Re: Aus Federal Politics thread (V)

[Mick Sawyer]

I see absolutely no reason for the State much less some weirdo church/mosque/temple/cult to have a role in validating a relationship

Horrie, the point you seem to consistently miss is that many like the idea of a relationship that is validated in some formal, ceremonial manner. It must be about the freedom to choose.

[horace]

...choice ...an over rated concept...sheep placidly choosing to enter the abbattoir..

all choice gave us was consumerism...hmmn...now a big mac or a hungry jacks..

if you want to have ceremony that can be done without sanction of the State or cult...the point is that peoples choices are limited by what has been rammed down their throats

[skully]

SO nobody farked up for the Pinkos today?? FMD, miracles do happen. Must be cos the Vulture is hidden away in Mexico.

[bodyline]

I see the EC told her to shut the fark up!

[Mick Sawyer]

I see the EC told her to shut the fark up!

Link?

I heard her on News radio this morning. You know when she's speaking on economic matters that every word is lifted from briefing notes.

[Mick Sawyer]

...choice ...an over rated concept...sheep placidly choosing to enter the abbattoir..

all choice gave us was consumerism...hmmn...now a big mac or a hungry jacks..

if you want to have ceremony that can be done without sanction of the State or cult...the point is that peoples choices are limited by what has been rammed down their throats

horrie, I get that you are opposed to marriage.

[JGK]

The thought of Gina Reinhart as advised by Singo controlling Fairfax is truly frightening...

Fairfax shares fall

June 19, 2012 - 12:39PM
AAP

Fairfax Media shares have suffered heavy losses in early trading after shooting up on Monday.

Fairfax stocks were 3.0 cents, or 4.6 per cent, weaker, at 62 cents at 1210 AEST.

City Index chief market analyst Peter Esho said he thought Tuesday's retreat was partly linked to the fact that Australia's richest person, Gina Rinehart, might stop increasing her stake through her company Hancock Prospecting.

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The multi-billionaire has confirmed she has an 18.7 per cent stake and would have to launch a formal takeover offer if her holding went above 19.9 per cent.

Mr Esho said he wasn't convinced she intended to make a takeover bid.

"I am not sure if that's her intention at the moment, but I wouldn't completely rule it out," Mr Esho said, suggesting a consortium might make a pitch.

Mrs Rinehart is believed to be seeking three seats on the Fairfax board and the right to make editorial decisions, including on the hiring and firing of editors.

Chairman Roger Corbett has reportedly offered her two board seats, but on the condition she not interfere with editorial content.

But her business ally, media entrepreneur and former Fairfax director John Singleton, said Mrs Rinehart should be free to hire and fire if it means the media company remains profitable.

Mr Singleton said while directors should not interfere with editorial decisions, Fairfax board members had a responsibility to shareholders.

"I think some editorial interference would have made the papers more readable in the past, don't you?" he told ABC radio.

"Editors are in fact hired by the CEO who is hired by the board.

"Businesses can't be held to ransom by employees, particularly if it means you are going to lose money."

© 2012 AAP

[bodyline]

I see the EC told her to shut the fark up!

Link?

I heard her on News radio this morning. You know when she's speaking on economic matters that every word is lifted from briefing notes.

Linky

[skully]

Wow, the PM of piss-ant little Aus lecturing Europe on economic matters. Deary me, she's flipped her lid or was sampling the sherry after the latest Galaxy Poll. What a farkin embarrassment.

Meanwhile, Barosso was doing a Gillard and blaming others for the EU mess. "In a comment that is now likely to split the G20 meeting and dominate discussions over the coming days, Mr Barroso said it was not Europe's fault it was in such a mess. He blamed the US."

Er, did the US not buy enough olives from Greece?

Yes, yes, I know - Lehman Brothers.

[Big Dog]

Oh dear. A bit of an own goal by Juliar.

[skully]

Biggest.Arseclown.PM.Ever.

[bodyline]

Wow, the PM of piss-ant little Aus lecturing Europe on economic matters. Deary me, she's flipped her lid or was sampling the sherry after the latest Galaxy Poll. What a farkin embarrassment.

Meanwhile, Barosso was doing a Gillard and blaming others for the EU mess. "In a comment that is now likely to split the G20 meeting and dominate discussions over the coming days, Mr Barroso said it was not Europe's fault it was in such a mess. He blamed the US."

Er, did the US not buy enough olives from Greece?

Yes, yes, I know - Lehman Brothers.

She apparantly also told the Europeans off for not endorsing Stralian as the EU's common language.

[Mick Sawyer]

I see the EC told her to shut the fark up!

Link?

I heard her on News radio this morning. You know when she's speaking on economic matters that every word is lifted from briefing notes.

Linky

Cheers bl.

Whilst I have my doubts about her personal economic credibility I don't see a problem with an Australian PM saying "While we acknowledge that every country faces its own unique circumstances, we do believe there are some lessons for the world in the Australian way, she said."

wtf is she there if not to participate?

[G.Wood]

wtf is she there if not to participate?

Isn't it common knowledge what she is like when on the sherbets?

[bodyline]

wtf is she there if not to participate?

Isn't it common knowledge what she is like when on the sherbets?

Won't be the same Bunga Bunga without Silvio

[JGK]

Wow, the PM of piss-ant little Aus lecturing Europe on economic matters. Deary me, she's flipped her lid or was sampling the sherry after the latest Galaxy Poll. What a farkin embarrassment.
.

Here is an extract of a speech that your Demigod made to German political and business leaders back in 2002:


"It will come as no surprise for you to hear a prime minister say that he doesn't like the Common Agriculture Policy - and I don't. If you will forgive me, we don't find very acceptable a situation where the level of subsidy to agriculture from the European Union is 35% of the total value of agricultural production in the European Union - 35%. In the United States it is 21%, and in Australia it is 4%. We have very efficient farmers, they feel aggrieved by the current world trading system and we think it ought to change and we will argue very strongly and very passionately to the European Union. I'll be in Brussels next week and I will put the same views to individual government leaders in Europe, difficult though it is, we do need to address as a world community, the challenge of trade reform."


http://www.australianpolitics.com/news/2002/07/02-07-01a.shtml

[JGK]

I see the EC told her to shut the fark up!

Link?

I heard her on News radio this morning. You know when she's speaking on economic matters that every word is lifted from briefing notes.

Linky

From BL's link to the Courier Mail, this is what Barrosa apparently said to slap down the PM:

"Frankly, we are not coming here to receive lessons in terms of democracy or in terms of how to handle the economy," he said.


This is what the rest of the world said about the same incident:

Questioned about European Union credibility by a Canadian reporter, Barroso bristled: "Frankly, we are not coming here to receive lessons in terms of democracy or in terms of how to handle the economy."
"By the way this crisis was not originated in Europe," he told reporters at a summit in the resort of Los Cabos dominated by talk about how to boost debt-ridden European nations and get the global economy back on track.
"Seeing as you mention North America, this crisis originated in North America and much of our financial sector was contaminated by ''unorthodox practices'' from some sectors of the financial market," he stated.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0618/g20-to-meet-on-upbeat-note-after-greek-vote.html



Seriously, I don't know how your Tories can keep a straight face when you use News Corp media reports about the PM as a basis to say how shit she is.

[Big Dog]

I see the EC told her to shut the fark up!

Link?

I heard her on News radio this morning. You know when she's speaking on economic matters that every word is lifted from briefing notes.

Linky

From BL's link to the Courier Mail, this is what Barrosa apparently said to slap down the PM:

"Frankly, we are not coming here to receive lessons in terms of democracy or in terms of how to handle the economy," he said.


This is what the rest of the world said about the same incident:

Questioned about European Union credibility by a Canadian reporter, Barroso bristled: "Frankly, we are not coming here to receive lessons in terms of democracy or in terms of how to handle the economy."
"By the way this crisis was not originated in Europe," he told reporters at a summit in the resort of Los Cabos dominated by talk about how to boost debt-ridden European nations and get the global economy back on track.
"Seeing as you mention North America, this crisis originated in North America and much of our financial sector was contaminated by ''unorthodox practices'' from some sectors of the financial market," he stated.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0618/g20-to-meet-on-upbeat-note-after-greek-vote.html



Seriously, I don't know how your Tories can keep a straight face when you use News Corp media reports about the PM as a basis to say how shit she is.

So are you saying we should rely on the impartiality of Fairfax?

[skully]

Wow, the PM of piss-ant little Aus lecturing Europe on economic matters. Deary me, she's flipped her lid or was sampling the sherry after the latest Galaxy Poll. What a farkin embarrassment.
.

Here is an extract of a speech that your Demigod made to German political and business leaders back in 2002:


"It will come as no surprise for you to hear a prime minister say that he doesn't like the Common Agriculture Policy - and I don't. If you will forgive me, we don't find very acceptable a situation where the level of subsidy to agriculture from the European Union is 35% of the total value of agricultural production in the European Union - 35%. In the United States it is 21%, and in Australia it is 4%. We have very efficient farmers, they feel aggrieved by the current world trading system and we think it ought to change and we will argue very strongly and very passionately to the European Union. I'll be in Brussels next week and I will put the same views to individual government leaders in Europe, difficult though it is, we do need to address as a world community, the challenge of trade reform."


http://www.australianpolitics.com/news/2002/07/02-07-01a.shtml

Looks like MrK has usurped Ponts as the Vulture's head cheergirl.

[JGK]

Meanwhile, Craig Thomson is looking more and more like he might be (relatively) innocent...

http://www.independentaustralia.net/2012/politics/trouble-in-jacksonville/

[Big Dog]

Meanwhile, Craig Thomson is looking more and more like he might be (relatively) innocent...

http://www.independentaustralia.net/2012/politics/trouble-in-jacksonville/

Why?....who have they paid off now?

[Hass]

But to clarify my thoughts. While they are entitled to their opinion, the problem is their decision to voice it is very damaging. I've seen too many people's lives made a misery by the likes of these people for me to give them a free pass. And if calling them out on their crap makes me a bully then I don't really give a s--t!.

I'm sorry but that statement is somewhat hypocritical. You immediately take the position that you are right & the rest of the world is wrong. i.e. everyone is entitled to an opinion but the Gays opinion is worth a bit more than anyone else's.
I don't know what its like where you live but here if anyone voices anything but the gay line they are immediately hit with an avalanche of Homophobic & redneck accusations by gay activists, hence my comment regarding the use of PC to stifle any debate. You are never going to get 100% of acceptance on the issue of Gay Marriage & its time the Gays accepted this. Currently it seems to me that they are guilty of the same intolerance that they used to accuse society of being against them.

Of course I believe I'm right and the rest of the world is wrong - it's my opinion.

I also tend to have a particularly strong opinion on this matter because it directly affects my life.

My statement specifically referred to the people at last year's rally against same-sex marriage. Just look at those quotes I posted earlier. The star guest said supporters of gay marriage were evil. In fact, she said there was no greater evil. Bob Katter even complained about gay people using the word gay itself.

I compare these people to the types who shout "Fire" in a crowded theatre when there is no fire. They are exercising their right to free speech, but they are creating danger in doing so.

You see, I've been hearing these people's opinions my whole life - often in very direct ways. I've been told my relationships are immoral, perverse, wicked, selfish, narcissistic, shameful, sad, an abomination, a threat to society, and on and on. I have friends who were kicked out of home by their parents and cut off from their family. I know men who were sent to camps where they could be "cured". The people expressing these opinions didn't seem to hold back out of a fear of being "bullied" by the "gay lobby". Their actions have ruined many many lives.

These people are the base of the the anti-gay marriage movement. There are plenty of other people who don't believe in any of the nasty stuff outlined above, but who still oppose gay marriage. That's fine. I don't agree with them but I see where they're coming from and I understand that they don't like being lumped in with the bigots. But they aren't the ones driving the reactionary movement.

Australians don't have to like the idea of gay people getting married. I don't expect to get 100 per cent acceptance. What I do expect to get however is 100 per cent equal treatment under the law.

[JGK]

Meanwhile, the quntish, small-penis syndromed opposition, after refusing to grant Tony Burke a pair to go to the Rio Conference because of the "urgent national matter" of the Queensland marine park, didn't end up actually asking him a question on it over the last two days.

Beyond pathetic.

[JGK]

Fisher to resign from Senate

Judith Ireland
June 21, 2012 - 6:50PM

Liberal Senator Mary Jo Fisher has announced she will resign from the Senate, citing mental health issues.

Last year, the South Australian Senator was arrested for shoplifting and the assault of a security guard.

She was cleared of the shoplifting charge but found guilty of assault, even though the judge did not record a conviction.

During the trial, the court was told that Senator Fisher had been suffering a panic attack.

Today, Senator Fisher said that she would resign from the Senate as of August 10 this year.

"I do so on medical advice," she said in a statement.

Senator Fisher said she had experienced a further panic attack similar "but less severe than the one which caused such grief 18 months ago".

This comes as The Australian online reports that Senator Fisher was involved in another alleged shoplifting incident in Adelaide last weekend.

Senator Fisher said her road to "full recovery" from a depressive illness had been hampered by continuing to serve in public office.

Senator Fisher entered parliament in 2007 - filling a casual vacancy left by Amanda Vanstone - and is famous for last year dancing a "Hokey Pokey" as part of a debate on the carbon tax.



Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/fisher-to-resign-from-senate-20120621-20qnt.html#ixzz1yQ4fMl91

[embee]

Sad .....

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