Re: Aus Federal Politics thread (VI)

[skully]

If talkback is anything to go by, h is on the money with the effect he says Can Do And Fatty O'Barrell are having on the psyche of the voters Federally. Many contracted the wireless to say they wouldn't vote Blue because of all the recent funding cuts in Qld and NSW.

The razor gang hasn't just turned up for kicks. The previous Labor Governments basically sent the states to the wall.

Indeed, bl. But people have short memories (i.e. the shithouse job done by the previous State pinkos in both States), and the fact that a State is broke means not much to the average punter. I fear the tough measures to keep Qld and NSW afloat may cost the Fed Blues a chance of cleaning up the Vulture's mess.

[skully]

If talkback is anything to go by, h is on the money with the effect he says Can Do And Fatty O'Barrell are having on the psyche of the voters Federally. Many contracted the wireless to say they wouldn't vote Blue because of all the recent funding cuts in Qld and NSW.

How many of those calling would have voted Liberal?

Ask yourself this barney; which fecking stations do you think skully listens to?

Triple M?

[JGK]

The truly appalling Sen.Cory Bernadi on his blog today in relation to the Muslim "riot" in Sydney on the weekend:


"What occurred in western Europe a decade ago is now happening here," Senator Bernardi said in a post on his blog today.
"The naive cling to the romantic idealisation of the generations of migrants who have successfully settled in Australia, thinking things will continue just as they have in the past."
Senator Bernardi argued that even though multiculturalism was seen as a "triumph of tolerance" it undermined national values and cohesiveness.

"Our culture is built upon the two great pillars of Western civilisation – the rule of law and Judeo-Christian values. To allow these great strengths to be undermined by supporting calls for any form of legal plurality or the indulgence of cultural practices that go against our social norms is to abandon reason."


Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/mp-suggests-removing-child-protester-from-parents-20120917-2617k.html#ixzz26iJvcQxz

[horace]

Can Do Joh has cut every tenancy and housing support service...

Seriously?

yes

[horace]

If talkback is anything to go by, h is on the money with the effect he says Can Do And Fatty O'Barrell are having on the psyche of the voters Federally. Many contracted the wireless to say they wouldn't vote Blue because of all the recent funding cuts in Qld and NSW.

How many of those calling would have voted Liberal?

rofl..many...there are heaps of tories in the QPS ...many have benefitted from Can Do Joh but even more have become collateral damage by being in the wrong place at the wrong time...they are squealing the loudest...I saw two blues I know who were in the demo last week at Chip Parl House...not happy with Can do Joh

[horace]

The truly appalling Sen.Cory Bernadi on his blog today in relation to the Muslim "riot" in Sydney on the weekend:


"What occurred in western Europe a decade ago is now happening here," Senator Bernardi said in a post on his blog today.
"The naive cling to the romantic idealisation of the generations of migrants who have successfully settled in Australia, thinking things will continue just as they have in the past."
Senator Bernardi argued that even though multiculturalism was seen as a "triumph of tolerance" it undermined national values and cohesiveness.

"Our culture is built upon the two great pillars of Western civilisation – the rule of law and Judeo-Christian values. To allow these great strengths to be undermined by supporting calls for any form of legal plurality or the indulgence of cultural practices that go against our social norms is to abandon reason."


Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/mp-suggests-removing-child-protester-from-parents-20120917-2617k.html#ixzz26iJvcQxz

don't know about Judeo, but Christian values have led to the slaughter of millions...often in their own internecine wars - eg Catholic Croat v Orthodox Serb

I for one do not subscribe to that nonsense - I'd put greater faith in backing jgk's tips

[bodyline]

If talkback is anything to go by, h is on the money with the effect he says Can Do And Fatty O'Barrell are having on the psyche of the voters Federally. Many contracted the wireless to say they wouldn't vote Blue because of all the recent funding cuts in Qld and NSW.

How many of those calling would have voted Liberal?

rofl..many...there are heaps of tories in the QPS ...many have benefitted from Can Do Joh but even more have become collateral damage by being in the wrong place at the wrong time...they are squealing the loudest...I saw two blues I know who were in the demo last week at Chip Parl House...not happy with Can do Joh

The public servants are under the delusion that they are owed a job.

[horace]

If talkback is anything to go by, h is on the money with the effect he says Can Do And Fatty O'Barrell are having on the psyche of the voters Federally. Many contracted the wireless to say they wouldn't vote Blue because of all the recent funding cuts in Qld and NSW.

How many of those calling would have voted Liberal?

rofl..many...there are heaps of tories in the QPS ...many have benefitted from Can Do Joh but even more have become collateral damage by being in the wrong place at the wrong time...they are squealing the loudest...I saw two blues I know who were in the demo last week at Chip Parl House...not happy with Can do Joh

The Blooz public servants are under the delusion that they are owed a job.

fixed.

Barney...having worked in the public service in various govts, I can assure you most people are motivated to do and perform a good job for the community they service..

No-one is owed a living or owns a job...

Many of those sacked have undertaken work of great value - as nurses, architects, cleaners, program designers, social workers, teachers etc....they do not fill the swanko restuarants for long lunches on thurs and fridays late into the day

[horace]

the issue is the arrant stupidity with which Can Do Joh and his mates are conducting themselves...it is as though the past 25 years of progress in chipville never happened...as my mate there says..."Can do has brought the Joh lovers and crooks out of the cupboard...and they are out there, "loud and proud"

[Big Dog]

Cutting jobs in the public sector by a new government is usually a result of mismanagement by the previous government. I seem to recall Kennett doing the same thing when he came to power & i imagine if the Libs win the next Fed election there will be heavy cuts to make up for Labor's woeful overspending & wastage.

[JGK]

Cutting jobs in the public sector by a new government is usually a result of mismanagement by the previous government. I seem to recall Kennett doing the same thing when he came to power & i imagine if the Libs win the next Fed election there will be heavy cuts to make up for Labor's woeful overspending & wastage.

The Federal Public service was bigger under Howard.

Kennett did do the same thing and eventually lost the unloseable election to Bracks.

[horace]

Cutting jobs in the public sector by a new government is usually a result of mismanagement by the previous government. I seem to recall Kennett doing the same thing when he came to power & i imagine if the Libs win the next Fed election there will be heavy cuts to make up for Labor's woeful overspending & wastage.

BD in singing out of tume from the Libs songsheet earblasting albeit predicatble shocker

[bodyline]

Over the past three decades we have seen successive Governments expand the size and scope of the Federal Budget, to the detriment of all Australians - and I must emphasise this is a bi-partisan issue.


Cut a bit here, cut a bit there. And then just get rid of a whole lot of the other stuff.
This year’s budget with all its debt and deficit continues a disturbing trend with the centralisation and growth of the Federal Government. Treasury figures show the total dollar value of Australian Government spending has grown from $176.9 billion in 2000-2001 to $314.3 billion by 2010-11, a total increase of 78 per cent.

This equates to 5.9 per cent growth per annum over the past decade.

This growth in spending is particularly noteworthy given Australia has experienced 19 consecutive years of real GDP growth, unemployment has fallen to 4.9 per cent, a 33 year low, and capital utilisation is at a record high of 84.2 per cent.

So why is the Government spending so much when times are so good? Under the guise of terms such as “progressivism”, “social justice”, “equality” and “a fair go” Australia has advanced along the well-worn path of wealth redistribution and exploitive tax regimes more akin to the broken European Welfare model.

Wayne Swan continues to make statements such as: “This Government is responsible for creating jobs, creating wealth and spreading the prosperity” and “This Government will not waste the resources boom and we will ensure the wealth is spread”.

When did it become OK for the Government to claim credit for the prosperity of free enterprise? This is a false dichotomy and any attempt to spread prosperity “to every postcode” still leaves us with disadvantage in Australia.

Let me be blunt, it is not progressive to grow the federal budget. It is not progressive to continually expand the size and scope of the federal government; it is in fact regressive by any reasoned definition or historical context.

In Australia we have yet to have a robust debate on exactly what the role of the Federal Government is.

In the modern electoral cycle politicians would have educated Australians believe the only policies worth voting for are ones framed around big spending announcements and what voters should expect to receive. Both major political parties have come to believe only further government expansion will ensure campaign success.

Our leaders need to understand the role of Government is not to give things away and redistribute wealth simply to win votes.

The world over the GFC has forced Governments to rethink their obligations to their citizens. Countries like Portugal, Ireland and Spain have been forced to downsize their government with a gun to their heads.

Nobody is suggesting the Government doesn’t have a role to play; government can do a lot of good, but only if it settles for being a hand maiden to the free market.

We ought not to be debating whether we can save a million here or million there, but whether whole departments, agencies, and programs can go. You can hardly call the Department of Climate Change, numerous multicultural councils, over priced school halls, set top boxes and now the Department of Feel Good Carbon Tax Compensation a wise use of taxpayer money.

As MPs we should all be asking ourselves a fundamental question when assessing new legislation: Is this something that needs to be done by government, or are we contributing to a wider problem of government growth and private enterprise subversion?

I think it can bring about smaller government with a fundamental re-think about our tax regime and the way it’s administered.

The Henry Tax Review, despite costing $10 million dollars and taking 18 months to compile, is not worth the paper it’s written on. We need to ask the hard theoretical questions like: Is income tax still necessary, should we use a flat income tax rate and should it be administered by the Federal Government?

I believe it would be possible to reduce the income tax compensated by an increase in the GST and other consumption taxes but we have never even considered this approach. If we were able to cut our income tax bill in half, this would go a long way to solving cost of living pressures.

It would also address much of the government-induced spending inflation. Every attempt at providing handouts, stimulus and subsidies merely inflates the economy and places greater economic pressure on all Australians. We need to get away from the idea that big government makes our lives better. Let’s try the opposite; less government and less tax.

We must ask ourselves: What functions does government need to do? Examples would be defence, law and order. For reasons of social solidarity, what do we want government to do? This may include a basic income for all, universal education and basic healthcare.

Do we want to pay for services through general taxation or consumption taxes? What is the least costly way of raising government revenues?

Australian Government spending is growing faster than private sector investment. Debt financing is allowing our government to grow unchecked. Large government and mass wealth re-distribution has not payed off by delivering higher living standards or better social conditions for Australia.

Bigger is not better. Let the markets play a bigger role in delivering on the promises that politicians have already made


http://www.thepunch.com.au/articles/its-time-our-givernment-trimmed-the-fat/

[Big Dog]

Cutting jobs in the public sector by a new government is usually a result of mismanagement by the previous government. I seem to recall Kennett doing the same thing when he came to power & i imagine if the Libs win the next Fed election there will be heavy cuts to make up for Labor's woeful overspending & wastage.

BD in singing out of tume from the Libs songsheet earblasting albeit predicatble shocker

I like a nice tume.

[JGK]

Cutting jobs in the public sector by a new government is usually a result of mismanagement by the previous government. I seem to recall Kennett doing the same thing when he came to power & i imagine if the Libs win the next Fed election there will be heavy cuts to make up for Labor's woeful overspending & wastage.

BD in singing out of tume from the Libs songsheet earblasting albeit predicatble shocker

I like a nice tume.

Predicatble response from BD...

[Big Dog]

Cutting jobs in the public sector by a new government is usually a result of mismanagement by the previous government. I seem to recall Kennett doing the same thing when he came to power & i imagine if the Libs win the next Fed election there will be heavy cuts to make up for Labor's woeful overspending & wastage.

BD in singing out of tume from the Libs songsheet earblasting albeit predicatble shocker

I like a nice tume.

Predicatble response from BD...

Predicted that too i suppose.

[skully]

Any reason Bowen didn't send to Nauru the qunts that forced the merchant ship skipper to turn around from his Singapore heading and make for Christmas Island?? Shirley that would've sent a message to the quntish people-smugglers??

[horace]

most voters who are blues would prefer the Turnip as their great and glorious leader...support for the MM is slumping

[skully]

This has always been the case, h.

[horace]

the Turnip's speech on the absence of quality debate in parliament - a less than subtle dig at the MM - and the MMs declining stocks look like the tipping point...Turnip forces here are optimistic...the MM will be dispatched before xmas

[Big Dog]

most voters who are blues would prefer the Turnip as their great and glorious leader...support for the MM is slumping

I doubt it. Turnbull had his chance & blew it. For all his faults, Abbott was the only one to pick up the pieces & turn the Libs into a viable opposition.

[skully]

I like the street-fighter in him - it gets up the noses of the Pinkos, as evidenced by their desperate attempts to sully his name by dredging up shit from his Uni days. Jeezus, we were all mad qunts in that era of our lives, FFS.

[horace]

even the Big Dog would have had a shaggy mane in those days

and skully would have had a mane


and RD would have had two socks on the go

[Big Dog]

even the Big Dog would have had a shaggy mane in those days

Still do

[JGK]

I like the street-fighter in him - it gets up the noses of the Pinkos, as evidenced by their desperate attempts to sully his name by dredging up shit from his Uni days. Jeezus, we were all mad qunts in that era of our lives, FFS.

Recent quote from Tony Abbott:


"I am not asking the Australian people to take me on trust, but on the record of a lifetime. As student president, trainee priest, Rhodes Scholar, surf life saver and volunteer firefighter, as well as a Member of Parliament."

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