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Post by skully Sun 08 Jul 2012, 00:32

The baby sweep looks a certainty.


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Post by beamer Sun 08 Jul 2012, 00:34

Always pisses it down in Manchester, so might be 3-0 rather than 4-0...

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Post by Henry Sun 08 Jul 2012, 00:44

It will probably be a completely different England bowling attack except for Finn. Something like-

Finn
Woakes
Dernbach
Tredwell
Patel
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Post by JKLever Sun 08 Jul 2012, 00:47

So... not much after Finn then. Gashorama!
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Post by Henry Sun 08 Jul 2012, 00:49

JKLever wrote:So... not much after Finn then. Gashorama!

That's just about been the case even with a full strength attack. I mean Bresnan FFS. Even on a cloudy day with a seaming pitch yesterday, he still went at 5+ an over when everyone else was under 4.
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Post by Nath Sun 08 Jul 2012, 01:55

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Post by lardbucket Sun 08 Jul 2012, 06:06

concede and return

at least we might have seen the last of Johnson and Lee, forever

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Post by Basil Sun 08 Jul 2012, 09:50

Henry wrote:It will probably be a completely different England bowling attack except for Finn. Something like-

Finn
Woakes
Dernbach
Tredwell
Patel

Dernbach won't be playing - he has a side strain.
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Post by Red Sun 08 Jul 2012, 10:15

Basil wrote:
Henry wrote:It will probably be a completely different England bowling attack except for Finn. Something like-

Finn
Woakes
Dernbach
Tredwell
Patel

Dernbach won't be playing - he has a side strain.

Which is a bonus for the poms!
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Post by Basil Sun 08 Jul 2012, 10:18

Red wrote:
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Henry wrote:It will probably be a completely different England bowling attack except for Finn. Something like-

Finn
Woakes
Dernbach
Tredwell
Patel

Dernbach won't be playing - he has a side strain.

Which is a bonus for the poms!

He would be a better bowler without the obsession for slower balls and slow ball bouncers - he can get it down at quite a decent lick.
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Post by Henry Sun 08 Jul 2012, 10:29

Dernbach should model himself on Jimmy. Forget the slower balls and just concentrate on swing at a decent pace.
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Post by Brass Monkey Sun 08 Jul 2012, 12:46

Dernbach bowled OK for little reward in his last game...
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Post by Big Dog Mon 09 Jul 2012, 08:15

Mickey Arthur is looking just as big a useless qunt as the previous coach. I said at the time he was nothing more than a self promoting windbag & see no reason to change my opinion.
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Post by Henry Mon 09 Jul 2012, 09:39

Perhaps the players should take more of the blame than the selectors and coaches?
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Post by skully Mon 09 Jul 2012, 10:30

I'd prefer to put this down to low intensity/under-preparation in a JAMODI series after 6 weeks off. It wasn't long ago that we were pasting the Bannies and performing well against an improving Windies side.

But on paper the current bunch looks ordinary, and are performing as such. If Warner, Watson and Clarke fail, it's curtains for the game. You can't be making scratchy <250 scores and expect to hold out a confident English batting side.
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Post by JKLever Mon 09 Jul 2012, 10:50

Everybody is pasting the bannies recently Skully!
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Post by taipan Mon 09 Jul 2012, 10:52

skully wrote:I'd prefer to put this down to low intensity/under-preparation in a JAMODI series after 6 weeks off. It wasn't long ago that we were pasting the Bannies and performing well against an improving Windies side.

But on paper the current bunch looks ordinary, and are performing as such. If Warner, Watson and Clarke fail, it's curtains for the game. You can't be making scratchy <250 scores and expect to hold out a confident English batting sideUndercooked.

red wrote:fixed.
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Post by skully Mon 09 Jul 2012, 11:17

JKLever wrote:Everybody is pasting the bannies recently Skully!
True enough, Windows.
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Post by JGK Mon 09 Jul 2012, 11:18

Let's face it, a team with Bailey and Forrest in the top 6 just looks shit.

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Post by JKLever Mon 09 Jul 2012, 11:24

Welcome to the future....
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Post by Big Dog Mon 09 Jul 2012, 22:14

Henry wrote:Perhaps the players should take more of the blame than the selectors and coaches?

Its the coaches job to ensure the players don't have to take the blame.
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Post by Brass Monkey Mon 09 Jul 2012, 22:21

You're right BD, they've picked all the ramshackle Tozzies that a single team can possibly stand.
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Post by G.Wood Mon 09 Jul 2012, 22:47

It's not the Tozzies fault. They can't be expected to stand up and perform in the face of bullybell.
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Post by Brass Monkey Mon 09 Jul 2012, 22:51

Aye. And how could George Bailey be expected to wreck the mighty Tim Bresnan with his incredible 80MPH leg-stump deliveries?
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Post by JGK Mon 09 Jul 2012, 22:51

JKLever wrote:Welcome to the future....


ACtually, it feels like 1990s England.

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