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Post by Zat Mon 28 Jan 2008, 02:16

Sehwag went from 99 to 100 when the team score went from 127 to 128.

Is this the lowest Test team score where an opener (or any other batsman) has reached a century?

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Post by skully Mon 28 Jan 2008, 02:52

I can't find a specific reference Zat, but I can't see that being topped. The nearest I can think of was the Nob's monopolising of the scoring in the 5th Test at SCG v Poms in 98/99. When Slater got to his ton, Aus was 150.

Actually, just looked at the very 1st Test. At stumps on day one, Aus was 6-166 with Charlie Bannerman on 126* and Blackham on 3*. Working backwards (Midwinter and Gregory got 5 between them), I reckon Aus must have been around 130 when Bannerman passed 100. Viru probably holds the record.
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Post by Zat Mon 28 Jan 2008, 02:57

I couldn't find anything, and suspected the same, thought you may have had a better source tucked away somewhere.

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Post by skully Mon 28 Jan 2008, 02:58

A bit closer analysis of that first Test score. Cooper was 4th out at 114. The sum of the scores of the 4 dismissed batsmen was 29. Allowing for a couple of extras, Bannerman probably made 83 out of 114 (best case, no extras, he made 85 out of 114). So absolute best case is to add 15 to both Bannermans' score and Aus's total. So when Bannerman reached 100, Aus could have been on 129. But there were 8 extras so you would assume a few of those came before Bannerman got to 100, And no. 6 Midwinter may have scored a couple of runs as well. Either way, Viru did better today.


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Post by skully Mon 28 Jan 2008, 03:00

Zat wrote:I couldn't find anything, and suspected the same, thought you may have had a better source tucked away somewhere.
SBBOCT is comprehensive but not infallible!! Wink
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Post by lardbucket Mon 28 Jan 2008, 08:34

and some of the pages are 'glued' together

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Post by skully Mon 28 Jan 2008, 09:26

Only because I lent it to RD.
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Post by Allan D Tue 29 Jan 2008, 18:01

skully wrote:I can't find a specific reference Zat, but I can't see that being topped. The nearest I can think of was the Nob's monopolising of the scoring in the 5th Test at SCG v Poms in 98/99. When Slater got to his ton, Aus was 150.

Actually, just looked at the very 1st Test. At stumps on day one, Aus was 6-166 with Charlie Bannerman on 126* and Blackham on 3*. Working backwards (Midwinter and Gregory got 5 between them), I reckon Aus must have been around 130 when Bannerman passed 100. Viru probably holds the record.

According to this Oz were 136-4 in the 93rd over when Bannerman reached his ton with Midwinter at the other end. The slow strike rate was offset by the over rate since England bowled 115 overs in the first day alone!:


The Very First Test: Bannerman's Miracle

We should also remember Graham Gooch's 154* out of 252 against the Windies at Headingley in 1991 (next top scorers Ramprakash & Pringle both with 27). This third innings knock was as remarkable in many ways as Botham's 149* a decade earlier on the same ground in setting up an unlikely win and it was certainly GG's finest hour. Probably the most remarkable innings to save a match was Dennis Amiss' second innings effort of 262* out of 432-9 at Sabina Park in February 1974 which took 570 minutes, 563 balls with one six and 40 fours with the next top scorer John Jameson with 38. Only an improbable 53-minute undefeated 3 by Bob Willis (who was to defy an even stronger West Indian attack six years later at The Oval) prevented Amiss from becoming the highest-scoring player to carry his bat.
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Post by Basil Tue 29 Jan 2008, 18:11

Not in a test, but just as notable - Glenn Turner once scored 145 out of a total of 169 when playing for Worcestershire one time.
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Post by lardbucket Tue 29 Jan 2008, 19:17

Basil wrote:Not in a test, but just as notable - Glenn Turner once scored 145 out of a total of 169 when playing for Worcestershire one time.

Scoring must have been sub-funereal at the other end; Turner was no dasher.

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Post by Basil Tue 29 Jan 2008, 21:12

lardbucket wrote:
Basil wrote:Not in a test, but just as notable - Glenn Turner once scored 145 out of a total of 169 when playing for Worcestershire one time.

Scoring must have been sub-funereal at the other end; Turner was no dasher.

He had his moments - 300 in a day against Warwickshire to name but one.
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Post by Allan D Tue 29 Jan 2008, 21:18

The lowest completed first-class innings to include a fifty is Indians' 66 against Yorkshire at Harrogate in 1932, to which Nazir Ali contributed 52 (78.79%) and his partners just 9 (there were 5 extras).

The lowest completed first-class innings to include a century is Nottinghamshire's 143 against Hampshire at Bournemouth in 1981, to which Clive Rice contributed 105* (73.4%) and his partners just 35 (there were 3 extras).

The lowest completed first-class innings to include a double-century is Gloucestershire's 298 against Glamorgan at Newport in 1956, to which Tom Graveney contributed 200 (67.11%) and his partners just 84 (there were 14 extras).

The lowest completed first-class innings to include a triple century is the Rest's 387 against Hindus at Bombay in 1943-44, to which Vijay Hazare contributed 309 (79.84%) and his partners just 59 (there were 19 extras).

The lowest completed first-class total to include a score of 350 is Otago's 500 against Canterbury at Christchurch in 1952-53, to which opener Bert Sutcliffe contributed 385 (77.0%) and his partners just 86 (there were 29 extras).

The highest percentage of runs scored in any completed innings is 83.43% by Glenn Turner who scored 141* out of Worcestershire's 169 against Glamorgan at Swansea in 1977. The remaining batsmen scored 27 and there was one extra.

Thanks to Wiki.

Actually Turner was one of those players whose game was much improved by limited-over cricket and in the inaugural World Cup in 1975 at Edgbaston he hit 171*, admittedly against the East Africans (including Derek Pringle's dad), which was the then record score for an ODI and stood for 8 years until Kapil Dev overtook it in the 1983 World Cup against Zimbabwe.
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Post by WideWally Wed 30 Jan 2008, 16:10

There is an ICC Continental Cup match (first class) in progress between Namibia & Kenya. At the moment Gerrie Snyman (Namibia) is 194 not out in a total of 241/8. Must be a good chance of breaking that record for lowest FC score to include a double century.
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Post by Zat Wed 30 Jan 2008, 22:07

What a scorecard!
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 Namibia 2nd innings                        R  B  4s 6s SR 
 AJ Burger c DO Obuya b Ongondo            5  12  1  0  41.66 
 DH Botha lbw b Odoyo                      0  2  0  0  0.00 
 R van Schoor c Odhiambo b Ongondo          7  21  0  0  33.33 
 G Snyman not out                        194 177 18  9  109.60 
 LJ Burger c DO Obuya b Odhiambo            4  29  0  0  13.79 
 BL Kotze st DO Obuya b Varaiya            7  23  1  0  30.43 
 T Verwey c Suji b Tikolo                  1  4  0  0  25.00 
 M Durant c Ongondo b CO Obuya            13 140  1  0  9.28 
 W Slabber c Odhiambo b CO Obuya            1  8  0  0  12.50 
    Extras (b 3, lb 1, w 1, nb 4)          9     
     
    Total (8 wickets; 68.4 overs) 241 (3.50 runs per over)

And despite Durant scoring 13 off 140 balls, they still managed to go at 3.5 an over!

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Post by WideWally Thu 31 Jan 2008, 11:08

Snyman dismissed for 230 & Namibia all out for 282.
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Post by skully Thu 31 Jan 2008, 11:11

Got a scorecard Wally. I would love to see the FoW.
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Post by freddled gruntbuggly Thu 31 Jan 2008, 11:12

Have England signed him yet?
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Post by WideWally Thu 31 Jan 2008, 11:17

skully wrote:Got a scorecard Wally. I would love to see the FoW.

http://content-aus.cricinfo.com/icccont2007/engine/match/319149.html

Kenya collapsing in their 2nd innings. Looks like they're Burgered.
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Post by skully Thu 31 Jan 2008, 11:18

Never mind, got it myself:

Code:
Namibia 2nd innings                R  B  4s  6s    SR 
AJ Burger c DO Obuya b Ongondo      5  12  1  0  41.66 
DH Botha lbw b Odoyo                0  2  0  0    0.00 
R van Schoor c Odhiambo b Ongondo  7  21  0  0  33.33 
G Snyman b CO Obuya              230 201 22  11  114.42 
LJ Burger c DO Obuya b Odhiambo    4  29  0  0  13.79 
BL Kotze st DO Obuya b Varaiya      7  23  1  0  30.43 
T Verwey c Suji b Tikolo            1  4  0  0  25.00 
M Durant c Ongondo b CO Obuya      13 140  1  0    9.28 
W Slabber c Odhiambo b CO Obuya    1  8  0  0  12.50 
KB Burger c & b Kamande            3  14  0  0  21.42 
L Klazinga not out                  2  4  0  0  50.00 
Extras (b 3, lb 1, w 1, nb 4)      9     
     
Total (all out; 76.5 overs)      282 (3.67 runs per over)


Fall of wickets1-1 (Botha), 2-9 (AJ Burger), 3-18 (van Schoor),
4-42 (LJ Burger), 5-98 (Kotze), 6-105 (Verwey), 7-238 (Durant),
8-241 (Durant), 9-270 (KB Burger), 10-282 (Snyman, 76.5 ov)

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Post by freddled gruntbuggly Thu 31 Jan 2008, 11:20

Why did they have to get Durant out twice?
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Post by skully Thu 31 Jan 2008, 11:21

WideWally wrote:Kenya collapsing in their 2nd innings. Looks like they're Burgered.
Aye. KB Burger (a lovely combo) took 9-105. Good on the Namibians. What chance Snyman gets a County contract??!! Laughing
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Post by skully Thu 31 Jan 2008, 11:23

freddled gruntbuggly wrote:Why did they have to get Durant out twice?
Cos he's an obstinate burger. And Crocinfo are farked.
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Post by skully Thu 31 Jan 2008, 11:24

Jebus, Namibia have 3 Burgers and a Slabber. Farkin party animals.
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Post by freddled gruntbuggly Thu 31 Jan 2008, 11:28

skully wrote:Jebus, Namibia have 3 Burgers and a Slabber. Farkin party animals.
Damn. You just beat me to that, skully.
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
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Post by skully Thu 31 Jan 2008, 11:30

Cheers tails, I'll raise a glass or several to that. [clink] drunken

And Kotze and Klazinga sound like exotic beers as well.
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