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Re: Aus Federal Politics thread (VI)
Slipper has resigned!
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aye, was always likely ...
'you can't go round calling people qunts'
'you can't go round calling people qunts'
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Wow!! What does that mean?bodyline wrote:Slipper has resigned!
Or is it a "resigned but sit on the backbench and give his vote to the Pinkos"?
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Nevermind, this seems to be the answer...
"If Mr Slipper is replaced directly by Labor MP Anna Burke, who has been filling in for him for six months, then the Labor Government will go back to having a majority of one on the floor of Parliament, depending once again on Labor turned independent MP, Craig Thomson."
"If Mr Slipper is replaced directly by Labor MP Anna Burke, who has been filling in for him for six months, then the Labor Government will go back to having a majority of one on the floor of Parliament, depending once again on Labor turned independent MP, Craig Thomson."
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Re: Aus Federal Politics thread (VI)
I've just watched both Abbott and Gillard's speech's in full and have come to the conclusion that both leaders disgraced themselves in parliament today.
Abbott's decision to use Jones' "die of shame" comment was something he should be ashamed of himself. While it was the government that he said should have "died of shame" in this instance, the phrase's connotations are obvious and can only be seen as a grubby, personal attack on Gillard.
It is no wonder she was fired up in her response. Unfortunately, her decision to go on a crusade against Tony Abbott by labelling him a sexist and a mysoginist was beyond the pale. Her attempt to stand up against double standards while ultimately defending double standards was nothing new in politics, but the outrage with which she did so was unworthy of a Prime Minister.
I've always cast a valid vote at elections in the past, but I'm finding it hard to see how I can vote anything other than informal this time around without throwing up all over the ballot box.
Abbott's decision to use Jones' "die of shame" comment was something he should be ashamed of himself. While it was the government that he said should have "died of shame" in this instance, the phrase's connotations are obvious and can only be seen as a grubby, personal attack on Gillard.
It is no wonder she was fired up in her response. Unfortunately, her decision to go on a crusade against Tony Abbott by labelling him a sexist and a mysoginist was beyond the pale. Her attempt to stand up against double standards while ultimately defending double standards was nothing new in politics, but the outrage with which she did so was unworthy of a Prime Minister.
I've always cast a valid vote at elections in the past, but I'm finding it hard to see how I can vote anything other than informal this time around without throwing up all over the ballot box.
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Re: Aus Federal Politics thread (VI)
The Age claiming Gillard did the conveyancing ...she's in trouble when the pinko rags are putting the boots in
Property links PM to stolen funds
Date
October 10, 2012
THE disgraced former boyfriend of Prime Minister Julia Gillard took a leading role in the purchase with stolen union funds of a Fitzroy unit bought in the name of a union crony, new documents reveal.
The documents also confirm that Ms Gillard intensely managed legal work on the 1993 transaction - without advising her senior partners at law firm Slater & Gordon of the involvement of boyfriend Bruce Wilson.
The house was nominally purchased by Australian Workers Union official Ralph Blewitt, a protege of Mr Wilson, a former West Australian and later Victorian state secretary of the union.
A letter sent to Mr Wilson from Ms Gillard's office on February 22, 1993, said: ''Mr Blewitt will be registered owner of the unit you are purchasing.''
Mr Blewitt had not seen the unit, in Kerr Street, Fitzroy, when it was bought earlier that month by Mr Wilson, who was accompanied to the auction by Ms Gillard.
The transaction was effected by Mr Wilson using a power of attorney for Mr Blewitt that was drafted by Ms Gillard.
Ms Gillard broke off her four-year relationship with Mr Wilson and resigned from Slater & Gordon after she was challenged by senior partners in late 1995 about the work. She has repeatedly denied any wrongdoing since then.
National officials of the AWU discovered in April 1996 that the unit had been purchased partly with stolen union funds - a total of more $100,000 towards the unit and stamp duty.
Investigations by police and the AWU found hundreds of thousands of dollars had been misappropriated from the AWU Workplace Reform Association.
The association was incorporated in Western Australia under advice from Ms Gillard with the declared objective of ''development of change to work to achieve safe workplaces''.
But in her meeting with senior Slater & Gordon partners in September 1995, Ms Gillard described the association - which drew big company donations, ostensibly for workplace reform - as a union election ''slush fund''.
At a press conference in Canberra in late August Ms Gillard said she regretted using the term ''slush fund'' but confirmed the purpose of the association was to fund union election campaigns. She said she was unaware at the time that some of
these funds had been used to buy the Fitzroy unit.
Conveyancing files prepared in Ms Gillard's office in early 1993 show Mr Wilson handled almost all of the matters associated with the purchase and that she waived professional fees totalling more than $1600.
The files show that $67,722.20 towards the purchase was transferred to Slater & Gordon's trust account on February 22, 1993. That money was later revealed to have been taken from the AWU Workplace Reform Association.
The balance of the purchase was funded by a $150,000 mortgage with Slater & Gordon loan funds arranged by Ms Gillard.
Almost all of the correspondence relating to the settlement was addressed to Mr Wilson, who also swore a statutory declaration of behalf of Mr Blewitt to effect the mortgage.
A detailed letter dated March 17, 1993, outlining the conditions of the mortgage - including instructions on how to make the mortgage loan repayments - was sent to Mr Wilson's then home address in Carlton and not copied to Mr Blewitt.
In another document Ms Gillard requested a memo from Slater & Gordon staff on how penalty interest was to be paid.
In her September 1995 meeting with the firm's senior partner, Peter Gordon, and general manager Geoff Shaw - details of which were first revealed last month - Ms Gillard said Mr Wilson had persuaded Mr Blewitt to purchase a property where he would become tenant.
''What was said to me at that stage was that Ralph had an interest in investing in a property … and that Bruce had talked to him about making an investment in Victoria rather than Western Australia because it would suit everybody's purposes,'' she said, according to a transcript of the meeting.
The plan had ''made sense'' to her. ''I didn't have any particular reason to question it in great detail, or at all,'' she said.
Ms Gillard also conceded she ''hadn't made a careful enquiry'' about the financial circumstances of Mr Blewitt - ''a middle-aged man on his second marriage''. ''His wife worked. So, you know, they weren't Mr and Mrs Onassis but they were relatively well positioned,'' she said.
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/political-news/property-links-pm-to-stolen-funds-20121009-27bnm.html#ixzz28oDLGQzi
Property links PM to stolen funds
Date
October 10, 2012
THE disgraced former boyfriend of Prime Minister Julia Gillard took a leading role in the purchase with stolen union funds of a Fitzroy unit bought in the name of a union crony, new documents reveal.
The documents also confirm that Ms Gillard intensely managed legal work on the 1993 transaction - without advising her senior partners at law firm Slater & Gordon of the involvement of boyfriend Bruce Wilson.
The house was nominally purchased by Australian Workers Union official Ralph Blewitt, a protege of Mr Wilson, a former West Australian and later Victorian state secretary of the union.
A letter sent to Mr Wilson from Ms Gillard's office on February 22, 1993, said: ''Mr Blewitt will be registered owner of the unit you are purchasing.''
Mr Blewitt had not seen the unit, in Kerr Street, Fitzroy, when it was bought earlier that month by Mr Wilson, who was accompanied to the auction by Ms Gillard.
The transaction was effected by Mr Wilson using a power of attorney for Mr Blewitt that was drafted by Ms Gillard.
Ms Gillard broke off her four-year relationship with Mr Wilson and resigned from Slater & Gordon after she was challenged by senior partners in late 1995 about the work. She has repeatedly denied any wrongdoing since then.
National officials of the AWU discovered in April 1996 that the unit had been purchased partly with stolen union funds - a total of more $100,000 towards the unit and stamp duty.
Investigations by police and the AWU found hundreds of thousands of dollars had been misappropriated from the AWU Workplace Reform Association.
The association was incorporated in Western Australia under advice from Ms Gillard with the declared objective of ''development of change to work to achieve safe workplaces''.
But in her meeting with senior Slater & Gordon partners in September 1995, Ms Gillard described the association - which drew big company donations, ostensibly for workplace reform - as a union election ''slush fund''.
At a press conference in Canberra in late August Ms Gillard said she regretted using the term ''slush fund'' but confirmed the purpose of the association was to fund union election campaigns. She said she was unaware at the time that some of
these funds had been used to buy the Fitzroy unit.
Conveyancing files prepared in Ms Gillard's office in early 1993 show Mr Wilson handled almost all of the matters associated with the purchase and that she waived professional fees totalling more than $1600.
The files show that $67,722.20 towards the purchase was transferred to Slater & Gordon's trust account on February 22, 1993. That money was later revealed to have been taken from the AWU Workplace Reform Association.
The balance of the purchase was funded by a $150,000 mortgage with Slater & Gordon loan funds arranged by Ms Gillard.
Almost all of the correspondence relating to the settlement was addressed to Mr Wilson, who also swore a statutory declaration of behalf of Mr Blewitt to effect the mortgage.
A detailed letter dated March 17, 1993, outlining the conditions of the mortgage - including instructions on how to make the mortgage loan repayments - was sent to Mr Wilson's then home address in Carlton and not copied to Mr Blewitt.
In another document Ms Gillard requested a memo from Slater & Gordon staff on how penalty interest was to be paid.
In her September 1995 meeting with the firm's senior partner, Peter Gordon, and general manager Geoff Shaw - details of which were first revealed last month - Ms Gillard said Mr Wilson had persuaded Mr Blewitt to purchase a property where he would become tenant.
''What was said to me at that stage was that Ralph had an interest in investing in a property … and that Bruce had talked to him about making an investment in Victoria rather than Western Australia because it would suit everybody's purposes,'' she said, according to a transcript of the meeting.
The plan had ''made sense'' to her. ''I didn't have any particular reason to question it in great detail, or at all,'' she said.
Ms Gillard also conceded she ''hadn't made a careful enquiry'' about the financial circumstances of Mr Blewitt - ''a middle-aged man on his second marriage''. ''His wife worked. So, you know, they weren't Mr and Mrs Onassis but they were relatively well positioned,'' she said.
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/political-news/property-links-pm-to-stolen-funds-20121009-27bnm.html#ixzz28oDLGQzi
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Re: Aus Federal Politics thread (VI)
Unions, corrupt as the come, and heartily supporting the dodgy Pinkos. Punching a wall v buying a unit with stolen union funds. Hmmm, well played Ms Vulture, you trump MM.
I imagine qmy will claim the AWU is not affiliated with the Labor Party.
I imagine qmy will claim the AWU is not affiliated with the Labor Party.
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Hass wrote:I've just watched both Abbott and Gillard's speech's in full and have come to the conclusion that both leaders disgraced themselves in parliament today.
Abbott's decision to use Jones' "die of shame" comment was something he should be ashamed of himself. While it was the government that he said should have "died of shame" in this instance, the phrase's connotations are obvious and can only be seen as a grubby, personal attack on Gillard.
It is no wonder she was fired up in her response. Unfortunately, her decision to go on a crusade against Tony Abbott by labelling him a sexist and a mysoginist was beyond the pale. Her attempt to stand up against double standards while ultimately defending double standards was nothing new in politics, but the outrage with which she did so was unworthy of a Prime Minister.
I've always cast a valid vote at elections in the past, but I'm finding it hard to see how I can vote anything other than informal this time around without throwing up all over the ballot box.
Some political correspondents here thought Julia G's performance was wonderful but I tend to agree with you that it won't cut much ice with the voters when the election comes round. Still it was a feisty performance worthy of Jodie Foster at her best. You could almost hear Tony A pouring the chianti:
Gillard brands Abbott a "misogynist"
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Some international reaction...
http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/julia-badass-gillard-slipper-resignation-just-a-sidebar-20121010-27c0g.html
http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/julia-badass-gillard-slipper-resignation-just-a-sidebar-20121010-27c0g.html
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JGK wrote:Some international reaction...
http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/julia-badass-gillard-slipper-resignation-just-a-sidebar-20121010-27c0g.html
Yes, good summary of the Western political chatterati but I doubt it's shared by the average Australian voter of either gender.
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Allan D wrote:JGK wrote:Some international reaction...
http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/julia-badass-gillard-slipper-resignation-just-a-sidebar-20121010-27c0g.html
Yes, good summary of the Western political chatterati but I doubt it's shared by the average Australian voter of either gender.
Well there isn't exactly an "average" Australian voter. I think it would have played well enough for some, would have alienated others.
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PMSL @ the super hypocritical Pinkos. Apparently Abbott is a bad, bad misogynist yet the Vulture, Roxs-in-her-head, Plebiscite etc all supported and voted for the vile Slipper (after that grub Albanese sucked him off out the back in a sweetheart deal). The Pinkos are gonna look very silly if they continue their recent line on Abbott. The Aus media has called them on it widely this morning (I note MrK had to go to a reference to an international rad-lez-fem website for some cheer-leading today, cos there's none in Aus).
Deary me. Pinko credibility = ZERO.
Deary me. Pinko credibility = ZERO.
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Speaking of no credibility, it looks like the Coalition WILL accept Slipper's vote in Parliament going forward.
Apparently it is somehow less tainted than Craig Thompson's.
Apparently it is somehow less tainted than Craig Thompson's.
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What's good for the Goose...
And you seriously don't think that bucket of shit will actually side with the Libs on anything, do you? That's part of Albanese's blowjob deal.
And you seriously don't think that bucket of shit will actually side with the Libs on anything, do you? That's part of Albanese's blowjob deal.
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skully wrote:PMSL @ the super hypocritical Pinkos. Apparently Abbott is a bad, bad misogynist yet the Vulture, Roxs-in-her-head, Plebiscite etc all supported and voted for the vile Slipper (after that grub Albanese sucked him off out the back in a sweetheart deal). The Pinkos are gonna look very silly if they continue their recent line on Abbott. The Aus media has called them on it widely this morning (I note MrK had to go to a reference to an international rad-lez-fem website for some cheer-leading today, cos there's none in Aus).
Deary me. Pinko credibility = ZERO.
I think AD has just spontaneously combusted at skully describing The Spectator and The Daily Telegraph as "rad-lez".
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Read the post, Cheergirl. "Had to go to a reference to...". Jezebel is a women's advocacy website - ultra rad-lez-fem (as you'd know as head cheergirl for the Pinkos), which, of course, made no mention of the Vulture's vote for Slipper's antics.
Must try harder, Mr Highly Strung.
Must try harder, Mr Highly Strung.
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The problem with yesterday in Canberra is that everybody lost ...there were no winners
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Aye. Abbott could've claimed a moral victory had he not re-used Jones' "died of shame" line, which ironically, he had used several times prior to Jones doing so, and well before Mr Gillard's demise.
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Hence no winners.
Other than the media who have loads of material to work with.
Other than the media who have loads of material to work with.
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embee wrote: ...there were no winners
skully wrote:Aye.
You're on a bogan roll today, MrK.JGK wrote:Hence no winners.
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skully wrote:What's good for the Goose...
And you seriously don't think that bucket of shit will actually side with the Libs on anything, do you? That's part of Albanese's blowjob deal.
Where's slippery pete's beard???
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Interesting sidelight to yesterday's events (from an article generally critical of the government):
There is of course one final aspect of all this that is yet to play out. In demanding Slipper’s departure, the Coalition has just set a new benchmark for political behaviour, one that, courtesy of the government's defence of Slipper, doesn’t apply to anyone except itself and Wilkie. All male Coalition MPs and Wilkie will now need to reflect: did they ever send a vulgar message or email privately to a staffer, a colleague or a journalist? Did they ever reflect on the appearance of a female colleague? Did they ever call someone a c-nt? Did they ever make a smutty joke that, stripped of its private context and cast into newsprint, will look s-xist?
If they did, they’re all now just one leak, one disgruntled former adviser, one factional enemy, away from a world of pain. One they voted for yesterday.
Pretty much rules anyone on these boards from becoming a Liberal pollie.
There is of course one final aspect of all this that is yet to play out. In demanding Slipper’s departure, the Coalition has just set a new benchmark for political behaviour, one that, courtesy of the government's defence of Slipper, doesn’t apply to anyone except itself and Wilkie. All male Coalition MPs and Wilkie will now need to reflect: did they ever send a vulgar message or email privately to a staffer, a colleague or a journalist? Did they ever reflect on the appearance of a female colleague? Did they ever call someone a c-nt? Did they ever make a smutty joke that, stripped of its private context and cast into newsprint, will look s-xist?
If they did, they’re all now just one leak, one disgruntled former adviser, one factional enemy, away from a world of pain. One they voted for yesterday.
Pretty much rules anyone on these boards from becoming a Liberal pollie.
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Nice picture of slippery sitting by himself in parliament.......TEXTING!!!!!
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JGK wrote:Interesting sidelight to yesterday's events (from an article generally critical of the government):
There is of course one final aspect of all this that is yet to play out. In demanding Slipper’s departure, the Coalition has just set a new benchmark for political behaviour, one that, courtesy of the government's defence of Slipper, doesn’t apply to anyone except itself and Wilkie. All male Coalition MPs and Wilkie will now need to reflect: did they ever send a vulgar message or email privately to a staffer, a colleague or a journalist? Did they ever reflect on the appearance of a female colleague? Did they ever call someone a c-nt? Did they ever make a smutty joke that, stripped of its private context and cast into newsprint, will look s-xist?
If they did, they’re all now just one leak, one disgruntled former adviser, one factional enemy, away from a world of pain. One they voted for yesterday.
Pretty much rules anyone on these boards from becoming a Liberal pollie.
Under the same logic then the ALP cant crusade against Abbott using the Sexist Card ...but it wont stop them ...and the Libs will continue on as normal ...
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