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Post by Mick Sawyer Mon 20 Aug 2012, 01:42

horace wrote:no but have read other material about the scandal...gillard was and is a grub but doubt she made a quid out of it

Did you see her stare down Paul Kelly yesterday? I only saw grabs that aired on the news. She needs to find a way of mass producing some of that conviction and shovel it out every time she's in front of a microphone.
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Post by Big Dog Mon 20 Aug 2012, 01:43

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Post by embee Mon 20 Aug 2012, 01:50

Mick Sawyer wrote:
horace wrote:no but have read other material about the scandal...gillard was and is a grub but doubt she made a quid out of it

Did you see her stare down Paul Kelly yesterday? I only saw grabs that aired on the news. She needs to find a way of mass producing some of that conviction and shovel it out every time she's in front of a microphone.

It was effective in stopping him ask his question ...it didnt provide an answer ...and it brought the "scandal" to the 6 oclock news of 7 and 9 ...then followed by a burst of Abbott calling for her to answer the allegations in parliament ...
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Post by Mick Sawyer Mon 20 Aug 2012, 01:57

embee wrote:
Mick Sawyer wrote:
horace wrote:no but have read other material about the scandal...gillard was and is a grub but doubt she made a quid out of it

Did you see her stare down Paul Kelly yesterday? I only saw grabs that aired on the news. She needs to find a way of mass producing some of that conviction and shovel it out every time she's in front of a microphone.

It was effective in stopping him ask his question ...it didnt provide an answer ...and it brought the "scandal" to the 6 oclock news of 7 and 9 ...then followed by a burst of Abbott calling for her to answer the allegations in parliament ...

Most don't give a rat's about her culpability. She addressed the question by saying "I did nothing wrong Paul" & then went on to ask if he wanted to make an allegation. The ball was then in his court.

The good viewers of commercial news finally got to hear a leader acting like one.
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Post by Paul Keating Mon 20 Aug 2012, 02:06

It made Gillard look sneaky.

But I loves the way a 40 year journalism veteran of oz politics was flustered and didn't know what to do.
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Post by Mick Sawyer Mon 20 Aug 2012, 02:34

Paul Keating wrote:It made Gillard look sneaky.

But I loves the way a 40 year journalism veteran of oz politics was flustered and didn't know what to do.

sneaky, maybe. More importantly she spoke with conviction, to the extent that Kelly was flustered. More of that thanks PM.

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Post by embee Mon 20 Aug 2012, 02:47

Mick

The last time 'the people' will remember her speaking with such conviction she said 'there will be no carbon tax under a government I lead'
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Post by Mick Sawyer Mon 20 Aug 2012, 02:49

embee wrote:Mick

The last time 'the people' will remember her speaking with such conviction she said 'there will be no carbon tax under a government I lead'

They now have a new "last time". That's the point.
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Post by embee Mon 20 Aug 2012, 03:00



Those that want to put a positive spin on it will (30%)

Those that want to put a negative spin on it will (70%)
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Post by Paul Keating Mon 20 Aug 2012, 03:02

embee wrote:Mick

The last time 'the people' will remember her speaking with such conviction she said 'there will be no carbon tax under a government I lead'

No the conviction she spoke with yesterday is the same conviction that made her the best politician of the current parliament according to Janet Albrechsten, the same conviction which prompted Alan Jones say she should be leading the country instead of Rudd, and the same conviction that had many in the coalition fearful to ask her questions in question time.

She lost that conviction when she became PM and has never got it back. She needs to continue with it.
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Post by Paul Keating Mon 20 Aug 2012, 03:05

embee wrote:

Those that want to put a positive spin on it will (30%)

Those that want to put a negative spin on it will (70%)

Those that want to vote Coalition has increased by 3% since the last election. Despite what you say is the worst government in decades.
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Post by embee Mon 20 Aug 2012, 03:13

Ponts

I have always said this govt cant sell its message and rushes policy and decisions

They will win the next election because the sky wont fall in as Abbott has promised under a carbon tax and Hockey wont be able to provide a costing of Abbott's promises and keep a surplus
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Post by Mick Sawyer Mon 20 Aug 2012, 04:12

embee wrote:

Those that want to put a positive spin on it will (30%)

Those that want to put a negative spin on it will (70%)

Probably and as much as I'd like to see her improve her public performances as a leader, it won't happen.
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Post by Mick Sawyer Mon 20 Aug 2012, 04:13

embee wrote:Ponts
They will win the next election because the sky wont fall in as Abbott has promised under a carbon tax and Hockey wont be able to provide a costing of Abbott's promises and keep a surplus

They won't be able to sell that message either.
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Post by G.Wood Mon 20 Aug 2012, 04:17

I am sure the Mad Monk will be able to draw a bow from the carbon price through increase in power rates to the falling in of the sky
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Post by embee Mon 20 Aug 2012, 04:18

Mick

If they cant sell that message then we/they are in deep trouble
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Post by Mick Sawyer Mon 20 Aug 2012, 04:49

embee wrote:Mick

If they cant sell that message then we/they are in deep trouble

Stand by embee, we have our own version of GWB on his way to the Lodge.
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Post by JGK Mon 20 Aug 2012, 05:20

Big Dog wrote:
JGK wrote:Territorians... All class.

http://www.smh.com.au/national/the-diary/blind-rage-at-nt-liberals-jerkoff-advert-20120820-24h66.html

Crude...but funny. Laughing


I would have more respect for it if they used "wanker" rather than "jerk off".

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Post by skully Mon 20 Aug 2012, 06:36

Big Dog wrote:
JGK wrote:Territorians... All class.

http://www.smh.com.au/national/the-diary/blind-rage-at-nt-liberals-jerkoff-advert-20120820-24h66.html

Crude...but funny. Laughing
I chuckled. Very Happy
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Post by Mick Sawyer Mon 20 Aug 2012, 08:13

G.Wood wrote:I am sure the Mad Monk will be able to draw a bow from the carbon price through increase in power rates to the falling in of the sky

Yep.
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Post by JGK Mon 20 Aug 2012, 08:13

Meanwhile, the Mad Monk becomes the first Opposition Leader in 26 years to be ejected from Parliament.


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Post by skully Mon 20 Aug 2012, 09:55

Following in the grand footsteps of LJH. Maybe it's a sign. cheers

Called the Vulture a liar. Er, I don't see the problem. scratch
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Post by lardbucket Mon 20 Aug 2012, 13:02

JGK wrote:Meanwhile, the Mad Monk becomes the first Opposition Leader in 26 years to be ejected from Parliament.


Aye, that's been a trick mastered by a few PMs (usually with the help of their deputy) but not so much by Opposition Leaders.

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Post by Allan D Mon 20 Aug 2012, 21:05

Australia: Is It an Oppressive Democracy?
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Post by Paul Keating Mon 20 Aug 2012, 21:34

I am not aware of these Internet filters in the article. Anyone confirm if this is true please.
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