Re: Aus Federal Politics thread (XII)

by lardbucket Wed 09 Sep 2015, 09:55

All of the above is true ... but aren't we talking about the current Syrian crisis?

I don't think ETG is being too cynical.

by horace Thu 10 Sep 2015, 01:30

JGK wrote:
lardbucket wrote:Isn't the current problem perhaps that we haven't been bombing Syria yet?

I'm not serious, but I'm sure you get the point ... the Syrian disaster has little to do with 'bombing the crap' out of the Middle East. It has everything to do with the US and others supporting the 'Arab Spring' rebellion against Assad (and others in the area of his ilk) in so many ways, without fully thinking through or anticipating what might arise in the power vacuum they helped to create.

ISIS is filling in the power vacuum in Iraq which was caused by Bush bombing the crap out of Saddam and then Obama pulling out too early.

Taking it all back further, it could all be blamed on the neo-cons like Anton Scalia on the US Supreme Court who ruled to stop the Florida recount in 2000 allowing his buddy Dick Cheney to take power.

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by JGK Fri 11 Sep 2015, 03:58

Interesting that the Lib Democrats are preferencing the ALP over the Libs in Canning.

by embee Fri 11 Sep 2015, 04:09

Considering the Lib Dems didnt have a candidate in the 2013 election I dont see it as a problem

Probably a reaction to the Libs trying to force them to change their name

Media doing their best to make it something it isnt

by lardbucket Fri 11 Sep 2015, 04:28

JGK wrote:Interesting that the Lib Democrats are preferencing the ALP over the Libs in Canning.

Standard isn't it?

by JGK Fri 11 Sep 2015, 04:39

lardbucket wrote:
JGK wrote:Interesting that the Lib Democrats are preferencing the ALP over the Libs in Canning.

Standard isn't it?

wouldn't have thought so. Lib Dems generally vote with the government. But I think MB is right - it is a far q to Brian Loughane.

by lardbucket Fri 11 Sep 2015, 05:17

... you mean Mr Credlin?

(Loughnane)

Obviously I'm not up with the Lib Dems, I had always assumed they were ALP stalking horses, a bit like the original Democrats, the Greens and most of the Independents. Incorrect? Have they actually preferenced the ALP below 2nd in the past?

by lardbucket Fri 11 Sep 2015, 05:23

... so now I've googled them. Sound like a bunch of nutbag irrelevancies. Completely missed them and their 'policies'; which shows how interested I've been recently.

by JGK Fri 11 Sep 2015, 07:04

This video reemphasises two things, Dutton is a twit and ScoMo is sharp as.

by Bradman Fri 11 Sep 2015, 07:07

horace wrote:
JGK wrote:
lardbucket wrote:Isn't the current problem perhaps that we haven't been bombing Syria yet?

I'm not serious, but I'm sure you get the point ... the Syrian disaster has little to do with 'bombing the crap' out of the Middle East. It has everything to do with the US and others supporting the 'Arab Spring' rebellion against Assad (and others in the area of his ilk) in so many ways, without fully thinking through or anticipating what might arise in the power vacuum they helped to create.

ISIS is filling in the power vacuum in Iraq which was caused by Bush bombing the crap out of Saddam and then Obama pulling out too early.

Taking it all back further, it could all be blamed on the neo-cons like Anton Scalia on the US Supreme Court who ruled to stop the Florida recount in 2000 allowing his buddy Dick Cheney to take power.

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Don't fall into the Andrew Bolt mistake. Obama pulled out to a timetable established by Bush. But your point is well made. It wouldn't have been the first time the West had left a brutal but otherwise tame dictator in place for equilibrium's sake.

by Bradman Fri 11 Sep 2015, 07:09

lardbucket wrote:... so now I've googled them. Sound like a bunch of nutbag irrelevancies. Completely missed them and their 'policies'; which shows how interested I've been recently.

I'm actually avoiding the non sports news totally of late. The international stuff makes you sick and the domestic stuff suicidal.

by Henry Fri 11 Sep 2015, 07:20

JGK wrote:This video reemphasises two things, Dutton is a twit and ScoMo is sharp as.

Oh dear. Dutton an idiot for making the 'joke', and Abbott an even bigger idiot for laughing. Good to see they're now taking climate change seriously.....

by Ethics? The Gall! Fri 11 Sep 2015, 07:41

JGK wrote:This video reemphasises two things, Dutton is a twit and ScoMo is ~~sharp as~~ and asshole.

fixed

by Henry Fri 11 Sep 2015, 07:44

Labour will be all over that. There will be loud calls for Dutton to be sacked.

by JGK Fri 11 Sep 2015, 07:50

Henry wrote:Labour will be all over that. There will be loud calls for Dutton to be sacked.

Dutton is one of the best things the ALP has going for it.

by Ethics? The Gall! Fri 11 Sep 2015, 08:02

JGK wrote:
Henry wrote:Labour will be all over that. There will be loud calls for Dutton to be sacked.

Dutton is one of the best things the ALP has going for it.

yep. right behind tony abbott himself

by Henry Fri 11 Sep 2015, 08:06

And all the goodwill and diplomacy of the last couple of days undone in five seconds.

by lardbucket Fri 11 Sep 2015, 08:53

Dutton - first televised political suicide?

by JGK Fri 11 Sep 2015, 09:01

lardbucket wrote:Dutton - first televised political suicide?

Does that monk who burnt himself during the Vietnam War count?

by lardbucket Fri 11 Sep 2015, 09:20

The Drum has had some fun with pollies who've been caught out by concealed microphones before - Reagan, Bush, Gordon Brown ... but this is my favourite.

"tell those qunts from the embassy"

by Big Dog Fri 11 Sep 2015, 09:25

lardbucket wrote:Dutton - first televised political suicide?

Not really. Its only the pinko's who are creaming their jeans. I suspect the great unwashed could'nt give a toss.

by lardbucket Fri 11 Sep 2015, 09:34

I just wish ALL our elected representatives, of whatever persuasion, could try to behave as intelligently as they no doubt can, and as sensitively as possible, when on display. It's a bad look when they show themselves to be profane bullies or insensitive arrogant twats.

by taipan Fri 11 Sep 2015, 09:42

Maybe they use the cricket team as a role model?

by lardbucket Fri 11 Sep 2015, 10:00

The cricketers would be a vast improvement on the politicians, I'm sad to report. Stick the worst of the English, Australian, and Indian teams together and you still wouldn't approach the gauche offensive arrogance of our politicians. Each side of our politics is as bad as the other. Both major parties are totally dominated by schoolyard bullies, overgrown bovver boys, footy jocks who never had a real job but just kicked heads all the way to the top of the factional pre-selection race. It's not just the current mob. 'Ratf*ckers', anyone? 'Those *unts from the embassy', anyone?

by Ethics? The Gall! Fri 11 Sep 2015, 22:14

lardbucket wrote:The cricketers would be a vast improvement on the politicians, I'm sad to report. Stick the worst of the English, Australian, and Indian teams together and you still wouldn't approach the gauche offensive arrogance of our politicians. Each side of our politics is as bad as the other. Both major parties are totally dominated by schoolyard bullies, overgrown bovver boys, footy jocks who never had a real job but just kicked heads all the way to the top of the factional pre-selection race. It's not just the current mob. 'Ratf*ckers', anyone? 'Those *unts from the embassy', anyone?

at least the 'unrepresentative swill' line was original and didnt require profanity

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