Re: London Mayor: The nothing to do with Langer and Fred thread

[Brass Monkey]

I said that baz has political leanings moreso to the right, it's no biggie unless you find that insulting.

[Merlin]

I said that baz has political leanings moreso to the right, it's no biggie unless you find that insulting.

Not in the slightest - just somewhat amazed at Baz's vehement reaction ...

[Brass Monkey]

He obviously found it insulting!

[tac]

He obviously found it insulting!

Monkey concerned about someone feeling insulted?

[Brass Monkey]

Well, I wouldn't like to call anyone right-wing if they aren't...

[Merlin]

He obviously found it insulting!

Monkey concerned about someone feeling insulted?

Isn't that particular term considered racist by the sensitive Simmonds and his ultra-sensitive captain ??

[taipan]

He obviously found it insulting!

Monkey concerned about someone feeling insulted?

Isn't that particular term considered racist by the sensitive Simmonds and his ultra-sensitive captain ??

Phil Simmonds?

[Merlin]

... Symonds? Symmonds ? whatever ....
you know the one ... sensitive, shy, quiet, timid, wouldn't say boo to a goose ... loves Harbi ...

[Geoffrey Trueman]

Well, I wouldn't like to call anyone right-wing if they aren't...

BULL... SHIT! So why accuse me? I happen to think you're a typical, modern day PC clone that plays the racism card the moment anyone fails to play kiss arse with modern day Britains brainwashed, over-zealous, PC orientated way of thinking.

So, how many right wingers do we have in this forum? Allan D, merlin and Vikas are certainties, any more? All three seem a pretty way away from the centre.....

I'd nominate Geoffrey Trueman and Basil.

Ouch! If only you knew how wrong you were. The thing is people like you don't and never will. You see, I'm exactly the sort of person you don't think exists, a working class, essentially left wing labour voter of 30 years that has finally become disillusioned with what's going on in the country he lives in. I might be in the minority on this website, but up and down the country there are millions of people left of centre just like me sick to death of smoking bans, stealth taxes, especially when it's car related, immigration and the erosion of our national identity. It's not a question of being left wing or right wing, it's all about what's right and wrong. To blinkered, know nothing, right on idiots like you coasting through life happy with your lot and largely unaffected by what's going on in the world, views like mine are considered right wing and fascist, but they're not, to a lot of people with pubic hair older than you it's simply good old fashioned commonsense.

As I've said, I've been a Labour voter for 30 years, but even though I've reached breaking point and had enough of all the anti-English PC bullshit I just can't bring myself to vote Tory or BNP, but I freely admit to sympathising with those that do. The country's farked, totally farked, and with ostriches like you begining to get their foot on the political ladder it's going to get a whole lot worse. The sad fact is who you vote for doesn't matter anymore, and it's been like that since Thatcher, who I hated with a passion, left office.

Utopia/Finky world costs money, and so far sad sack Mr Average has been willing to pay for it, but as Mr Livingstone has found out and the local elections have proved, Mr Average is only willing to take so much. Alas, unlike days of old when you 'voted for change', these days you're voting for nothing more than a different coloured tie. If there was an alternative out there that offered something radically different apart from the BNP they'd get voted in tomorrow.

Reap and ye shall sow finky, reap and ye shall sow, thankfully I won't be around to see it, but mark my words, if you live long enough the full horror of your shoulder shrugging head in the sand attitude will come back to haunt you at some point during your lifetime, and what I wouldn't give to see you squealing like a stuck pig when it all goes tits up.

The following comments sum the likes of you and your ilk up perfectly...

Yeah, yeah.... it's a bit like you who doesn't like 'darkies' but has some token Uncle Tom as a part-time friend to keep up your facade.

You're a bit of a cock aren't you Allan? Anybody with a bit of social conscience is a benefit bludger :| I thought that twat attitude went out in the 80's... oh wait, it did.

Kin typical, unfortunately ignoring the problem and taking cheap shots at people that actually give a fark doesn't solve the problem, does it? If only life was that simple, eh?

"I thought that twat attitude went out in the 80's... oh wait, it did."

Yeah, and that's precisely why the country you're living in has gone to the dogs and is now the soulless, crime ridden, chav infested, tree hugging, free-loading immigrant loving, benefit laden, politically correct shitheap we now find ourselves living in.

Anyway, enough already, going back to the topic of this thread, the article I read that can be seen below suggests that Livingstones demise is down to car drivers saying enough is enough. The thing is, unless Cameron changes his mind again good old Boris is powerless to help them. When he got into office Cameron opposed Labours draconian views on car drivers and offered to help, unfortunately he's sinced changed his mind and if elected he intends to hit car drivers even harder. So where does that leave Boris?

'In the biggest political shake-up in four decades, the nation has decided that the motorist-loathing Labour Party should pay the price for relentlessly beating up drivers for several years. Finally, innocent, fed-up, ripped-off, bruised and battered car user victims gave as good as they got by kneeing the guilty aggressors in the ballot boxes at the local elections. Now that's my idea of democracy!'

'But the best news is Labour's Chief Car Hater, Ken Livingstone, has finally been spanked and dumped as the capital's Mayor. And that dismissal is significant in view of the fact that, after the Prime Minister, the Mayor of London is arguably the most powerful politician in England, if not Britain.'

'I know what you’re thinking: you don't live in London, you don't go there and you don’t care about the shenanigans. Fair enough. Yet wherever you live in England (and, to a lesser extent, the rest of Britain), what happens in this city should concern you greatly, because the place is a cruel proving ground-cum-insane experimental laboratory for elsewhere. Underestimate the positive and negative power of this over-influential town at your peril.'

'When Livingstone seized the place as his own scandal-ridden fiefdom, he introduced a £5 a day congestion tax that quickly rose to £8 and was (until he was booted out by the residents of London) scheduled to rise to £25 later this year. He called owners of all-wheel-drive cars "idiots". He craftily avoided his own congestion taxes by spending thousands of pounds of taxpayers' money on thirsty, congestion tax-free cabs. He wanted 20mph limits across London. He sabotaged the idea of free-flowing traffic thanks to endless road closures, badly phased lights and 24-hour bus lanes seven days a week - even when buses don’t run 24/7. Parking fees in 'his' city hit around £50 a day.'

'He introduced gas-guzzling, cash guzzling, road space-guzzling bendy buses that are as long and inappropriate as artic lorries. Violent crime and fare dodging are common on Livingstone's bus and rail network. He charged an exorbitant £4 to travel even for a few seconds* on rancid, crime-ridden Underground trains that are notorious for failing, forcing passengers occasionally to disembark and walk through terrifyingly dark, dirty tunnels.'

'Talking of terror, Livingstone appointed a former member of a banned terrorist organisation to the Board of Transport for London. And the Mayor said there was nothing wrong with Abu Hamza's son working as a sub-contractor on the capital's train system. Public transport unions collectively donated more than £100,000 to Ken's election campaign.'

'The scandals, sleaze and controversies didn’t end there. Whisky at work, cover-ups, racist slurs, punch-ups, dodgy friends and acquaintances and hypocrisy were among Livingstone's other flaws. Had he been voted back in, the man's blatant discrimination against cars and car people would have intensified. But thankfully, the elections ended the reign of Livingstone and the entire motorist-hostile Labour regime. And in the run-up to the General Election, some 30 million or so drivers - with a similar number of votes up their sleeves - have demonstrated they have more collective clout than maybe they had realised.'

'*A single fare from Embankment to Charing Cross by Tune costs £4. The journey last about one minute.'

Mike Rutherford

[taipan]

Ouch, I think Danny touched a nerve here.

[Merlin]

I happen to think you're a typical, modern day PC clone that plays the racism card the moment anyone fails to play kiss arse with modern day Britains brainwashed, over-zealous, PC orientated way of thinking.

and ....

The thing is people like you don't and never will (understand) ..... I might be in the minority on this website, but up and down the country there are millions of people left of centre just like me sick to death of smoking bans, stealth taxes, especially when it's car related, immigration and the erosion of our national identity. It's not a question of being left wing or right wing, it's all about what's right and wrong. To blinkered, know nothing, right on idiots like you coasting through life happy with your lot and largely unaffected by what's going on in the world, views like mine are considered right wing and fascist, but they're not, to a lot of people with pubic hair older than you it's simply good old fashioned commonsense.

GT with a most honest, robust yet brief clinical analysis of modern day Britain and the Fink !!
A worthy contender for the Forum Shakespeare Prize ... for prose and content.

Now stand by for the Fink's response ... nay, the onslaught .... any moment now!

[Brass Monkey]

BULL... SHIT! So why accuse me? I happen to think you're a typical, modern day PC clone that plays the racism card the moment anyone fails to play kiss arse with modern day Britains brainwashed, over-zealous, PC orientated way of thinking.

Not at all GT, apologies if you're not but stop the jumping up and down mate, you'll do yourself some damage. The impression you've got of me I feel is incorrect, but then we hardly know each other. You're just making assumptions yourself.

Ouch! If only you knew how wrong you were. The thing is people like you don't and never will. You see, I'm exactly the sort of person you don't think exists, a working class, essentially left wing labour voter of 30 years that has finally become disillusioned with what's going on in the country he lives in. I might be in the minority on this website, but up and down the country there are millions of people left of centre just like me sick to death of smoking bans, stealth taxes, especially when it's car related, immigration and the erosion of our national identity. It's not a question of being left wing or right wing, it's all about what's right and wrong. To blinkered, know nothing, right on idiots like you coasting through life happy with your lot and largely unaffected by what's going on in the world, views like mine are considered right wing and fascist, but they're not, to a lot of people with pubic hair older than you it's simply good old fashioned commonsense.

Again, get off the 'people like you' line... you don't like me assuming you're some 'in my day', xenophobic, Northern, Tory opinion poll target. You're the sort of person I don't think exists? F'kin hell mate, not sure what sort exactly you think I am but I'm a Labour member and go to my local club at least three times a week - there's plenty of people just like you. You're getting on your own agenda here, the Tory 'what's right for me' attitude, IMO. A lot of things are justifiable in politics, I'm not sure they can be deemed plain 'right or wrong'.

As I've said, I've been a Labour voter for 30 years, but even though I've reached breaking point and had enough of all the anti-English PC bullshit I just can't bring myself to vote Tory or BNP, but I freely admit to sympathising with those that do. The country's farked, totally farked, and with ostriches like you begining to get their foot on the political ladder it's going to get a whole lot worse. The sad fact is who you vote for doesn't matter anymore, and it's been like that since Thatcher, who I hated with a passion, left office.

I agree wholeheartedly with the fact that it doesn't matter who you vote for, which is why I didn't vote last time.

Reap and ye shall sow finky, reap and ye shall sow, thankfully I won't be around to see it, but mark my words, if you live long enough the full horror of your shoulder shrugging head in the sand attitude will come back to haunt you at some point during your lifetime, and what I wouldn't give to see you squealing like a stuck pig when it all goes tits up.

Yeah? O...K...

Yeah, and that's precisely why the country you're living in has gone to the dogs and is now the soulless, crime ridden, chav infested, tree hugging, free-loading immigrant loving, benefit laden, politically correct shitheap we now find ourselves living in.

Yeah, yeah Geoffrey - the 80's was a f'kin holiday ride and now suddenly the country's gone to pot

[Merlin]

Yeah, yeah Geoffrey - the 80's was a f'kin holiday ride and now suddenly the country's gone to pot..

You got it in one Finky!!
huzzah .....

[Brass Monkey]

I'd rather not swap comments with some dribbling goiter who's displayed a constant lack of knowledge.

[Merlin]

I'd rather not swap comments with some dribbling goiter who's displayed a constant lack of knowledge.

Exactly the coarse response I expected
You never fail to exhibit an overall paucity which, it seems, others on here have now sussed out!
You've been rumbled Finkie ...

[Brass Monkey]

1. It wasn't particularly coarse.
2. :| They haven't 'sussed out' anything, you weird, dramatic little chap.
3. 'Rumbled' about what? No, don't worry - you've done what you usually do, post out of context to what you're replying to. Silly billy.

[Merlin]

Never mind .... your thrice weekly soirees in your local Labour Club have clearly numbed you to the reality of the REAL world!

[taipan]

Never mind .... your thrice weekly soirees in your local Labour Club have clearly numbed you to the reality of the REAL world!

He only does it for the company cos he is lonely

[Brass Monkey]

Never mind .... your thrice weekly soirees in your local Labour Club have clearly numbed you to the reality of the REAL world!

I go there to get pissed and see people, issues come up however - I find I'm not in accordance with some bawdy lot's hardline views. I don't just mutter out the party's rhetoric, unlike some.

[Guest]

'*A single fare from Embankment to Charing Cross by Tune costs £4. The journey last about one minute.'

Mike Rutherford

Total carp. You can get right across Zone 1 for £1.50.

He should stick to playing bass for Mike & the Mechanics.

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