Was Hogg involved in Racist incident?

What happened?

India are trying to make a point. A bit childish perhaps, but you can tell that they are very angry about things.

FFS why do they need to start this stupid $hit when they have a valid position far as I see it? Don't back off, no way, but stop with the crybaby stuff.

When the BCCI denies that monkey chants were taking place in India despite obvious footage of the crowd doing it) it's a bit hard for them to make any sort of point isn't it?

furriner wrote:FFS why do they need to start this stupid $hit when they have a valid position far as I see it? Don't back off, no way, but stop with the crybaby stuff.

I think it's justified. If they're going to report every onfield incident, why shouldn't India?

Brad Hogg issue will be taken up by ICC tomorrow.

doremi wrote:

furriner wrote:FFS why do they need to start this stupid $hit when they have a valid position far as I see it? Don't back off, no way, but stop with the crybaby stuff.

I think it's justified. If they're going to report every onfield incident, why shouldn't India?

Because our accusation, when I read it last, is that Hogg called someone a 'bastard, which is a racist abuse in India'. I am paraphrasing, not giving an exact quote, from some unnamed Indian official.

Looking ahead, it weakens what I think so far is the validity of what we are saying. To begin with bastard ain't racist in India, far as I know. And they'll be laughed out of the ICC offices for complaining about 'bastard' on a cricket field, and most neutral observers will find it difficult not to laugh along. This takes attention away from our position. We don't need this, IMO.

Still would be nice to get final confirmation on what the serious charges against Hogg are, apart from mediocre bowling.

I think the argument is Hogg abused the players family when he called him bastard, which is also a level 3 offence probably.

'Bastard' is abuse, but there is fark all racist about it unless it was prefixed with something.

They aren't idiotic enough to claim 'bastard' is racist. Atleast I hope they're not. Most of what I've heard and seen seem to say Hogg abused Kumble like that, and Kumble has reported that as abusing his family. Don't know for sure it's Kumble though.

I think the point was that "bastard" is an extremely insulting term in India (rather than racist)...cultural sensitivities etc. etc: whereas in Oz it is almost a term of endearment don't you know?

doctorspin wrote:I think the point was that "bastard" is an extremely insulting term in India (rather than racist)...cultural sensitivities etc. etc: whereas in Oz it is almost a term of endearment don't you know?

Public displays of affection between unmarried folks are also insulting to Indians - perhaps they should complain about Ricky and the boys giving each other a good tonguing at the fall of each wicket.

No they are not. That's just the new "moral" brigade.

Dello wrote:

doctorspin wrote:I think the point was that "bastard" is an extremely insulting term in India (rather than racist)...cultural sensitivities etc. etc: whereas in Oz it is almost a term of endearment don't you know?

Public displays of affection between unmarried folks are also insulting to Indians - perhaps they should complain about Ricky and the boys giving each other a good tonguing at the fall of each wicket.

I though that was insulting to everyone, regardless of prejudice?

furriner wrote:

Dello wrote:

doctorspin wrote:I think the point was that "bastard" is an extremely insulting term in India (rather than racist)...cultural sensitivities etc. etc: whereas in Oz it is almost a term of endearment don't you know?

Public displays of affection between unmarried folks are also insulting to Indians - perhaps they should complain about Ricky and the boys giving each other a good tonguing at the fall of each wicket.

I though that was insulting to everyone, regardless of prejudice?

It gets Trev a bit hard, from what his mum told me . . .

Does anyone take the word "bastard" seriously anymore?

Surely India want Hogg to play in the next test????

Basil wrote:Does anyone take the word "bastard" seriously anymore?

This action against Hogg is just so obviously a pay back that it makes India look incredibly childish . . . more incredibly childish . . . . even more incredibly childish . . . or something.

Got to love the quote from Chetan Chaun saying that "all" the decisions went against India.

Should people with a bowling average over 50 even be allowed to sledge? There should be some rule against it.

You can open your mouth when you've earned it. Until then, shut up and try not to draw too much attention to your comical craptitude.

Only poetic justice that the two worst bowlers in either side get it in the neck. It's Hoggy's turn. They're lucky, they should have been shot.

JGK wrote:Got to love the quote from Chetan Chaun saying that "all" the decisions went against India.

Chetan Chaun? As in 'Chaun of the dead'?

They're all acting like a bunch of soft-cocks. Just STFU and play the damn game!

JGK wrote:Got to love the quote from Chetan Chaun saying that "all" the decisions went against India.

Not sure he said that. If he did, it could have something to do with English not being his first language. He said that India were badly affected by umpiring decisions. He also said that Australia received some bad decisions as well, but if it had been 50-50, India wouldn't have lost the match.

JGK wrote:Got to love the quote from Chetan Chaun saying that "all" the decisions went against India.

Chetan Shaun ?