England v Australia, 4th ODI, Chester-Le-Street, 7 July, 2012

The runups seem to be a little damp.

Forecast is shit. As Onions said earlier, he's never seen the sun up in Durham. It all points to a scorcher, with really exciting attacking cricket from both sides.

One more washout to guarantee England the series.

Typical bloody Aussie whinging about our weather - it's saving them from ritual disembowlment

Brass Monkey wrote:Forecast is shit. As Onions said earlier, he's never seen the sun up in Durham.

so why schedule games there?

He might not have been entirely serious about the sun.

Seems like Swann is being rested for the final 2 games and we're going to play James Tredwell. This is no time to start feeling sorry for Aus ffs....

What the f*ck??!! Aus can still draw the series! And Swanny was going to play at Edgbaston but it was rained off, so he received a rest anyway! F*cking twats.......

I don't mind players resting from the odd dead rubber, but the series is still alive in that Australia can still draw it. England are getting too cocky and inflexible with their rotations. As it turned out, ALL the England players received a rest at Edgbaston, so they should now adjust their plans and assume that Saturday is the 3rd ODI, not the 4th. What are the chances next year, after Australia have regained the Ashes, of Michael Clarke standing on the podium and saying "The two ODIs last year where we came back from the dead to draw that series was the turning point for us. It gave us some belief."

England wont admit it, but their hammering of Aus in the 2004 Champions Trophy semi final was the start of the turnaround for them. It gave them the belief that Aus weren't invincible. I think Michael Vaughan and Duncan Fletcher said as much in their books.

Keep the boot on the throat. Keep the momentum. Don't relinquish the dominance. Don't let them believe.

Nath wrote:

Brass Monkey wrote:Forecast is shit. As Onions said earlier, he's never seen the sun up in Durham.

so why schedule games there?

You can't provide for English weather being horseshit - you can have a very good guess but sometimes it surprises.

Henry wrote:I don't mind players resting from the odd dead rubber, but the series is still alive in that Australia can still draw it. England are getting too cocky and inflexible with their rotations. As it turned out, ALL the England players received a rest at Edgbaston, so they should now adjust their plans and assume that Saturday is the 3rd ODI, not the 4th. What are the chances next year, after Australia have regained the Ashes, of Michael Clarke standing on the podium and saying "The two ODIs last year where we came back from the dead to draw that series was the turning point for us. It gave us some belief."

England wont admit it, but their hammering of Aus in the 2004 Champions Trophy semi final was the start of the turnaround for them. It gave them the belief that Aus weren't invincible. I think Michael Vaughan and Duncan Fletcher said as much in their books.

Keep the boot on the throat. Keep the momentum. Don't relinquish the dominance. Don't let them believe.

I think you're sweet. Getting all enthused and indignant at the thought of restings happening in a 5 match friendly series. An inconsequential, gob-slappingly yawn-up of a 5 match pointless series of JAMODIs. I, too, cannot believe that they would think of resting a bloke who has had an immensely solid schedule for well over a year. It's astonishing to think that they'd care about a 3 match Test series against the best side in the world when there's a couple of nothing ODIs to win. They are a funny bunch.

Brass Monkey wrote:

Henry wrote:I don't mind players resting from the odd dead rubber, but the series is still alive in that Australia can still draw it. England are getting too cocky and inflexible with their rotations. As it turned out, ALL the England players received a rest at Edgbaston, so they should now adjust their plans and assume that Saturday is the 3rd ODI, not the 4th. What are the chances next year, after Australia have regained the Ashes, of Michael Clarke standing on the podium and saying "The two ODIs last year where we came back from the dead to draw that series was the turning point for us. It gave us some belief."

England wont admit it, but their hammering of Aus in the 2004 Champions Trophy semi final was the start of the turnaround for them. It gave them the belief that Aus weren't invincible. I think Michael Vaughan and Duncan Fletcher said as much in their books.

Keep the boot on the throat. Keep the momentum. Don't relinquish the dominance. Don't let them believe.

I think you're sweet. Getting all enthused and indignant at the thought of restings happening in a 5 match friendly series. An inconsequential, gob-slappingly yawn-up of a 5 match pointless series of JAMODIs. I, too, cannot believe that they would think of resting a bloke who has had an immensely solid schedule for well over a year. It's astonishing to think that they'd care about a 3 match Test series against the best side in the world when there's a couple of nothing ODIs to win. They are a funny bunch.

Swann has hardly been bowled into the ground so far this season. The weather has seen to that. Effectively, England basically lost a test match and now an ODI from their schedule. Like I said, if he was scheduled to play the Edgbaston ODI, considering it was rained off, why not scrap the plan to rest him at Durham and play him instead?

And you know how these Aussie are- Always looking for an opening, a sniff, a reason to believe they can come back. Why not keep them on the mat? Why give them a chance to back-slap, have gum chew-offs, and wicket celebration wanking circles? And their media will pick up the ball and run with it as well. Sure, every sane person knows this is just a stupidly scheduled money-spinner of a series, but the Aussies will convince themselves it's the start of their campaign to get the Ashes back off us.

Brass Monkey wrote:

Henry wrote:I don't mind players resting from the odd dead rubber, but the series is still alive in that Australia can still draw it. England are getting too cocky and inflexible with their rotations. As it turned out, ALL the England players received a rest at Edgbaston, so they should now adjust their plans and assume that Saturday is the 3rd ODI, not the 4th. What are the chances next year, after Australia have regained the Ashes, of Michael Clarke standing on the podium and saying "The two ODIs last year where we came back from the dead to draw that series was the turning point for us. It gave us some belief."

England wont admit it, but their hammering of Aus in the 2004 Champions Trophy semi final was the start of the turnaround for them. It gave them the belief that Aus weren't invincible. I think Michael Vaughan and Duncan Fletcher said as much in their books.

Keep the boot on the throat. Keep the momentum. Don't relinquish the dominance. Don't let them believe.

I think you're sweet. Getting all enthused and indignant at the thought of restings happening in a 5 match friendly series. An inconsequential, gob-slappingly yawn-up of a 5 match pointless series of JAMODIs. I, too, cannot believe that they would think of resting a bloke who has had an immensely solid schedule for well over a year. It's astonishing to think that they'd care about a 3 match Test series against the best side in the world when there's a couple of nothing ODIs to win. They are a funny bunch.

Are you playing against yourselves?

Maybe it should be all about the Ashes because I've noticed with our journos and our team the only thing you'd think is on our radar is the Ashes..

So resting Swann from the 3rd ODI will be the catalyst for us losing next years ashes.

Riiiiiiiiiiight.

Red wrote:

Brass Monkey wrote:

Henry wrote:I don't mind players resting from the odd dead rubber, but the series is still alive in that Australia can still draw it. England are getting too cocky and inflexible with their rotations. As it turned out, ALL the England players received a rest at Edgbaston, so they should now adjust their plans and assume that Saturday is the 3rd ODI, not the 4th. What are the chances next year, after Australia have regained the Ashes, of Michael Clarke standing on the podium and saying "The two ODIs last year where we came back from the dead to draw that series was the turning point for us. It gave us some belief."

England wont admit it, but their hammering of Aus in the 2004 Champions Trophy semi final was the start of the turnaround for them. It gave them the belief that Aus weren't invincible. I think Michael Vaughan and Duncan Fletcher said as much in their books.

Keep the boot on the throat. Keep the momentum. Don't relinquish the dominance. Don't let them believe.

I think you're sweet. Getting all enthused and indignant at the thought of restings happening in a 5 match friendly series. An inconsequential, gob-slappingly yawn-up of a 5 match pointless series of JAMODIs. I, too, cannot believe that they would think of resting a bloke who has had an immensely solid schedule for well over a year. It's astonishing to think that they'd care about a 3 match Test series against the best side in the world when there's a couple of nothing ODIs to win. They are a funny bunch.

Are you playing against yourselves?

Maybe it should be all about the Ashes because I've noticed with our journos and our team the only thing you'd think is on our radar is the Ashes..

That's what happens when you haven't won them for a while.

Henry wrote:And you know how these Aussie are- Always looking for an opening, a sniff, a reason to believe they can come back. Why not keep them on the mat? Why give them a chance to back-slap, have gum chew-offs, and wicket celebration wanking circles? And their media will pick up the ball and run with it as well. Sure, every sane person knows this is just a stupidly scheduled money-spinner of a series, but the Aussies will convince themselves it's the start of their campaign to get the Ashes back off us.

Ohhhh gosh. Gosh. I expect this sort of bilge from a couple of whimsical journalists - not a real human being. I think your hysteria is hysterical. I mean, 'landing the first blow'? Everybody talked up that CT victory. Still, they'd dominated proceedings for the previous 17 years. Of course, we must think ahead to next year's Ashes because a) we're not playing anyone of note between now and then and b) we really need to land the first blow because i) all of their ODI players will be playing the Tests and ii) they've won the last two Ashes series whilst England have been in disarray.

Red wrote:
Are you playing against yourselves?

Maybe it should be all about the Ashes because I've noticed with our journos and our team the only thing you'd think is on our radar is the Ashes..

Playing SA.

It's not all about the Ashes because of the above team, plus IndiainIndia. But, that's us. I don't know your schedule, but it's most likely playing a bunch of shit in your newfound fave format - T20.

Henry wrote:Keep the boot on the throat. Keep the momentum. Don't relinquish the dominance. Don't let them believe.

This is not ruthless enough.

Stamp repeatedly on the throat, grind it into the wicket until it is a barely noticeable pinkish stain, then dig up the pitch and incinerate it.

Odds on us playing both Woakes and Tredwell together and STILLLLL batting Bresnan at 7?

Please weather gods, save us...

JKLever wrote:Please weather gods, save us...

BBC headline..... ' UK Braced for severe floods '

I've now heard that Durham may miss the worst of it - the Midlands are going to take the hit. I can't keep up with the weather anymore - it's like some soap that I don't give a shit about. Like Eastenders or something.

Dear God, what a shit country Blighty is!!! Give us some cricket, you qunts.

skully wrote:Dear God, what a shit country Blighty is!!! Give us some cricket, you qunts.

Imagine how cold it will be next year for the ashes after the carbon tax has had 12 months to work its magic

Sage. It'll be winter all year round in Blighty. Oh wait...