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Where could Steyn end up in the all time Test wickets list?

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Post by taipan Sun 03 Feb 2013, 12:18

Steyn closing in on Willis and Donald. The. A bit of a gap to Vass and Lillee
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Post by Red Sun 03 Feb 2013, 12:20

taipan wrote:
Red wrote:Marshall is the Windian bowler he most closely resembles. One advantage the Windies bowlers had of course was the luxury of bowling their overs at a slower pace because this wasn't enforced then and you could bowl in a more intimidatory manner than without the umps stepping in. Steyn's wickets have dried a bit since Philander entered the scene.

Yeah, he's only taken 19 so far in 2013.

And of the three tests you've played, Philander missed one. Smile
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Post by taipan Sun 03 Feb 2013, 12:25

Make that 20@9 now.
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Post by Brass Monkey Sun 03 Feb 2013, 12:50

taipan wrote:Make that 20@9 now.

I think you should be a bit more fair, Nidge. Yes, Steyn has taken 81 wickets @ 21.83 since Vern first played a Test, BUT his S/R is 44.1.

So she's basically right.
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Post by taipan Sun 03 Feb 2013, 12:54

Brass Monkey wrote:
taipan wrote:Make that 20@9 now.

I think you should be a bit more fair, Nidge. Yes, Steyn has taken 81 wickets @ 21.83 since Vern first played a Test, BUT his S/R is 44.1.

So she's basically right.

True. I was just thinking Lillee would have taken a lot more wickets if Thomson had never been boen.
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Post by horace Sun 03 Feb 2013, 22:01

steyn is the best pace bowler I have seen in decades...better that ooh aah...agree his record will suffer from Philander and wickets being gifted to Snorkel
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Post by taipan Mon 04 Feb 2013, 10:39

Steyn in 2013 update.

24@8.75 S/R 25.7
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Post by Henry Mon 04 Feb 2013, 11:11

horace wrote:steyn is the best pace bowler I have seen in decades...better that ooh aah...agree his record will suffer from Philander and wickets being gifted to Snorkel

Not sure if he's better than Mcgrath. On a par, maybe. Completely different types of bowlers.

But to put it in perspective- In this era of huge bats, flat pitches, and short boundaries, to take over 300 test wickets at 22 is quite extraordinary. The man widely considered the second best fast bowler in the world, James Anderson, has taken over 200 wickets at 30. Huge statistical gap between the two.
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Post by taipan Mon 04 Feb 2013, 11:17

Henry wrote:
horace wrote:steyn is the best pace bowler I have seen in decades...better that ooh aah...agree his record will suffer from Philander and wickets being gifted to Snorkel

Not sure if he's better than Mcgrath. On a par, maybe. Completely different types of bowlers.

But to put it in perspective- In this era of huge bats, flat pitches, and short boundaries, to take over 300 test wickets at 22 is quite extraordinary. The man widely considered the second best fast bowler in the world, James Anderson, has taken over 200 wickets at 30. Huge statistical gap between the two.

Huge discrepancy in strike rates. Steyn is down to 40
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Post by Brass Monkey Mon 04 Feb 2013, 11:32

Steyn was the business from pretty much Test #3 onwards.

Jimbo was piss for an age.
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Post by Red Mon 04 Feb 2013, 11:51

Steyn averaging under nine this year. Seems he is bowling with less pace but greater accuracy and control. Lillee also adapted his bowling style with age.
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Post by Henry Mon 04 Feb 2013, 13:02

Steyn bowls in moods. Tends to just put it in the right spot at around 135 kph with the new ball, but often returns angrier with an older ball, and cranks it up to 140+
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Post by Brass Monkey Mon 04 Feb 2013, 13:39

Steyn bowls within himself when he feels he doesn't need the overexertion - why bowl lightning at a bunch of hacks when they're all over the shop at the lower pace.
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Post by PeterCS Mon 04 Feb 2013, 17:02

This thread could be retitled: "Steyn is the dog's. End of"
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