Will Saffies do what the Aussies couldn't ??

Lara Lara Laughs wrote:Tendulkar will probably never face Steyn, Morkel and Ntini again. Convenient....

i agree. steyn and co. should be happy

Brass Monkey wrote:

Red wrote:Well Boycott did it to avoid Lillian Thomson.

Pffffffffffttttttt. He did it because he was an uber-arrogant selfish sook who thought he was 'big balls crew' for captain and fell to the floor crying like a spanked child when Mike Denness was made captain.

Get a clue, you tranny.

He actually spat it well before Denness was appointed, Danny ... check out the 1972 Ashes series scoreboards. Illingworth was still captain, then Tony Lewis had a stint overseas ... Boycott sat out throughout that time, after a poor series in 1971 at home v India.

Perhaps Geoffrey just wasn't very well in the head from about 1971-78.

lardbucket wrote:


He actually spat it well before Denness was appointed, Danny ... check out the 1972 Ashes series scoreboards. Illingworth was still captain, then Tony Lewis had a stint overseas ... Boycott sat out throughout that time, after a poor series in 1971 at home v India.

Perhaps Geoffrey just wasn't very well in the head from about 1971-78.

Aye perhaps Lardo-agogo, I'm not totally au fait with Boycott's boycotts. Facts are, it was a 30 Test period when he apparently 'dodged' Lillian T. They didn't play those boys all of that time. Happy coincidence, yeah for jubille sherberts and hand-waving mimes.

lardbucket wrote:

Brass Monkey wrote:

Red wrote:Well Boycott did it to avoid Lillian Thomson.

Pffffffffffttttttt. He did it because he was an uber-arrogant selfish sook who thought he was 'big balls crew' for captain and fell to the floor crying like a spanked child when Mike Denness was made captain.

Get a clue, you tranny.

He actually spat it well before Denness was appointed, Danny ... check out the 1972 Ashes series scoreboards. Illingworth was still captain, then Tony Lewis had a stint overseas ... Boycott sat out throughout that time, after a poor series in 1971 at home v India.

Perhaps Geoffrey just wasn't very well in the head from about 1971-78.

Boycott, Edrich, Illingworth and Snow all made themselves unavailable for the tour to India in 1972/73. I don't think you can single him out.

As for the Ashes series in 1972, I think Boycott picked up an injury after the second test.

I don't know why he spat it. He was just coming off a very successful 1970-71 Ashes tour, where he missed the 7th test and (very narrowly) a tour runs record held by Hammond after McKenzie broke his arm in a WA game (not enough to get McKenzie back in the Test team - they chose Dell instead) ... then he ran into trouble against Solkar and Abid-Ali in 1971, and spat it around that time. There was a series against Pakistan that year as well ... Jameson and Hutton had brief stints opening. Boycott just dropped off the Test radar for a few years. Luckhurst came and went, Edrich soldiered on, Amiss looked great for a while, Lloyd started in a blaze of glory but faded after playing Thommo with his todger, and even Randall had a crack at opening IIRC before Boycott finally came back on a regular basis.

You know I'm too lazy to look all this up so there will be some errors in the above.

John Jameson. Whatta waster.... sorry TAYPOC.

lardbucket wrote:I don't know why he spat it. He was just coming off a very successful 1970-71 Ashes tour, where he missed the 7th test and (very narrowly) a tour runs record held by Hammond after McKenzie broke his arm in a WA game (not enough to get McKenzie back in the Test team - they chose Dell instead) ... then he ran into trouble against Solkar and Abid-Ali in 1971, and spat it around that time. There was a series against Pakistan that year as well ... Jameson and Hutton had brief stints opening. Boycott just dropped off the Test radar for a few years. Luckhurst came and went, Edrich soldiered on, Amiss looked great for a while, Lloyd started in a blaze of glory but faded after playing Thommo with his todger, and even Randall had a crack at opening IIRC before Boycott finally came back on a regular basis.

You know I'm too lazy to look all this up so there will be some errors in the above.

Being moved up the order to open was the making of Amiss (until he came across Lillee and Thompson) It was move born out of desperation - he was on the tour to India and Pakistan and couldn't buy a run coming in at four - once he started opening, he scored runs for fun for the best part of 18 months.

Lloyd had one good test against India, which got him on the 1974/75 tour - he was bollocks in the series against Pakistan, which preceded it.

And lets'not forget Barry Wood - 90 odd on debut against Australia - complete pants on the tour to India, and largely forgotten therafter apart from the odd test in 1975 and 1976.

Wood was a good player, and I haven't forgotten Woolmer either, though he came a little later.

lardbucket wrote:Wood was a good player, and I haven't forgotten Woolmer either, though he came a little later.

Aye, he probably got a rough deal off the selectors. How Luckhurst got on the plane ahead of him in 1974/75 I shall never know. He wasn't even the official reserve - that was Mike Harris IIRC Fat lot of good that did him though! when the shoite hit the fan, it was Colin Cowdrey who got the call.

Poor old Roy Virgin and Alan Jones missed out altogether (the ROW Test that was later revoked must really have hurt) and Prideaux only got one game IIRC ... while Jameson, R Hutton, Lloyd, and Brearley all got their turn. Not to mention later wasters like Stephenson, Curtis, Lathwell, Larkins et al.

Read somewhere on the trouble Boycott had against Solkar who I understand was military medium at best. After falling couple of times to Solakar Boycs kept snarling at Solkar "wait till the series is over". And when Solkar got him again for the last time Solkar asked Boycs "Is the series over now ?". Obvisouly Boycs could do nothing more than tuck his bat under his armpit, lower his gaze and head back to the pavillion.

Josh Carney wrote:Read somewhere on the trouble Boycott had against Solkar who I understand was military medium at best. After falling couple of times to Solakar Boycs kept snarling at Solkar "wait till the series is over". And when Solkar got him again for the last time Solkar asked Boycs "Is the series over now ?". Obvisouly Boycs could do nothing more than tuck his bat under his armpit, lower his gaze and head back to the pavillion.

You would have to know what was going inside Boycott's head to understand why he turned his back on England at the that time - he certainly was no fan of Mike Denness who was captain at the time. But if every player who was pissed off with their skipper refused to play - we would end up with an eight-a-side game for most matches.

But it's an urban myth to suggest that he hid himself away because he was scared of fast bowling. If that was the case, why did he tour the West Indies in 1980/81?

"Lloyd had one good test against India, which got him on the 1974/75 tour - he was bollocks in the series against Pakistan, which preceded it."

......and nearly devoid of same after tangling with Thommo in Australia, no wonder his career ground to a bit of a halt thereafter.

Boycott may have been not much of a fan of Denness, but they were Hayden and Langer compared with His Geoffreyship and Tony Greig.

He didn't come back until the MCC appointed a captain he approved of. Which means he was an arrogant turd with a massively inflated idea of his own significance, but not that he lacked guts, an altogether different issue, and not many on the forum are lesser admirers than me but I can't make a case for 'Boycott is gutless'.

lardbucket wrote:Poor old Roy Virgin and Alan Jones missed out altogether (the ROW Test that was later revoked must really have hurt)

This led to a massive debate at my club recently. Whether Jones had a test cap or not (he played for us in the 60's). There is still one guy who maintains statsguru is wrong and Jones has a cap.

Brass Monkey wrote:

Red wrote:Well Boycott did it to avoid Lillian Thomson.

Pffffffffffttttttt. He did it because he was an uber-arrogant selfish sook who thought he was 'big balls crew' for captain and fell to the floor crying like a spanked child when Mike Denness was made captain.

And that is somehow better?

freddled gruntbuggly wrote:
Pffffffffffttttttt. He did it because he was an uber-arrogant selfish sook who thought he was 'big balls crew' for captain and fell to the floor crying like a spanked child when Mike Denness was made captain.

And that is somehow better?[/quote]

S'not better, no. S'just the truth. i.e. Red is some transvestite who blags for Australia.

"Will Saffies do what the Aussies couldn't ??"


You mean play a series against a team of a different ethnicity without resorting to foul-mouthed abuse and sniffly crying? Possibly.

bliksem wrote:You mean play a series against a team of a different ethnicity without resorting to foul-mouthed abuse and sniffly crying? Possibly.

Well.


Well.

Well, you don't do it against a team of similar ethnicity and last I remembered the Pak and Ind series in SA were hardly 'love affairs' so...... you haven't the greatest of chances.