for the stats kings

Not sure if this has been discussed elsewhere

SRT is currently on 106*

and currently averages

has 604 runs at the SCG for 2 dismissals

averaging 302.

If he got out now. He'd still average 201.33

Who averages more at a ground with a criteria of 500 runs?

no one. i remember this stat being pulled out after the last time india played at sydney. next best was under 200 iirc (and this was with a 300 run qualification)

Bradman at Leeds was one of the best. Hammond at the SCG would have been right up there too, but I can't find the numbers at the moment.

How about Lawrence Rowe wherever it was that he made his double and undefeated ton?

Bradman at Leeds: 963 @ 192.6

Hammond at the SCG: 808 @ 161.6

lardbucket wrote:How about Lawrence Rowe wherever it was that he made his double and undefeated ton?

Rowe at Kingston = 567 @ 113.40

Lara at Antigua = 1650 @ 78.57

Interestingly, DGB's average at the SCG was 58.58, some 41 below his overall Test average.

Tubby averages a lazy 426 at Arbab Niaz Stadium, Peshawar.

we have our winner

Paul Keating wrote:Who averages more at a ground with a criteria of 500 runs?

do we?

tubby takes the 300 qual.

As far as I can determine, here's the top 5 (min 500 runs and 5 innings at venue):

Javed Miandad (Pak) 189 8832
Niaz Stadium, Hyderabad
6 inns, 4 no, 3 100s, 661 runs @ 330.50

SR Tendulkar (Ind) * will be included following his current innings
Sydney Cricket Ground
5 inns 3 no, 2 100s, 498 runs @ 249.00

M Azharuddin (Ind)
Green Park, Kanpur
5 inns, 2 no, 3 100s, 543 runs @ 181.00

WR Hammond (Eng) 1928-1946 140
Sydney Cricket Ground
7 inns, 2 no, 4 100s, 808 runs @ 161.60

DG Bradman (Aus)
Headingley, Leeds
6 inns, 1 no, 4 100s, 963 runs @ 192.60

An an extra, who didn;t manage the 500 run mark:
HR Adhikari (Ind)
Feroz Shah Kotla, Delhi
6 inns, 4 no, 1 100, 365 runs @ 182.50

Kallis has 314 @ 314 at Harare.

Sandham? Dizzy?

Hammond really shouldn't have toured in 1946. Rumour has it that he only did so following a personal request from George VI. If he had not done so his record at Sydney would have remained 770 runs at 256.66 (scores of 251, 112, 101, 75*, 231*).

Bradman's test average at the SCG in this period was 47.62 (from 5 tests).

In all Ashes tests in Australia prior to WW2 Hammond averaged 75.54, Bradman averaged 72.78.

By way of contrast Hammond averaged 37.86 in pre WW2 Ashes tests in England, Bradman averaged 114.00.

For the record, I have seen SRT score 603 runs at the SCG without being dismissed.

the bcci should buy you tickets for every india match, forget the WAGs

So it looks like Miandad wins out.

Strange though, TO, whoever gave you the stat four years ago.

JGK wrote:For the record, I have seen SRT score 603 runs at the SCG without being dismissed.

Was this a woof?

ten years after wrote:Hammond really shouldn't have toured in 1946. Rumour has it that he only did so following a personal request from George VI. If he had not done so his record at Sydney would have remained 770 runs at 256.66 (scores of 251, 112, 101, 75*, 231*).

Bradman's test average at the SCG in this period was 47.62 (from 5 tests).

In all Ashes tests in Australia prior to WW2 Hammond averaged 75.54, Bradman averaged 72.78.

By way of contrast Hammond averaged 37.86 in pre WW2 Ashes tests in England, Bradman averaged 114.00.

I'm not sure about the request from George VI but the plan by the England cricketing establishment was always that Hammond would captain after WWII (thus following the precedent of WWI where Johnny Douglas had captained England both before and after the conflict but- like Hammond - was a shadow of his former self post-war). Hammond had captained in the so-called "Victory" Tests against the Australian Forces side in 1945 as well as all three Tests of the immediate post-war Indian tour in 1946. There was no real alternative as Yardley, his vice-captain and eventual successor, had only played one Test pre-war and did not become Yorkshire captain until 1948.

The Ashes tour was rather hastily arranged since if they had stuck to the pre-war four-year cycle (interrupted by the war) as the Olympics organisers did, a tour would not have taken place until 1948-9 (although the Australians, rather than the Indians, would have arrived in the wet summer of 1946 rather than two years later). The Australian public had been deprived of Test cricket for a decade since Gubby Allen's MCC side had been the last tourists in 1936-7 and it was thought that the appetite for the game (at least as a spectator sport) might wither unless the Ashes contest was resumed as soon as possible. Hammond, and curiously, Bill Voce, Larwood's former partner, were the two survivors from Allen's tour (which England lost 2-3 after winning the first two Tests) as well as the previous Bodyline Tour.

Even at the age of 43 Hammond had little going for him outside cricket anyway so it seems he would not have taken much persuasion. A recent biography showed that he was very much a "shamateur" only giving up his professional status at the request of the England selectors in 1938 so he could captain England after a succession of failed captains since Jardine. He was found a job as a sales rep for a brewery by a member of the Gloucestershire committee which merely enabled him to fulfil his cricketing committments home and abroad. He was frequently rescued from financial embarrassment by donations from wealthy committtee members of the MCC.

However anno domini and the enforced inactivity caused by the war (apart from a few representative matches and a spell in the South African Air Force) had taken their toll and though Bradman, his opposite number and five years his junior, showed that his appetite for the game was undiminished it proved a tour too far for Hammond. It had lasted until the end of March 1947 and included a Test at Lancaster Park, Christchurch where he had made 227 14 years earlier - and went on to make 336* and break Bradman's Test record at Eden Park, Auckland in the next match- Hammond made 79 in his last Test innings in a 2-day game (it was scheduled as a 3-day Test but the last day was rained off and although an extra day was added that too was washed out). Hammond consequently made 306 runs in two knocks on the same ground 14 years apart (no Tests were played against New Zealand on the 1936-7 tour).

On his return home Hammond announced his retirement from all first-class cricket and eventually emigrated to South Africa where he accepted an appointment as coach and groundsman to Natal University and died there in July 1965 at the age of 62.

One might speculate whether, if there had been no WWII, Hanmmond might not have been succeeded as England captain by either Maurice Turnbull or Ken Farnes, both casualties of the conflict, around 1942 (when Australia would have been next due to tour).

Paul Keating wrote:So it looks like Miandad wins out.

Strange though, TO, whoever gave you the stat four years ago.

yeah, funny, maybe i'm getting old

srt missing a chance to go past miandad