darren Lehmann, Sri Lanka batsman Kumar Sangakkarra and former Test captains Mark Taylor and Andrew Strauss.

Suspect actions in the news since June

3 June: Sri Lanka off-spinner Sachithra Senanayake is reported for a suspected illegal bowling action and ordered to undergo testing within 21 days.

22 June: New Zealand off-spinner Kane Williamson is reported for a suspected illegal bowling action and ordered to undergo testing within 21 days.

28 June: The ICC Cricket Committee meets in Melbourne and recommends an increased focus on bowlers with questionable actions.

12 July: Senanayake is banned from bowling by the ICC after undergoing official testing in Cardiff.

23 July: Williamson is banned from bowling by the ICC after undergoing official testing in Cardiff.

11 August: Pakistan off-spinner Saeed Ajmal is reported for a suspected illegal bowling action and ordered to undergo testing within 21 days.

15 August: The ICC confirms three newly accredited testing centres will be unveiled in the coming months.

22 August: Zimbabwe off-spinner Prosper Utseya is reported for a suspected illegal bowling action and ordered to undergo testing within 21 days.

25 August: Bangladesh off-spinner Sohag Gazi is reported for a suspected illegal bowling action and ordered to undergo testing within 21 days.

25 August: Ajmal begins official testing at Cricket Australia's National Cricket Centre in Brisbane.
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Post by Blackadder Tue 09 Sep 2014, 07:35

Ajmal suspended from bowling.

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Post by lardbucket Tue 09 Sep 2014, 07:38

He's 37?

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Post by JGK Tue 09 Sep 2014, 07:39

Blackadder wrote:Ajmal suspended from bowling.

Can you be suspended from something you weren't doing in the first place?

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Post by embee Tue 09 Sep 2014, 07:46

just logged onto pakpassion ...bit disappointed it hasnt melted at the news
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Post by taipan Tue 09 Sep 2014, 07:58

So has Perth been getting it wrong all these years?
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Post by Merlin Tue 09 Sep 2014, 08:00

Looks like.

Great news for cricket - irrespective of whether Vawn picked up on it late or early - the result is brilliant.

SACK PERTH.

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Post by LeFromage Tue 09 Sep 2014, 08:09

"all his deliveries exceeded the 15 degrees"

Pretty damning.

Another one in the cricket record books whose wickets should have an asterisk next to them.
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Post by taipan Tue 09 Sep 2014, 08:21

Didn't Perth also clear MM?
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Post by Big Dog Tue 09 Sep 2014, 08:39

taipan wrote:So has Perth been getting it wrong all these years?

Absolutely. The day they cleared MuMu they lost all credibility.
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Post by WideWally Tue 09 Sep 2014, 08:41

Speaking of degrees & the University of Western Australia .........

If they can't accurately measure this, should any degree from this establishment have a big asterisk beside it?


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