Microsoft planning to buy Yahoo

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So next thing all you Yahoo users with fake Windows will be outed and cast into cyberlimbo.

I feel its a dumb move. one loser buying a poorer loser.

*Buckaroo* wrote:I feel its a dumb move. one loser buying a poorer loser.

Hmm, I don't get your definition of Microsoft as a "loser". Is it something like calling someone who deliberately flies a plane into a building a "coward"?

yahoo emails "new" active look was so crappy I just use their old interface.

looks like its time to shift all my old emails out of yahoo, nobody knows how the "integration" is going to work with so many Ivy league MBAs (sic) crowding into the wheelhouse.

I am launching my raft off the stern and heading for other shores...

mynah wrote:

*Buckaroo* wrote:I feel its a dumb move. one loser buying a poorer loser.

Hmm, I don't get your definition of Microsoft as a "loser". Is it something like calling someone who deliberately flies a plane into a building a "coward"?

I wonder why MSFT is wasting their $ bidding highly for a losing co like Yahoo? far better to have let it descend into irrelevance or take down some other bidders money.

If they think folding all the yahoo mail and yahoo chat subscribers into their Msft family is going to help...its just following the throughly discredited "eyeballs" model.

GOOG must be rotflmao.

You're leaving them in the same way you left us?

Bill Gates must be shitting himself with worry...

No, that would be if Buckaroo approved of the plans.

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So next thing all you Yahoo users with fake Windows will be outed and cast into cyberlimbo.

Hah. There would still be gmail and rediff.

But then Yahoo would get really shot. Just like Hotmail got after Microsoft took over.

Dello wrote:You're leaving them in the same way you left us?

those plans I reversed after watching the excitement in the dingo camp and Skully contratulating his 'team' for a work well done.

But I would have to leave though because the project I am working on has officially entered the death march today after months of faulty planning, management driven as opposed to engineer driven work estimates, reliance on third class & woeful system functional specs written by phoney "architects" and a cavalier disregard for the overall system quality in favour of "stud" behaviour like hacking code with no proper design or test plan in mind. managers who have never managed products with big customer revenue run the show, believing that "speed is life" while in reality customers esp the rich and bad-tempered ones do not mind some lateness as a tradeoff for stability and quality.

We troops have been asked to row faster (we are half-dead at the current pace already) and report on weekends until further notice with dark hints being dropped about the price of disobedience to the new decree from above.

It seems the world is run by the inmates of Arkham Asylum while the rest of humanity wanders around coping with the fallout as best as they can.

*Buckaroo* wrote:But I would have to leave though because the project I am working on has officially entered the death march today after months of faulty planning, management driven as opposed to engineer driven work estimates, reliance on third class & woeful system functional specs written by phoney "architects" and a cavalier disregard for the overall system quality in favour of "stud" behaviour like hacking code with no proper design or test plan in mind. managers who have never managed products with big customer revenue run the show, believing that "speed is life" while in reality customers esp the rich and bad-tempered ones do not mind some lateness as a tradeoff for stability and quality.

So you are working with Microsoft?

No, much smaller fish. telecom

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_march_%28software_development%29

*Buckaroo* wrote:

Dello wrote:You're leaving them in the same way you left us?

those plans I reversed after watching the excitement in the dingo camp and Skully contratulating his 'team' for a work well done.

What's Zat's graemlin got to do with it?

*Buckaroo* wrote:

No, much smaller fish. telecom

The knowledge of the doomed nature of the project weighs heavily on the psyche of its participants, as if they are helplessly watching the team as it marches into the sea. Often, the death march will involve desperate attempts to right the course of the project by asking team members to work especially grueling hours, weekends (sometimes with a straight face), or by attempting to "throw (enough) bodies at the problem" with varying results, often causing burnout.

Change your job. Heads will roll either way.

No way is putting in more hands and more hours going to translate into any faster productivity, better design solutions and time management. The original estimated man hours, elapsed time factors and cost overruns have anyways been turned on it's head and inside out and abused. No one is going to make it count at such a stage by redrawing and re-estimating. Adding more hands and long hours will only make it more complex and confusing with faulty design, useless testing, mis-management, lack of sensible documentation specs and guidelines and all that poo that has been allowed to 'develop'.

This is only a recipe for creating more bugs and creating more messes at fixing the shit.

Jump the ship. Or prepare to sink. If it is doomed to fail as You say your management anticipates, then everyone will be made to walk the plank much sooner than later.

Management these days is all about getting 20 people to do the work of 5 anyways.

I printed the wiki entry and showed it my ex (she is in hr), had a good laugh about the impending implosion and the scapegoating and coverups that will go around to blame the low level engineers for the mess.

Some will inevitably get permanent health & mental damage..as it is 75% of ITvity suffers from some form of low-to-medium grade mental illness. pawns and stepping stones for the higher ups to bag their coveted positions and bonuses....

You have an ex in here? On this forum? Who? Is it an irony or an Aussie?



Has she put you on Ignore too?

yeah Bat .. I'm on everyone's ignore .. lucky me.

I can snatch a few moments for myself and talk to oneself and no one suspects any kind of mind issues. .

btw Motorola is looking to sell its cellphone division. they have not had a hit after Razr and lag badly in advanced phones. dropped to #3 last year behind nokia and samsung.

another american icon for sale but with so many issues...

*Buckaroo* wrote: btw Motorola is looking to sell its cellphone division. they have not had a hit after Razr and lag badly in advanced phones. dropped to #3 last year behind nokia and samsung.

another american icon for sale but with so many issues...

Then get hired by them if there are still any openings. Just a matter of time before an Indian telecom major like Reliance, Tata or Bharti buys them up.

And you still haven't answered my question? Who is the ex?

Not anyone on this forum.

On a related track....US also tremendously increased M3 money supply to the extent where they stopped reporting it couple of years back. yet inflation was kept in check 'somehow' ... people soaked up the easy credit by cashing out on their home equity.

going fwd I see the lifestyle of the US middle class contracting by atleast 20% before this is over. that kinda means all the discretionary spending like cruise line vacations, vegas, luxury brands, high end restaurants, electronic toys are going to feel pain.

*Buckaroo* wrote:But I would have to leave though because the project I am working on has officially entered the death march today after months of faulty planning, management driven as opposed to engineer driven work estimates, reliance on third class & woeful system functional specs written by phoney "architects" and a cavalier disregard for the overall system quality in favour of "stud" behaviour like hacking code with no proper design or test plan in mind. managers who have never managed products with big customer revenue run the show, believing that "speed is life" while in reality customers esp the rich and bad-tempered ones do not mind some lateness as a tradeoff for stability and quality.

We troops have been asked to row faster (we are half-dead at the current pace already) and report on weekends until further notice with dark hints being dropped about the price of disobedience to the new decree from above.

It seems the world is run by the inmates of Arkham Asylum while the rest of humanity wanders around coping with the fallout as best as they can.

Aren't half the projects initiated like that?

Most managers want to meet the project deadline than worry abt the quality of work.

My last project, we did the actual coding first and from that we designed our functional & technical specs. The manager was an absolute tosser who didn't know wtf was happening and didn't care, as long as we met the ridiculous deadline and not spend lot of money in the process.

If the antitrust laws in any of the relevant jurisdiction are to be of any value, it is hard to see such a takeover being allowed.

One way to beat anti-trust laws: lure the employees who matter away from the company you'd have liked to buy ?