England v West Indies, 2nd Test, Trent Bridge, 25-29 May, 2012

beamer wrote:Jack Crapp was later an umpire wasn't he, so probably at least on occasions people would have thought he lived up to his name...

Although he was thought good enough to umpire in 4 Tests in 1964-5 including 2 Ashes Tests at Lord's and The Oval in 1964. He thus belongs to a very small group who have both played in and umpired a Test Match.

G Hick played for Queensland

Cameron White is tipped to move to Western Australia

Brass Monkey wrote:"I'm very happy to be recalled for the Test squad for the series in England," Best said. "I've been waiting for my opportunity to represent the West Indies again and this is another opportunity to wear the Baggy Maroon."

Sweet... one of my favourite quotes.

Baggy Maroon sounds like a 70s funk band.

I thought it was describing horace

oh hang on that's a baggy moron

Ballbaggy moron.

Allan D wrote:

beamer wrote:Jack Crapp was later an umpire wasn't he, so probably at least on occasions people would have thought he lived up to his name...

Although he was thought good enough to umpire in 4 Tests in 1964-5 including 2 Ashes Tests at Lord's and The Oval in 1964. He thus belongs to a very small group who have both played in and umpired a Test Match.

Is the group that small. I can think of John Hampshire and Peter Willey off the top of my head.

Mark Benson

How far is Reiffel from getting a gig?

Venkat

James Lillywhite was the first, starting with the New Year Test of 1882 at the MCG umpiring some of his former teammates. Also the first to umpire overseas although obviously not neutral. It was thought, rather like school matches, that if there was an umpire from either side the biases would be evened up.

Are we allowed to mention Arthur ***** here?

He was an umpire FFS

Allan D wrote:James Lillywhite was the first

What about Alan Hill?

I didn't remember or spell that right ... Allen Hill.

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lardbucket wrote:

Allan D wrote:James Lillywhite was the first

What about Alan Hill?

Didn't umpire until the Lord's Test of 1890. Tom Garrett at the MCG in March 1885 and William Gunn at the SCG in March 1887 both played in the match and deputised as umpires, in the former case because the appointed umpire, J.H.Hodges. withdrew due to the players' complaints about his decisions and in the latter case because the appointed umpire, J.S.Swift, failed to turn up on the final morning of the match.

taipan wrote:He was an umpire FFS

If it's who I think you mean he played 5 Tests and umpired 18 between 1967-75. His last Test was the notorious "Free George Davis" match at Headingley in 1975 when the pitch was dug up on the final day with eating utensils stolen from a motorway service station. I think he also refused to come out at the start of the 3rd day of Edgbaston Test between England and the West Indies in August 1973 because of criticism of his decision by West Indian players. Alan Oakman, the then Warwickshire coach, who had also played in Tests whilst a player with Sussex, deputised for him until ***** came out 10 minutes after the start of play.

He still holds the unique record as a player, of scoring 2 double centuries in the same match.

Allan D wrote:

taipan wrote:He was an umpire FFS

If it's who I think you mean he played 5 Tests and umpired 18 between 1967-75. His last Test was the notorious "Free George Davis" match at Headingley in 1975 when the pitch was dug up on the final day with eating utensils stolen from a motorway service station. I think he also refused to come out at the start of the 3rd day of Edgbaston Test between England and the West Indies in August 1973 because of criticism of his decision by West Indian players. Alan Oakman, the then Warwickshire coach, who had also played in Tests whilst a player with Sussex, deputised for him until ***** came out 10 minutes after the start of play.

He still holds the unique record as a player, of scoring 2 double centuries in the same match.

That's the guy, but thanks to tac he shall for evermore be known as *****.

No, I think that was already in place. It's something to do with the hosts being French and the French idolising the Yanks in the same way Allan D / Australia does.

Brass Monkey wrote:No, I think that was already in place. It's something to do with the hosts being French and the French idolising the Yanks in the same way Allan D / Australia does.

No, Dello put it in place after tac reported the board to the hosts

taipan wrote:How far is Reiffel from getting a gig?

Venkat

According to someone on my cricket tour who was involved with umpiring, not too long from being promoted to the panel. According to him the players don't like or rate him as an umpire (he loses concentration) and they won't be happy.

Arthur F's remarkable performance, given that it was a 3-day match, against Eseex at Colchester in 1938. One of his teammates was Tom Spencer, who also became a Test umpire, and with whom Arthur F stood in The Oval Test against New Zealand in August 1969 when Spencer had been recalled to the Test umpires' list after a 15-year hiatus:

Essex v. Kent, Colchester, 13-15 July 1938

I see Brendan Nash is in the runs again. I see he's averaging over 60 this season. But of course the Windies are soooooooooooooooo f*cking excellent that they just don't need him. Not. Required.

Is it cos he is Bleck?

It's coz he iz one of them that them selectors don't like. You know, one of the better ones. Maybe he should've written a letter to the board and put it out in public like Shivers.

'ow's t'weaver lookin' up Trent Bridge way?