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Post by Brass Monkey Wed 14 Aug 2013, 14:19

skully wrote:Typical Bails. Talking about AFL in the Politics thread, and Politics in the Shitty Toxic Pup thread.

Lift yer games, you clowns, the Forum skidmarker (sorry, that should read "hard marker") and forum hardman is not happy. threaten 
Wow. You really phoned that one in. So hackneyed. Drunks are known to repeat themselves though, I suppose.
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Post by PeterCS Wed 14 Aug 2013, 14:26

Talking of hamburgers with beetroot, is it better to pickle the 'root first, or just use it boiled up, with a bit of sauce?
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Post by skully Wed 14 Aug 2013, 21:26

Brass Monkey wrote:
skully wrote:Typical Bails. Talking about AFL in the Politics thread, and Politics in the Shitty Toxic Pup thread.

Lift yer games, you clowns, the Forum skidmarker (sorry, that should read "hard marker") and forum hardman is not happy. threaten 
Wow. You really phoned that one in. So hackneyed. Drunks are known to repeat themselves though, I suppose.
Isn't it time you dragged out your smallest violin line, Daniel? It's been a while.
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Post by skully Wed 14 Aug 2013, 21:28

PMSL. Obviously you are. Don't lose any sleep now, bam bam. Laughing 
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Post by skully Wed 14 Aug 2013, 21:33

PMSL at the idiot Pinkos

"LABOR has abandoned Kevin Rudd's pledge to end the "wall-to-wall negativity" of politics, launching an all-out assault on Tony Abbott's character by painting him as a man with outdated views on women and gay marriage.

The broadside, on top of Labor's attack on the Coalition's costings and scare campaign on the GST, will be backed by an advertising blitz and sets the scene for a massive personal attack on the Opposition Leader ahead of the September 7 election."


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Here's bg's no. 1 hypocrite, the slimy Krudd. Whinged until the cow came home about the Opposition's "negativity", and now abandons his "no negative politics" promise for a massive sookathon about about.

Pinkos - they're all the same - lying, sleazy dickheads. Laughing 
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Post by lardbucket Thu 15 Aug 2013, 00:13

JGK wrote:Is Nathan Bracken really going to run in Craig Thompson's seat?
Excellent. Can he provide sufficient swing when it's not a night game?

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Post by lardbucket Thu 15 Aug 2013, 00:15

baggygreen wrote:Follow the A-League. He's rather prominent even since he's gone from the club. Sure he still has a connection to it somehow (backoffice or sponsorship).
This should convince you, skully that bg is not your imagined nemesis, who'd have been all over the question with 'what, you SGDT? - the gayball is hella gay'.

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Post by embee Thu 15 Aug 2013, 01:13

unless it was a cunning plan to convince the SGDT it wasnt the gayball hating wozzie
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Post by Big Dog Thu 15 Aug 2013, 02:02

More grubby Labor work:
 
http://www.themercury.com.au/article/2013/08/15/385648_most-popular-stories.html
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Post by embee Thu 15 Aug 2013, 03:20

A reminder that Rudd and Gillard arent the worst pinko leaders this century ...

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Post by skully Thu 15 Aug 2013, 03:20

Both Sydney's main talkbacks (GB and UE) had much discussion about the Pinkos sudden about-face on the promise to "move away from negative politics". Mostly along the lines of Krudd showing his true slimy colours. Also much pillorying of Krudd's indignation at Abbott's "sex appeal" remark, and wide-spread disgust at that Scottish grub McTernan's appearance on ABC's "The Drum" last night. For the Pinkos sake, they should piss him off altogether. What a whining little drip.
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Post by skully Thu 15 Aug 2013, 03:22

embee wrote:A reminder that Rudd and Gillard arent the worst pinko leaders this century ...
If nothing else, Latho is highly entertaining. Laughing 
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Post by skully Thu 15 Aug 2013, 06:18

I'd take this

"Labor won't have to stay up late on the evening of September 7 for the bad news of the electoral result, according to a new analysis of betting market odds.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd's party will lose the election by 22 seats, collecting 63 seats to the oppositions's 85, according to analysis done for The Australian Financial Review by statisticians Kaighin McColl and Leng Lee.

The analysis is based on betting data from August 11."


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Hardly scientific, but I'd take it.
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Post by Hass Thu 15 Aug 2013, 07:34

The word from inside Aunty tonight is that Tony will be on 7.30

I reckon Leigh could go pretty hard on him tonight.

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Post by eowyn Thu 15 Aug 2013, 08:04

lardbucket wrote:
baggygreen wrote:Follow the A-League. He's rather prominent even since he's gone from the club. Sure he still has a connection to it somehow (backoffice or sponsorship).
This should convince you, skully that bg is not your imagined nemesis, who'd have been all over the question with 'what, you SGDT? -  the gayball is hella gay'.
skully thinks baggygreen is zimmy? ?!!

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Post by skully Thu 15 Aug 2013, 11:22

No, I said he had characteristics of Zimmy and Zat. I don't think he is either but he rocked in here with an arrogant assuredness and accompanying needle that seemed familiar.

Meanwhile, Krudd's legacy...

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Post by Paul Keating Thu 15 Aug 2013, 11:54

I just don't know why you bother, Skully.

Abbott is guaranteed to win.

No need to continue trying to get your point across.
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Post by skully Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:25

Just maintaining the rage, Ponts. No chance I will get complacent. Cool 
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Post by skully Thu 15 Aug 2013, 21:32

Last night, saw the latest feeble efforts by the Pinkos in their increasingly desperate election campaign. After 6 years of incessant whining about Abbott's alleged negativity, the latest batch of ads have some gaunt looking mother grumpily slagging off the Opposition leader about, wait for it....his lack of aggressiveness and negativity. Apparently* now he's hiding something. Then ad then lists a whole pack of lies about school, hospitals, etc.

Typical Pinko effort - they couldn't lie straight in bed.
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Post by Brass Monkey Thu 15 Aug 2013, 21:40

Hey gents. I've got a great recipe for salted caramel cookies - phwoar:

http://themoonblushbaker.blogspot.co.uk/2013/07/the-second-language-chewy-salted.html
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Post by skully Thu 15 Aug 2013, 23:47

Your sarcasm is noted, Dan. However, the title of the thread is unambiguous and has the words "Aus" and "Politics" clearly noted in the title. I would've thought that miserable narks like you and taips could simple choose not to look in, as suggested earlier by lardy and Woody. But suit yourselves. shrug 
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Post by embee Fri 16 Aug 2013, 02:51

Brass Monkey wrote:Hey gents. I've got a great recipe for salted caramel cookies - phwoar:

http://themoonblushbaker.blogspot.co.uk/2013/07/the-second-language-chewy-salted.html
That is so lazy ...they buy the salted caramel rather than make it ...you may as well just go and buy biscuits at the shop
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Post by embee Fri 16 Aug 2013, 04:41

Tensions have emerged between Kevin Rudd’s small campaign team and the Labor Party’s election headquarters in Melbourne, as Labor’s media strategy causes particular concern.

Twelve days into the federal election, Labor insiders in the Melbourne head office believe Mr Rudd is failing to cut through in the daily media cycle, with his press conferences running over time, the Prime Minister repeatedly criticising News Corp in the first week and snap decisions being taken by a small team of confidantes.

But other ALP staff working on the election, who spoke to The Australian Financial Review on condition of ­anonymity, expressed concern over the operation of campaign headquarters.

One Labor source in CHQ said senior advisers were being ignored and wanted campaign veteran Eamonn ­Fitzpatrick, a senior adviser to Mr Rudd and before that Julia Gillard, to leave Mr Rudd’s travelling party and “take charge” to improve communications and better relay decisions taken by the travelling party to headquarters.

Communications between the Rudd travelling party and CHQ are said to have been particularly problematic at the start of the campaign, with suggestions staff, including campaign director George Wright, were out of the loop on decisions taken by the Rudd brains trust, including Bruce Hawker and Mr Fitzpatrick, on the road.

Mr Wright has travelled with Mr Rudd in recent days; cabinet minister Mark Butler joined the Rudd party to provide counsel and improve communications with Labor’s national ­executive; and former Financial Review journalist Mark Davis is tasked with co-ordinating messages between the road and head office.

But a source in CHQ said: “Our newspaper strategy is non-existent. Everything is about process. Abbott has slipped up but that wasn’t from pressure – we had put him under.”

ANNOUNCEMENTS SINK WITHOUT TRACE
A former Gillard government adviser, who asked not to be named, said the rule of thumb for media strategy was that “if you have $10 million to announce you have a half decent drop”.

Both sides of politics employ “drops” to newspapers to drive their messages and “win” the morning news cycle of radio and breakfast TV.

But many of Labor’s biggest-spending announcements in a campaign short of money have sunk without a trace, including:

• $100 million funding for the Victorian Eye and Ear hospital, ignored by Fairfax Media’s The Age and relegated to page 10 in News Corp’s Herald Sun.

• $42 million for the National ICT research centre in Sydney, which was reported in the Financial Review five days later and nowhere else.

• $209 million to fund 137 new national trade training centres, which received 130 to 200 words of coverage in metropolitan dailies and critical coverage in The Australian.

• $100 million for a farming irrigation upgrade program in the Goulburn-Murray region, with after-the-announcement coverage in Stock and Land and The Weekly Times.

A Liberal strategist said the opposition had been left “scratching their heads” about Labor’s media strategy.

“Rudd seemed to be doing well before the campaign was announced. But Gillard dropped a lot of stories last time and this time it doesn’t seem to be happening. You need to be organised to do that and they don’t seem to be,” he said.

TAS NEWSPAPERS IGNORED PM’S VISIT
Mr Rudd’s visit to Tasmania last Saturday featured neither in The Mercury nor The Examiner, despite the Prime Minister promising $5 million to help redevelop the Hobart Showground and $375,000 to redevelop Launceston’s Prospect Park, and was relegated to a 241-word page seven story in the Sunday Tasmanian. Labor must hold on to the Tasmanian seats of Bass and Braddon to win government, and hopes to win back Denison.

Mr Rudd’s announcement on Thursday of a plan to develop northern Australia was also kept under wraps, with even the parochial NT News missing out, despite Labor being desperate to win the swinging NT seat of Solomon and hang on to the NT seat of Lingiari.

In contrast, Opposition Leader Tony Abbott’s media team has strategically dropped stories to newspapers, including his announcement of a 1.5 per cent company tax cut and his decision to preference the Greens last, while the Abbott team also dropped stories to Tasmania’s News Corp-owned Hobart Mercury and the Fairfax-owned Launceston Examiner to good effect, securing front page stories to coincide with each of the Opposition Leader’s visits to Tasmania.

Journalists travelling with Mr Rudd are accustomed to delayed press conferences and on Thursday, after announcing his Northern Territory policy late, Mr Rudd boarded the press plane to chat with the media in what was seen by some as an attempt to smooth the waters.

Veterans Affairs Minister Warren Snowdon was overheard complaining after an event at Robertson Barracks in Darwin to defence parliamentary secretary Mike Kelly about the event’s organisation, and not knowing what was happening next. Mr Kelly described it as a “moveable feast”.

NEGATIVE HEADLINES
Mr Snowdon then approached a Rudd staffer to ask what was up next, and when told it was a press conference, replied “No one’s told me anything. I’m not happy” before walking away.

Senior Labor advisers have spoken with the travelling media about a ­“pincer movement” of negative headlines in News Corp tabloids and negative Liberal campaign ads, and complained News Corp was “doing the work” for the Liberal Party.

Labor’s CHQ has sent at least 439 emails to the media, compared with a combined 190 from Liberal CHQ and Mr Abbott’s personal office, in the first 11 days of the campaign.

Other details, such as the website profiles of at least nine ALP candidates, were still missing from the ALP website on Thursday and two others were added in the last two days. Some senior staff in CHQ, many of whom worked for ministers until recently, are said to be disorganised and overly concerned about their personal fiefdoms.

A spokesperson for the ALP campaign said everyone in CHQ was working towards the same goal – the re-election of a Rudd Labor government.

“We have many talented and committed people working on this campaign, from young volunteers to experienced campaign workers, and we will continue to call Tony Abbott out for hiding his cuts from Australians because they deserve to know what he has planned,’’ the spokesperson said.

The Prime Minister’s office declined to comment.
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Post by skully Fri 16 Aug 2013, 05:56

Sounds like the same old Krudd. Making it up as he goes along and as he sees fit, without consultation.

Little wonder Abbott is refusing to give too much away until near the end of the campaign. Every time he announces something, Krud thinks "wow, that's a good idea, let's make it Pinko Policy". The Northern Economic Zone was announced by Abbott 6 months ago and howled down by the Vulture and her cronies, but suddenly it's Krudd policy.
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Post by skully Fri 16 Aug 2013, 07:22

[snigger]

"Labor's shock decision to recruit Peter Beattie as its candidate for the federal Queensland electorate of Forde appears to have backfired spectacularly, with the Coalition on track to win the seat in a landslide, The Australian Financial Review reports.
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The poll shows that in Forde, in south-east Queensland, the incumbent Liberal-National Party Member Bert van Manen is thrashing the former Queensland premier on a two-party preferred basis by 60 per cent to 40 per cent."


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