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Post by HH_pink Wed 05 Mar 2008, 04:19

Oops, sorery, that was unintentional. I must really be becoming ike horrie.
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Post by embee Wed 05 Mar 2008, 04:20

Series results

Under-19s World Cup

Series/Tournament Season Winner Margin
McDonald's Bicentennial Youth World Cup 1987/88 Australia YC
ICC Under-19 World Cup 1997/98 Eng U19s
ICC Under-19 World Cup 1999/00 India U19s
ICC Under-19 World Cup 2001/02 Aus U19s
ICC Under-19 World Cup 2003/04 Pak U19s
ICC Under-19 World Cup 2005/06 Pak U19s
ICC Under-19 World Cup 2007/08 India U19s

Does winning an U/19 World Cup have any correlation to having a successful Senior team?
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Post by G.Wood Wed 05 Mar 2008, 04:22

yes no no yes no no no
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Post by skully Wed 05 Mar 2008, 04:24

WRT the thread title (sorry, couldn't be @rsed reading through all 7 pages) the answer IMHO is "absolutely".
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Post by HH_pink Wed 05 Mar 2008, 04:27

G.Wood wrote:yes no no yes no no no

Shouldn't the first one be "no" too? Or did any of those players play in the senior team during the recent decade-and-a-half long Australian dominance period?
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Post by G.Wood Wed 05 Mar 2008, 04:31

HH_pink wrote:
G.Wood wrote:yes no no yes no no no

Shouldn't the first one be "no" too? Or did any of those players play in the senior team during the recent decade-and-a-half long Australian dominance period?

Allan Mullaly was in the squad and he certainly aided the decade and half of dominance
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Post by embee Wed 05 Mar 2008, 04:39

Having a quick look through the records

Clarke
Watson
Law
Johnson
Hauritz
Mullally

are the Oz U/19 World Cup players to graduate to Test cricket ...a lot made it to FC level...any others must have been crap at the WC


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Post by G.Wood Wed 05 Mar 2008, 04:40

oops


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Post by SG Wed 05 Mar 2008, 04:40

horace wrote:
SG wrote:The way he sooked about him being valued at lower price in IPL, fat chance of this happening,

Over the next days Ponting would do well to tear up his contract with the Indian Premier League and book some time at his favourite Sydney golf club. The last thing Ponting needs is more cricket.

The contract fee of $400,000 he would have to surrender would be worth it for the peace of mind he cannot get at the moment.

...he actually made jokes about it...
So everytime he sooks he is basically joking?

I got to know something I didn't know before.

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Post by embee Wed 05 Mar 2008, 04:50

SG wrote:
horace wrote:
SG wrote:The way he sooked about him being valued at lower price in IPL, fat chance of this happening,

Over the next days Ponting would do well to tear up his contract with the Indian Premier League and book some time at his favourite Sydney golf club. The last thing Ponting needs is more cricket.

The contract fee of $400,000 he would have to surrender would be worth it for the peace of mind he cannot get at the moment.

...he actually made jokes about it...
So everytime he sooks he is basically joking?

I got to know something I didn't know before.

SG

The newspapers put a sooking spin on the comments ....if you saw Ponting when he made the comments they were said in a joking mood ...Unfortunately for Punter he has such a seemingly short fuse the negative spin is what is believed ...Of course the joking mood could have been a facade but it didn't appear that way
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Post by SG Wed 05 Mar 2008, 04:57

Fair enough, embee.

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Post by Batman Wed 05 Mar 2008, 07:35

I recall Punter also joking and saying that his low biding must be a result of his ongoing piss form...

Not exactly a sook like saying - "Boo Hoo....Looky Roy getting the moolah, Boo Hoo, I can't be below names like Karthik, Akhter, D Hussey, UMB, Tiwary, Uthappa, White, Morkel, Raina....FFS, but how many farking tests have these jokers played?."

I don't really think he has had a sook about the low bidding price yet. Dissapointment surely, and thats natural of course.
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Post by apres dix ans Wed 05 Mar 2008, 08:31

Since the first match of the tour (the first test) finished the two sides have appeared fairly evenly matched with India looking slightly the better team overall.

The replacements for McGrath, Warne, Langer (and now Gilchrist) are not in the same class so i imagine we can expect closer contests in future.

Although this will be generally good for world cricket i hope the evening out does't happen purely because Aussie standards drop. There has been a shortage of exceptional talent coming forward this millenium - how many of the players that will probably be called great have started their test careers since Jan 1, 2000?

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Post by OP Tipping Wed 05 Mar 2008, 08:35

If India can get their fielding skills up to scratch, there'll be no stopping them.
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Post by skully Wed 05 Mar 2008, 08:51

apres dix ans wrote:Since the first match of the tour (the first test) finished the two sides have appeared fairly evenly matched with India looking slightly the better team overall.

The replacements for McGrath, Warne, Langer (and now Gilchrist) are not in the same class so i imagine we can expect closer contests in future.

Although this will be generally good for world cricket i hope the evening out does't happen purely because Aussie standards drop. There has been a shortage of exceptional talent coming forward this millenium - how many of the players that will probably be called great have started their test careers since Jan 1, 2000?
A pretty decent post.
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Post by OP Tipping Wed 05 Mar 2008, 08:55

"how many of the players that will probably be called great have started their test careers since Jan 1, 2000?"

It's possible that MEK Hussey will be considered great, once the dust settles.

But don't quote me.
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Post by skully Wed 05 Mar 2008, 09:00

apres dix ans wrote:There has been a shortage of exceptional talent coming forward this millenium - how many of the players that will probably be called great have started their test careers since Jan 1, 2000?
Aye. But then again the late 80s and 90s turned up some truly exceptional players by the great game's high standards. Lara, SRT, Ponting (?), Warne, McGrath, Ambrose, Walsh, Wasim and *cough* Chuck, is a really hard stable to follow.
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Post by HH_pink Wed 05 Mar 2008, 09:13

What happened to all the "Clark is the next McGrath"?
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Post by skully Wed 05 Mar 2008, 09:15

Not something I've said Pinky. Gump certainly fills the "tie-up-one-end-and-winkle-a-few-out-with-cutters" role but he ain't no Pidge.
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Post by tac Wed 05 Mar 2008, 09:25

He's better than that, skully. 68 wickets @ 21 in 15 matches. Considering he didn't take any wickets in Adelaide he still took 14 @ 28 against the "best batting line up ever in world cricket".
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Post by doremi Wed 05 Mar 2008, 09:28

14 @ 28? And here I was predicting he'd end up as the top wicket taker for Australia before the series began.
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Post by HH_pink Wed 05 Mar 2008, 09:29

He was outbowleed.
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Post by apres dix ans Wed 05 Mar 2008, 09:31

Even though their test careers started recently, Hussey and Clark would hardly be counted as products of the 3rd millenium.

Pietersen maybe and there are any number of hopefuls such as Pathan, Smith, Bravo and Clarke but we're still waiting for the next Wasim, Lara or Warne (Flintoff nearly got there i suppose, damned ankle).

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Post by doremi Wed 05 Mar 2008, 09:32

I doubt Pathan will ever get up there.
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Post by Brass Monkey Wed 05 Mar 2008, 09:35

apres dix ans wrote:Even though their test careers started recently, Hussey and Clark would hardly be counted as products of the 3rd millenium.

Pietersen maybe and there are any number of hopefuls such as Pathan, Smith, Bravo and Clarke but we're still waiting for the next Wasim, Lara or Warne (Flintoff nearly got there i suppose, damned ankle).

**snigger** Yeah.
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