Sheffield Shield 2023-2024

Meanwhile, the Spivs are cementing their place as cellar dwellers in the Shield this year as they plummet towards defeat v shitty Barrels.

Nathan McAndrew again doing the damage.

Nath wrote:

lardbucket wrote:Bancroft and Whiteman made it almost halfway to the Tas score before they were separated …

This will end as a draw. If Whiteman makes 200 plus that could stimulate the selectors, especially with the first Test being played in Perth.

he could make 500, they're not picking him

I recall Dean Jones (IIRC) and Geoff Marsh (certainly) making 300 plus in the Shield AFTER being dropped from the Test side, without swaying the selectors towards recall.

Do you’re probably right; file marked. I did think that about Chris Rogers, Simon Katich, and Usman Khawaja in the past, though, and was wrong on each occasion.

skully wrote:Meanwhile, the Spivs are cementing their place as cellar dwellers in the Shield this year as they plummet towards defeat v shitty Barrels.

Nathan McAndrew again doing the damage.

we're on the bottom. battle of "who sucks least" between Vic and NSW next round

Yeah, it's a race to the bottom between Spice and Vomits, Nath.

Are you trying to predict the topbottom team?

WA trying to snatch a win over the Tassies; 7 wickets in the past session would do it.

lardbucket wrote:And there’s a bloke with a Test batting average of 144 who has completely lost his way.

And his fall is complete. Kurtis Patterson has been dropped from the Spiv side.

Been expecting that. He’s done nothing.

Speaking if flashes-in-the-pan … where’s Maddinson?

Nic Maddinson did an ACL earlier this year and is still in recovery mode.

Tomorrow, tomorrow, and tomorrow ...

SA v WA (top of the table clash)
TAS v QLD (another top of the table clash)
VIC v NSW (cellar-dwellers rivalry)

lardbucket wrote:Tomorrow, tomorrow, and tomorrow ...

SA v WA (top of the table clash)
TAS v QLD (another top of the table clash)
VIC v NSW (cellar-dwellers rivalry)

Your explanation says heaps about why first class cricket in Oz has plumbed new depths

Significant performances:

SA v WA: 50s for Bancroft & Cartwright, Wes Agar 6-42!

Tas v QLD: Burns 127*, Neser 50+ *, Clayton 96

VIC v NSW: Harris a golden globe, Pucovski 30ish.

Not much to excite the selectors. Neser and Bancroft may have enhanced their chances slightly j think Marcus Harris is gone.

Good fightback by the Vix to have the Spivs 5/49. Golden gozzer to Reeks FFS.

Fergus ONeill has 3 and Perry 2.

Other games - Jellybacks 4/81 and giving advantage back to the Worsties. Paris has all the wickets.

The Billies are finally out. A family issue forced Neser out of the game. Thoughts with him.

Neser becomes the 4th player in Shield history to be retired out.

he had some family emergency and so left the match overnight.

JGK wrote:Neser becomes the 4th player in Shield history to be retired out.

he had some family emergency and so left the match overnight.

I actually remember Graeme Watson doing this in 71-72 in his first game for WA, v QLD, for about 145. Was he the most recent?

The Watson incident related to a catch in the gully by Don Allen off Warwick Neville. Watson thought it was a clean catch and walked off. The fieldsman & all his teammates thought it was a fair catch but bizarrely the umpires told Watson at the end of the day that he had not been caught and that he was "retired out". If they thought that, why that didn't they tell him before he left the field?

lardbucket wrote:

JGK wrote:Neser becomes the 4th player in Shield history to be retired out.

he had some family emergency and so left the match overnight.

I actually remember Graeme Watson doing this in 71-72 in his first game for WA, v QLD, for about 145. Was he the most recent?

The Shield's playing conditions allows for the replacement of players as a concussion substitute, or if called up for national duty.

The later happened to Victoria twice in a Shield match against Tasmania in 2016 when Marcus Stoinis and then James Pattinson were withdrawn by CA mid-match for matches in New Zealand.

The playing conditions allow for replacements of that nature, but no such provisions exist for a voluntary withdrawal and a replacement for personal circumstances could see the match lose first-class status.

How shit are the Spivs?

Nath wrote:

lardbucket wrote:

JGK wrote:Neser becomes the 4th player in Shield history to be retired out.

he had some family emergency and so left the match overnight.

I actually remember Graeme Watson doing this in 71-72 in his first game for WA, v QLD, for about 145. Was he the most recent?

The Shield's playing conditions allows for the replacement of players as a concussion substitute, or if called up for national duty.

The later happened to Victoria twice in a Shield match against Tasmania in 2016 when Marcus Stoinis and then James Pattinson were withdrawn by CA mid-match for matches in New Zealand.

The playing conditions allow for replacements of that nature, but no such provisions exist for a voluntary withdrawal and a replacement for personal circumstances could see the match lose first-class status.

In the mid 80s Queensland medium pacer John Maguire was called up for Oz mid-match and was replaced by a 'medium pace all rounder' called Michael Maranta. As MM batted #4 for his club and bowled #7 or 8, it was typically devious pre-first-Shield Bjelkies semantic gymnastics to call him a bowler at all. Qld were heading for an innings defeat at the time. The 'like for like' provisions were tightened right up in the aftermath.

Actually, Michael Maranta regularly opened the bowling for his club side, Wests. He took 156 first grade wickets for them. However, he also batted in the top order for them so was a much superior batsman to Maguire. So, at First Grade Club level, he was a genuine all-rounder, top-order batsman & important member of the attack. But at Sheffield Shield level, he was not up the required level at either discipline. Some might suggest that a touch of nepotism was involved.

Barry …

WideWally wrote:The Watson incident related to a catch in the gully by Don Allen off Warwick Neville. Watson thought it was a clean catch and walked off. The fieldsman & all his teammates thought it was a fair catch but bizarrely the umpires told Watson at the end of the day that he had not been caught and that he was "retired out". If they thought that, why that didn't they tell him before he left the field?

according to WACUA folklore 

Jim Darcy Evans was the umpire 

He did tell him and Watson kept walking. Watson may have offered some advice to JDE 

Darcy Evans made a point of seeking out the scorers and making sure the dismissal went down as retired out  

The way it was told to me I got the sense that JDE may have been a silly old qunt

I remember the incident well and at the time print media reported that Watson was told - before leaving the centre wicket - that the catch had not been taken. He left anyway, whether hurt, exhausted, ill, or simply had enough I could not say. My recollection is that the umpire gave him out and Allen called him back saying the catch had not been taken, but he went anyway.

Marty - your info about the umpire being a clueless twat makes the incident a little easier to understand.

Horrie - has Boland been injured?

lardbucket wrote:Horrie - has Boland been injured?

CA "managed" him.