Re: Aus Federal Politics thread (XV)

[Bradman]

Might have been trying for o distance himself from Wren. Then again I don't know where he grew up.

[horace]

Might have been trying for o distance himself from Wren.  Then again I don't know where he grew up.

Carlton always had a strong base in certain parts of the Italian community.

This all reminds me of Mannix - a far more powerful and equally pernicious influence on Oz politics - tho one exception was his opposition to conscription during WW1.

[Bradman]

Opposed to the white Oz policy too, as well as being opposed to the ban the Reds referendum. Still probably doesn't make up for creating BA.

[horace]

Opposed to the white Oz policy too, as well as being opposed to the ban the Reds referendum.  Still probably doesn't make up for creating BA.

True ... far more more powerful in his time than the Pellvert in his pomp.

[Bradman]

Certainly a force of nature. Always been torn between his social activism and the pernicious "Movement".

[horace]

Saw an article (Guardian methinks) where the disparity between the positions taken by ScuMo and Potatohead are extremely divergent.

Dutton is acutely defensive about his own positions on Islam. ScuMo is way more open. Kudos to the latter.

I note Shortpants opined and came across as a complete duplicitous grungebucket.

[skully]

To my Pinko comrades, I am having a snoopy dance regarding the NSW result in anticipation of a Blue hiding at the Feral Election.

Just having some fun before the gloom of 4 to 8 years of Shortarse. [Ugh]

[JGK]

I reckon this was leaked by the LNP:

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/mar/26/one-nations-james-ashby-filmed-lobbying-for-20m-in-nra-donations-to-weaken-australias-gun-laws

[Bradman]

The Nat part of that equation wouldn't have wanted it released. I can think of three seats in Qld where it would hurt them. The Libs in the city would love it.

[Bradman]

The two ON fwits on Bolt blaming dastardly musi gotcha journos, the booze (could be footballers),. their poor understanding of English grammatical construction (good thing they don't have to pass the brownies beloved citizenship test) and refusing to say they did anything wrong.

[horace]

Didn't see the program but read a bit about it during the day. James Ashby makes David Oldfield look like an honest bloke. In it for the moolah.

Still they are small spuds compared to Downer, Woodside and the others. Apparently the Commonwealth is preventing Witness K and co-accused Bernard Collarouy (sp?) look at evidence that will be presented against them. 

An article I read to today informed the A-G is separately represented from the DPP in the case. The Secretary of A-GD was up to his ham hocks in the Timor Leste ASIS fiasco.

[Bradman]

Well from the defendants pov it may be a good thing it's not likely to come to trial (who knows what some rabid judge might or might not order).

Personally I'm torn between it and sovereign borders as the first retaliatory RC. Actually an RC into politically motivated RCs might catch more fish.

About time for another looksee at the intended community anyway.

[horace]

Well from the defendants pov it may be a good thing it's not likely to come to trial (who knows what some rabid judge might or might not order).

Personally I'm torn between it and sovereign borders as the first retaliatory RC.  Actually an RC into politically motivated RCs might catch more fish.

About time for another looksee at the intended community anyway.

Welly, well, well.... surprise, surprise, surprise. Where is Gomer when needed?

An entirely separate story emerges today about financial support Woodside is seeking from the Feds to develop a problematic off-shore oil field in Senegal. These farkers pay more in donations to the Libs and Labs than they do in Corporate Tax.

The Ashby No Notion NRA stuff is odious but small time minimum chips compared to Woodside. How many current Ministers and senior bureaucrats are on the nod with Woodside?

Further it seems the Oz approach to increasing influence in Asia Pacific is linked to a strategy of subsidising major corporates to invest not so much in infrastructure but good old beads and blankets for Manhatten Island tactics ie ExxonMobil Aust in New Guinea.

Give me the Chinese Belt and Road every time. It actually builds infrastructure.

[Bradman]

Well I don't think they pay any corporate tax (weren't they one of the named ones), but no harm in giving the old socialising risk wheel another spin. The feds can only say no.

Senegal would have to have been one of the nicest places I have ever worked and unless things have changed would be a fairly stable investment location
That said seeing it's about as far out as our sphere of influence as farking Mars and the project would be only good for the economy of Senegal and the Cayman Islands this must surely be one of the biggest try-ons in Australian corporate history.
Those qunts at Woodside have really let blatant corporate piracy go to their head.

[skully]

Quite by accident I found this excellent recent presentation on the folly of renewables given by a highly credentialled environmental warrior - Michael Shellenberg (Time Magazine “Hero of the Environment” and energy expert).

He clearly lays out why renewables can't save the planet from climate change and that the clear way forward is nuclear.

I'm guessing Shortarse will dismiss it as numpty nonsense.

[skully]

Oops, double post.

[skully]

Meanwhile, the deluded farkwits of Aus Politics...

"The Greens will propose 2030 as the cut-off point for thermal coal exports, and the shutdown date for Australia’s fleet of coal-fired power stations, in the party’s new climate and energy policy heading into the federal election.
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The party is proposing to phase out thermal coal exports by setting a yearly limit on coal exports from 2020, a set of procedures that would require resources companies to secure permits at auction in order to export product.

The Greens say Renew Australia will determine the timetable for shutting down the coal fleet, but the policy scenarios accompanying its policy puts the cut-off point at 2030."

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So these crystal worshipping pyramid sitters reckon we can power Aus with 100% renewables by 2030. I presume they are proposing that the sun will shine out of their senators' arseholes 24 hours a day to power the solar panels that cover an area the size of Victoria. And they reckon they can just whistle up wind power??

And no more coal exports (our biggest foreign earner) by 2030 will have it's revenue replaced by what? Cow-fart filled balloons?

Dear me, what a pack of deluded weed smoking space cadets.

[Bradman]

This is just their wet dream and impractical and more to the point going nowhere. But considering the advances we made in other fields, prop aircraft to man on the moon in 25 years, medicine and esp electronics we really should be more further advanced in renewables than we are, if only for immediate environmental problems (pollutions of very descriptions).

I'm fine with nuclear but would have preferred the money spent for subsidies on renewables had been used for R&D. Certainly if we could nail battery storage and probably transmission problems and costs, a solar farm in the desert of about 2500 sqm (the size being that of a largish cattle station in the NT) could power the country.

In the meantime neither of the majors is offering anything but words, more money, the odd pipe dream and some small time direct action crap (Thanks for the ERF Tony, nice little earner for what we were going to do anyway).

In short don't give the Greens oxygen, if they ever were to get into or even dramatically hold the balance of power they'd soon realise they need the export money to educate the third world, save the sortsew dragon and blockade Israel.

[skully]

No oxygen from me, Q. The Greens are an embarrassment.

It was more me juxtapositioning the idiocy of the Greens to the well-researched presentation above it, given by a former rabid greeny who has realised that renewables cannot solve climate change dilemmas.

[horace]

well the the toxic Greens are one thing the three of us can agree on.

Until nuclear waste and generation becomes less risky I say keep it in the ground. Perfectly happy to see lots of research go into the area.

[skully]

Alas I won't see nuclear power in Aus in my lifetime. Hopefully my kids' kids do.

The lack of nuclear power in Aus (and many other countries) is a real indictment on the smelly greenies.

[horace]

Not really S. The world just simply needs to research safer means of generation and waste. The Greenies are irrelevant to the issue.

[Bradman]

The waste is problematic only from the green pov. The disposal is pretty solid science, but there's also the NIMBY factor. Sorry, I'm no expert but I got a fairly intense five day crash course in this when they wanted to put the Medi level stuff on Muckaty Station. And that only happened because the most suitable place raised the NIMBY flag. Don't blame SA, even the most pro nuke state govt would baulk at their state
"Don't get us wrong we want nuclear but put the bad shit elsewhere. You know out where the bush abos live"

You're right skulls, it'll be our grandkids living with it or protesting against it

[Bradman]

Bolt and Hanson about to have a love-in on the evils on the evils of gotcha journalism and foreign media influence. FFS Andy never heard of NOTW or seen your boss' citizenship status.

[JGK]

Bolt and Hanson about to have a love-in on the evils on the evils of gotcha journalism and foreign media influence.  FFS Andy never heard of NOTW or seen your boss' citizenship status.

Plus the irony of James Ashby being caught in a sting.

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