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Post by skully Tue 01 Feb 2022, 08:47

Aus might be in line for a new coach...

Not happy, Jan

"Cricket Australia has flatly rejected a meeting with Justin Langer turned sour when talks opened over the coach’s future in the role. In an extraordinary move, CA broke its long-held position of refusing to comment on discussions with Langer as they consider whether to extend his tenure.

Langer is off-contract in June and met with CA’s chief executive Nick Hockley and high performance manager Ben Oliver last Friday. Some media reported the meeting became heated when CA suggested to Langer he may have to reapply for his position.

“While we do not comment on confidential conversations, we felt on this occasion it was important to correct the record,” CA said in a statement on Tuesday. “We reject outright the assertion that the meeting was fiery or heated and that Justin was asked to reapply for his job.
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Langer wants to continue as coach after overseeing a 4-0 Ashes win, preceded by Australia’s maiden Twenty20 World Cup title. But his position beyond June remains in doubt, amid reported ongoing unrest among Australia’s players about his coaching style.
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The West Australian was appointed coach on a four-year deal after Australia’s infamous ball-tampering scandal in South Africa in March 2018, replacing Darren Lehmann who quit at the end of that infamous Test series.

Lehmann recently said Langer should walk from the job, believing four years was long enough for any coach to hold the job. But a host of Langer’s former teammates including Steve Waugh and Ricky Ponting, have called for CA to reappoint Langer, given Australia’s recent successes."


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Smoke...fire?? There's been some noise from this meeting that Langer was indeed asked to reapply for his job. Allegedly he told Hockley and co. to stick it up their arse.

NLWL's record should see him given a renewed contract, but lingering doubts about his relationship with the players still seems to be a sticking point.
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Post by embee Tue 01 Feb 2022, 14:27

Malcolm Conn has been sniping at JL for ages

He was interviewed by Liam Bartlett on 6PR today
He got narky when his motives were questioned


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Post by lardbucket Tue 01 Feb 2022, 19:52

Conn has long had form in this regard.

Picks a target and snipes, undermines, belittles incessantly.

Gutter journalist.


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Post by horace Tue 01 Feb 2022, 20:22

Langer failed to win a Test series abroad and lost to home series v the Bannies.

Having a smart NSP led by Bailey has helped beyond better selections according to the little bits of Vic Premier Crofts Goss I have picked up. No doubt having McDonald a calm tactician with the good red ball coaching record Langer never had at a domestic level has helped as well.

I have no doubt Langer is orchestrating support through old mates.

The ABC Radio reported CA is formally seeking the views of 2nd and Fink. Both are well placed to give a considered view.
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Post by Fred Nerk Tue 01 Feb 2022, 22:24

embee wrote:Malcolm Conn has been sniping at JL for ages

He was interviewed by Liam Bartlett on 6PR today
He got narky when his motives were questioned



And what did the 6PublicRelations bloke suggest the 'Tent's motivation was?

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Post by Fred Nerk Tue 01 Feb 2022, 22:28

horace wrote:Langer failed to win a Test series abroad and lost to home series v the Bannies.

Having a smart NSP led by Bailey has helped beyond better selections according to the little bits of Vic Premier Crofts Goss I have picked up. No doubt having McDonald a calm tactician with the  good red ball coaching record Langer never had at a domestic level has helped as well.

I have no doubt Langer is orchestrating support through old mates.

The ABC Radio reported CA is formally seeking the views of 2nd and Fink. Both are well placed to give a considered view.

I put that thru Babel and apparently it means 'sorry, no known language'

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Post by skully Tue 01 Feb 2022, 23:02

Goss from Dan Andrews Media Adviser Corey Croft??
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Post by embee Wed 02 Feb 2022, 00:24

Fred Nerk wrote:
embee wrote:Malcolm Conn has been sniping at JL for ages

He was interviewed by Liam Bartlett on 6PR today
He got narky when his motives were questioned



And what did the 6PublicRelations bloke suggest the 'Tent's motivation was?

evil dubberness

claimed he was pushing for Bayliss

I think Langer roasted him when Conn was CA media manager ...and Conn is sniping in revenge

CA is handling the situation badly

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Post by embee Wed 02 Feb 2022, 01:17

horace wrote:Langer failed to win a Test series abroad and lost to home series v the Bannies.

Having a smart NSP led by Bailey has helped beyond better selections according to the little bits of Vic Premier Crofts Goss I have picked up. No doubt having McDonald a calm tactician with the  good red ball coaching record Langer never had at a domestic level has helped as well.

I have no doubt Langer is orchestrating support through old mates.

The ABC Radio reported CA is formally seeking the views of 2nd and Fink. Both are well placed to give a considered view.

this could have been written by Conn

exaggerates failure and downplays successes

it dresses opinion up as fact and distorts everything towards a preformed conclusion
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Post by lardbucket Wed 02 Feb 2022, 05:36

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Post by horace Wed 02 Feb 2022, 14:56

skully wrote:Goss from Dan Andrews Media Adviser Corey Croft??



I get taken to watch Premier Cricket Thirds. It used to be called District Cricket.
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Post by embee Thu 03 Feb 2022, 17:43

faint praise for Langer from Cummins
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Post by JGK Fri 04 Feb 2022, 03:27

It seems obvious that he's gone. I can't understand why CA is stringing it out.

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Post by skully Fri 04 Feb 2022, 04:04

JGK wrote:It seems obvious that he's gone.

Seems to be the case. Is JL a victim of player power?
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Post by horace Fri 04 Feb 2022, 06:34

skully wrote:
JGK wrote:It seems obvious that he's gone.

Seems to be the case. Is JL a victim of player power?

His Test record is poor. Not winning an overseas tour and the two losses here to the Bannies. Of course he should go on that alone.

The support for Marsh beggars belief.

When interviewed he does not seem all that bright.
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Post by skully Fri 04 Feb 2022, 10:27

On the Nooz tonight, Hockley was on saying the CA Board met for 8 hours today on the matter (FFS) and agreed to enter into confidential discussions with NLWL. The outcome of these discussions would be released ASAP.

Jesus, what a shithouse handling of this whole affair.
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Post by Blackadder Fri 04 Feb 2022, 21:44

No surprise to anyone CA has been inept in their handling of this.
FWIW it seems Aus appears to be on the upswing after the Bannies disaster.
Three Weeks until a tour to the Wackies for the first time in two decades, imo JL should at least lead the team until then.

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Post by embee Fri 04 Feb 2022, 22:39

skully wrote:On the Nooz tonight, Hockley was on saying the CA Board met for 8 hours today on the matter (FFS) and agreed to enter into confidential discussions with NLWL. The outcome of these discussions would be released ASAP.

Jesus, what a shithouse handling of this whole affair.

The 8 hours also included working out the Shield and ODD seasons and the 'stani tour
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Post by Nath Sat 05 Feb 2022, 00:00

embee wrote:
skully wrote:On the Nooz tonight, Hockley was on saying the CA Board met for 8 hours today on the matter (FFS) and agreed to enter into confidential discussions with NLWL. The outcome of these discussions would be released ASAP.

Jesus, what a shithouse handling of this whole affair.

The 8 hours also included working out the Shield and ODD seasons and the 'stani tour

should have worked harder. where's the warm-up game?

they could have just scrapped the ODD portion (in favour of more Shield games) and no-one would have noticed or cared.
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Post by Blackadder Sat 05 Feb 2022, 00:19

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BREAKING NEWS: Justin Langer has resigned. More to come @australian

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Post by Nath Sat 05 Feb 2022, 00:24

elite resignation
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Post by skully Sat 05 Feb 2022, 01:12

Blackadder wrote:Peter Lalor
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Don't blame him. CA COARIAB.
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Post by lardbucket Sat 05 Feb 2022, 02:12

They’ll give it to the Pommy Dubber, Bayliss.


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Post by horace Sat 05 Feb 2022, 02:15

I wonder if he was offered a reduced role eg coaching the white ball game and giving the Test side to someone else.

The benchmark has to be winning Test series overseas. Fair enough the First Bannies series loss but the second was poor.
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Post by skully Sat 05 Feb 2022, 08:13

lardbucket wrote:They’ll give it to the Pommy Dubber, Bayliss.

My pick would be Dizzy.

Meanwhile, it transpires that CA offered JL a 6 month extension with a guaranteed fark off at the end of it.

Little wonder he resigned. As Glenn Mitchell said on Twitter (thanks to Zat on another medium), potentially he could've won the Wackie series and successfully defended the T20 WC and got sacked as a thank you.
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