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Post by Henry Thu 10 Nov 2011, 12:31

There's just something in their psyche that stops them from getting to the next level.

They've 'potentially' been the best team in the World since oh.....1997? Bullies of poorer teams, but collapse like tipsy schoolgirls when up against players 'their own size' so to speak.
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Post by Brass Monkey Thu 10 Nov 2011, 12:41

They've pulled off some really good performances in India and Aus over the past couple of years, plus they were the only team to be incontrovertibly better than England at home since 2001.

So it's hardly like they're the same as they were 10 years ago where they were clearly the 2nd best team in the world, but fell over against the ultimate powerhouse of Australia.

Hence they never really potentially the best team in the world since '97.

I reckon you're doing them a little disservice, but as I say they've heavily underperformed recently and it's entirely their own fault, the scheduling (first Test in over 300 days) is a joke and they look like they're paying for it now.
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Post by Allan D Thu 10 Nov 2011, 12:42

Best innings bowling by an opening bat in Tests - 7-34 by Trevor Bailey at Sabina Park in March 1954. The Australian record is held by Watson with 6-33 against the Paksters at Headingley last year.
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Post by Henry Thu 10 Nov 2011, 12:43

Why didn't Twatto review that?
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Post by taipan Thu 10 Nov 2011, 12:43

As i have feared for the past 3 months, the lack of cricket has come home to roost.

Can write this one off, well done Aus.

Until we get a decent cricket board comprised of ex-cricketers. not politicians who are only there to line their pockets, this will not improve.
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Post by Henry Thu 10 Nov 2011, 12:49

taipan wrote:As i have feared for the past 3 months, the lack of cricket has come home to roost.

Can write this one off, well done Aus.

Until we get a decent cricket board comprised of ex-cricketers. not politicians who are only there to line their pockets, this will not improve.

When will that ever happen? Has South African cricket EVER been competently run?

Let's be honest- having very good ex cricketers running the show would require an administration that is likely to be 99% white.

Wont happen. Probably ever.

Cricket and Rugby in South Africa will forever be swimming against the tide.
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Post by taipan Thu 10 Nov 2011, 12:54

Henry wrote:
taipan wrote:As i have feared for the past 3 months, the lack of cricket has come home to roost.

Can write this one off, well done Aus.

Until we get a decent cricket board comprised of ex-cricketers. not politicians who are only there to line their pockets, this will not improve.

When will that ever happen? Has South African cricket EVER been competently run?

Let's be honest- having very good ex cricketers running the show would require an administration that is likely to be 99% white.

Wont happen. Probably ever.

Back in the Ali Bacher days it was, but agree it's unlikely now. This present mob can't even get sponsorships because they stink so much.

Its frustrating as a fan as it would take very little to fix.

Its amazing what we hac=ve achieved given the leadership.
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Post by Henry Thu 10 Nov 2011, 12:59

I think Smith needs to resign from the test captaincy after this series. He's taken the team as far as he can and it's better for everyone if he just concentrates on his batting.

This needs to become AB de Villiers' team now. He's clearly the next captain in waiting.
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Post by Henry Thu 10 Nov 2011, 13:04

Crazy stuff. 14 wickets in the day already and we haven't even reached tea.

Clarke's innings is looking sensational. Even more so considering it was Clarke that played it.

Has the World gone completely mad?
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Post by Brass Monkey Thu 10 Nov 2011, 13:10

I think it must have... Clarke getting tough runs... Watto picking up sticks like he was in a forest... whatever next? I wonder if Megan Fox will now accept my witty advances over mail.... I reckon I'll give it a go.
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Post by taipan Thu 10 Nov 2011, 13:12

Match could be over in 3 days. Shows the stupdity of starting on Wednesday.
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Post by embee Thu 10 Nov 2011, 13:16

Why didnt Marsh bat at 3?

Is he injured?
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Post by JGK Thu 10 Nov 2011, 13:17

Fark it - advantage back to Saffies.


I was already to do my JGK special - Aust were going to set Saf 350 to win and I was going to make a fortune backing the Safs. Now we'll be lucky to set them 250.


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Post by Henry Thu 10 Nov 2011, 13:18

JGK wrote:Fark it - advantage back to Saffies.


I was already to do my JGK special - Aust were going to set Saf 350 to win and I was going to make a fortune backing the Safs. Now we'll be lucky to set them 250.


Don't even try. Aus are still well in front here.
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Post by JGK Thu 10 Nov 2011, 13:19

And seriously - Ian Gould. Worst. Test. Ever.

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Post by JGK Thu 10 Nov 2011, 13:21

And in the context of the match, Clarke's innings is beginning to look like one of the all time great Test knocks.

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Post by Henry Thu 10 Nov 2011, 13:22

JGK wrote:And seriously - Ian Gould. Worst. Test. Ever.

A shame for him as he's been one of the best umps around for a couple of years now.
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Post by JKLever Thu 10 Nov 2011, 13:23

Blimey.

Why does Watson continue to look useful against anyone but us? Turns into a jibbering wreck in the Ashes. Even does will against us in the ODI's!
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Post by JKLever Thu 10 Nov 2011, 13:23

Henry wrote:
JGK wrote:And seriously - Ian Gould. Worst. Test. Ever.

A shame for him as he's been one of the best umps around for a couple of years now.

Really? I think he's one of the weaker English umps tbh.
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Post by taipan Thu 10 Nov 2011, 13:25

JGK wrote:Fark it - advantage back to Saffies.


I was already to do my JGK special - Aust were going to set Saf 350 to win and I was going to make a fortune backing the Safs. Now we'll be lucky to set them 250.


Worst woof.

EVER
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Post by JGK Thu 10 Nov 2011, 13:28

My team is 3/13. Hardly woofing.

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Post by Brass Monkey Thu 10 Nov 2011, 13:31

Trev, here's the stats since 01/01/2000:

TeamPW%
Australia1328665.15
South Africa1215847.93
England1517046.35
Sri Lanka1114540.54
India1265039.68
Pakistan1013635.64
New Zealand892528.08
West Indies1222016.39
Zimbabwe47612.76
Bangladesh7134.2

Make of them what you will. Probably supports your point more than mine, depending on how you look at them.
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Post by Henry Thu 10 Nov 2011, 13:34

Brass Monkey wrote:Trev, here's the stats since 01/01/2000:

TeamPW%
Australia1328665.15
South Africa1215847.93
England1517046.35
Sri Lanka1114540.54
India1265039.68
Pakistan1013635.64
New Zealand892528.08
West Indies1222016.39
Zimbabwe47612.76
Bangladesh7134.2

Make of them what you will. Probably supports your point more than mine, depending on how you look at them.

Well, from 2000-2008 South Africa were clearly the second best team in the World after Australia.

They've fluffed their lines badly though since having the chance to be number 1 after Aus lost Warne and Mcgrath.
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Post by JGK Thu 10 Nov 2011, 13:34

Make that 4/13 as Hussey goes first ball.


Aust will be lucky to get to 26 here.

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Post by Henry Thu 10 Nov 2011, 13:36

Marsh is having back spasms. For a specialist batsman, his injury record is more like that of a fast bowler's.
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