Re: Aus Federal Politics thread (XII)

[horace]

The MM's greatest gifts to public life in Oz are stfu and getting out of politics. But sadly he and the other rightie men in the moon are still in full snipe mode.

the current brawl is about narrowing the alleged broad church in the libs with some Lib strategists taking a long term view that it is better for Turncoat to lose the next election

[Henry]

Julia Gillard was an awful PM, but you have to respect how she's quietly got on with her life after being ousted by Rudd in 2013. None of the drama queen antics of Rudd in 2010 or Abbott these last few weeks.

[horace]

and speaking of Turncoat, looks like there will be a bit of lickspittle and brown nosing as Charley Big Ears makes yet another unwanted expensive tour to these shores

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-10-14/prince-charles-and-camilla-to-come-to-australia/6852296

[horace]

from the stuff that makes Aussies proud file.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/13/nauru-police-take-phones-and-laptops-from-save-the-children-staff-and-others

[embee]

Julia Gillard was an awful PM, but you have to respect how she's quietly got on with her life after being ousted by Rudd in 2013. None of the drama queen antics of Rudd in 2010 or Abbott these last few weeks.

too busy destroying evidence she doesnt want to get to the TURC

[JGK]

Julia Gillard was an awful PM, but you have to respect how she's quietly got on with her life after being ousted by Rudd in 2013. None of the drama queen antics of Rudd in 2010 or Abbott these last few weeks.

too busy destroying evidence she doesnt want to get to the TURC

Phurt. She did that well before she became PM.

[JGK]

The first public statement by the new Social Services Minister. This is going to go well:

Carer, disability and family payments in sights of new Social Services Minister Christian Porter

October 14, 2015 - 3:28PM

Social Services Minister Christian Porter is on the hunt for savings in his new portfolio, hinting spending cuts on carer and disability payments may be needed to get the budget back to surplus.

In comments that echo his predecessor, Scott Morrison, Mr Porter said on Tuesday night that his portfolio "has to be a contributor to slowing the growth of expenditure down".

Noting that the Department of Social Services spent $137 billion last year - about a third of the federal budget - Mr Porter warned that welfare was growing faster than any "other single budget [area] in government".

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/carer-disability-and-family-payments-in-sights-of-new-social-services-minister-christian-porter-20151014-gk8lq5.html#ixzz3oVtpwq6v
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[embee]

Family Payments ...Yes

Disability and Carer payments ...No ...even though this is rorted worse than Bronny's travel allowance they will at some stage cut someone deserving and the media bullshit will destroy any possible benefit

[horace]

strongly agree re family payments and slicing back middle class welfare

[Big Dog]

from the stuff that makes Aussies proud file.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/13/nauru-police-take-phones-and-laptops-from-save-the-children-staff-and-others

So..the Nauru Police are now Aussies?

[JGK]

Nice sledge from Albo in QT today in reponse to the government bigging itself up on infrastructure:

"The only hole they've dug is the one they buried the former prime minister in."

[Henry]

Typical Labour- Trying to make out that a Prime Minister with money is somehow not to be trusted/relied upon/out of touch with "average Australians"

Any person as rich as Turnbull would be a fool to not take some of that money offshore.

[lardbucket]

Funny, I didn't hear them peddling that line when Rudd was in charge.

However, it's always an effective line when peddled effectively, and one of the reasons why I believe Turnbull will never win an election.

[Henry]

Funny, I didn't hear them peddling that line when Rudd was in charge.

However, it's always an effective line when peddled effectively, and one of the reasons why I believe Turnbull will never win an election.

Therese is the one with the money. I doubt she lets Kev get near a cent of it.....

[horace]

of course the Turncoat led Libs will bolt in the next election...but you are right about the line being peddled. People have short memories. I expect the Rudds could buy and sell Turncoat several times.

[lardbucket]

of course the Turncoat led Libs will bolt in the next election...but you are right about the line being peddled. People have short memories.  I expect the Rudds could buy and sell Turncoat several times.

Maybe you're onto something ... Rudd was Captain Minnesota Gabba Fats Harvey Dan Norman?

[horace]

hehehe....not even Rudd was that pompous

[Paul Keating]

Typical Labour- Trying to make out that a Prime Minister with money is somehow not to be trusted/relied upon/out of touch with "average Australians"

Any person as rich as Turnbull would be a fool to not take some of that money offshore.

On the other hand there are people who claim that Turnbull is a genius who understands the economy because he worked for Goldmans.

FFS I work at a top Euro investment bank and let me assure you the egos that run the place have no idea.

[Paul Keating]

Funny, I didn't hear them peddling that line when Rudd was in charge.

However, it's always an effective line when peddled effectively, and one of the reasons why I believe Turnbull will never win an election.

Lardy,

In all seriousness Turnbull will be PM for another two terms. He will win and win well.

[JGK]

Typical Labour- Trying to make out that a Prime Minister with money is somehow not to be trusted/relied upon/out of touch with "average Australians"

Any person as rich as Turnbull would be a fool to not take some of that money offshore.

On the other hand there are people who claim that Turnbull is a genius who understands the economy because he worked for Goldmans.

FFS I work at a top Euro investment bank and let me assure you the egos that run the place have no idea.

To be fair, Turnbull is one of Australia's most accomplished polymaths. He isn't a typical investment banker (who are generally one trick ponies).

[lardbucket]

Funny, I didn't hear them peddling that line when Rudd was in charge.

However, it's always an effective line when peddled effectively, and one of the reasons why I believe Turnbull will never win an election.

Lardy,

In all seriousness Turnbull will be PM for another two terms. He will win and win well.

You may be right; if so, I will eat my words. I think Shorten will be rolled within 6 months, and Albanese, 'popular politician in touch with the common man', will easily roll Turnbull, 'spoiled rich investment banker'.

[Bradman]

You ever get the feeling it may be personal with lardy?

[horace]

provided the lunar right gargoyles on the back bench stop leaking and undermining Turncoat will have a dream run...Unforch the only way the ALP could ditch Shorten under the new rules is if he chose to resign.

Looks like Smokin will be gifted the ambassador job in Washington which is one fly removed from the ointment...the MM and Andrews will be harder to extricate...The MM will stay and Andrews would only be satisfied with being made Pope.

The big issue is whether Lib angst will translate into pre-selection brawls

[Bradman]

Go now and go quickly. Don't know much about Mal but apperently (the pres keep harping it) he's got two faces and a glass jaw. Would also give the fascisti less time.

[lardbucket]

You ever get the feeling it may be personal with lardy?

In what sense, qmy?

I have never had any personal dealings with Turnbull, but have never liked him, he seems a smarmy and untrustworthy git, and one excessively impressed with himself.

I did have some dealings with Rudd and more particularly one of his minions, 15 - 20 years ago now, and he is a deeply unpleasant and malicious individual unafraid to kick heads and accustomed to systematic bullying. I pity his family.

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