Re: WI v Australia, 2nd Test, North Sound, 30th May-3rd June

by skully Tue 03 Jun 2008, 13:30

Right, now that I've watched 6 and a half hours of cricket on tape, I can talk about sh!t that really matters. Observations from Day 4:

- Shiv doesn't look like getting out - another top knock from the unfashionable little leftie.
- Top shelf hour of bowling by Bung before lunch (yeah, he got some lucky calls but his spell was outstanding)
- No argument - shocking day of umpiring - 4 to Aus v 2 to Windies (and on another day even Punter may not have been given)
- Commentators boringly harping on about the umpiring ALL DAY, FFS
- Midge's continuing disappointingly crap technique (Even Pommy the Banger was giving advice)
- Drunky's overbowling of MacGoo and underbowling of Gump (surely it must have been about over rates)
- Paris looks class as an opener - his technique is outstanding - I could live with him being the permanent 1 or 2.
- Frog, on the other hand, looked sh!te - scratched like an old chook until 40 then became a little more fluent.
- Punter looks to be in supreme touch again.
- Good to see some fire in the belly of the Windies - particularly Taylor and Edwards.

Game on.

by Henry Tue 03 Jun 2008, 13:35

Right, now that I've watched 6 and a half hours of cricket on tape

You know, Fox Sports had a 2 hour highlights package on at 6pm this evening.

by holcs Tue 03 Jun 2008, 13:37

skully wrote:- Paris looks class as an opener - his technique is outstanding - I could live with him being the permanent 1 or 2.
- Punter looks to be in supreme touch again.
- Good to see some fire in the belly of the Windies - particularly Taylor and Edwards.

Game on.

Aye.

Hussey looks unbelievably solid up front.

Ponting played a back foot punch, which was probably the best pure cricket stroke I have seen in 2008.

Seems the Windies, although they were well and truley behind have started believing that they ain't completely shoite overall, which can only be good for International Cricket!

by skully Tue 03 Jun 2008, 13:37

Was out between 6 and 8 Trev. 6.5 hours can be watched quite easily in two, which I did from 8 pm. But thanks all the same, old chap.

by Brass Monkey Tue 03 Jun 2008, 13:38

skully wrote:Right, now that I've watched 6 and a half hours of cricket on tape, I can't talk about sh!t that really matters. Observations from Day 4:

- Shiv doesn't look like getting out - another top knock from the unfashionable little leftie.
- Top shelf hour of bowling by Bung before lunch (yeah, he got some lucky calls but his spell was outstanding)
- No argument - shocking day of umpiring - 4 to Aus v 2 to Windies (and on another day even Punter may not have been given)
- Commentators boringly harping on about the umpiring ALL DAY, FFS
- Midge's continuing disappointingly crap technique (Even Pommy the Banger was giving advice)
- Drunky's overbowling of MacGoo and underbowling of Gump (surely it must have been about over rates)
- Paris looks class as an opener - his technique is outstanding - I could live with him being the permanent 1 or 2.
- Frog, on the other hand, looked sh!te - scratched like an old chook until 40 then became a little more fluent.
- Punter looks to be in supreme touch again.
- Good to see some fire in the belly of the Windies - particularly Taylor and Edwards.

Game on.

- Shiv - Immense. Shits all over Clarke, just to bring an old debate back. Top 3 in the world ATM, IMO.
- Bung - Brilliant. Thought he was starting to lose it again, but when he's like this, he's magic.
- shocking day of umpiring - Right on. The Windies ones made the game a little sour IMO.
- Commentators - Yeah, though it was a woeful day, as you've mentioned. You must get disappointed as a commentator.
- Midge - Dunno WTF is wrong with him - reckon he should just bowl around the wicket.
- Drunky - Got to be over-rates. Neither wants a fine again.
- Paris opening - he always should've been, as soon as Langer retired.
- Frog - Not sure. He has been playing shit at times here, but he's better than many about.
- Punter - All class again
- Windies bowlers - yeah, it's really refreshing. Even Powell. They'd do OK against worse teams.

by skully Tue 03 Jun 2008, 13:40

holcs wrote:Seems the Windies, although they were well and truley behind have started believing that they ain't completely shoite overall, which can only be good for International Cricket!

Yup. I have found the anaemic performances of the once-mighty Windies over the past 8 years or so to be very sad. At times they have very much had the "Meh, we don't care, mon" look about them. It was good to see them firing up in that last session.

by Henry Tue 03 Jun 2008, 13:40

The Windies would probably beat England at the moment.

by JKLever Tue 03 Jun 2008, 13:42

Steady...

by skully Tue 03 Jun 2008, 13:44

Dunno whether Punter should declare or not. Wicket is getting a bit up and down, but 370 at 4 an over might not be impossible (342 runs were scored on Day 4, but you can add 50 for MacDill's tosh). I'm guessing Drunky will let Roy have a tonk for 30 minutes.

by Henry Tue 03 Jun 2008, 13:45

They have Shiv, Edwards, Taylor, and spirit. We have a top 6 desperately waving their stats above their heads, hoping that it's enough to keep them in the team.

by Henry Tue 03 Jun 2008, 13:46

skully wrote:Dunno whether Punter should declare or not. Wicket is getting a bit up and down, but 370 at 4 an over might not be impossible (342 runs were scored on Day 4, but you can add 50 for MacDill's tosh). I'm guessing Drunky will let Roy have a tonk for 30 minutes.

Ponting can't have much faith in his bowlers (MacGill aside) if he's scared the Windies will score 370 on the last day to win.

by PearlJ Tue 03 Jun 2008, 13:48

skully wrote:Dunno whether Punter should declare or not. Wicket is getting a bit up and down, but 370 at 4 an over might not be impossible (342 runs were scored on Day 4, but you can add 50 for MacDill's tosh). I'm guessing Drunky will let Roy have a tonk for 30 minutes.

Exactly. Bat for maybe 6 more overs and keep their openers guessing rather than giving them time to get mentally prepared. And 371 in 98 overs is not impossible. About 400 in 90 sounds a bit better.

by skully Tue 03 Jun 2008, 13:52

Henry wrote:Ponting can't have much faith in his bowlers (MacGill aside) if he's scared the Windies will score 370 on the last day to win.

I can assure you Australian supporters don't have any such faith. Gump and Bung are goodish, Midge is poor and MacGoo is unbowlable. That hardly augurs well for bowling a team to victory on the last day. It took 70 overs before the only ball they used in the Windies innings reversed and then Bung used it brilliantly.

by taipan Tue 03 Jun 2008, 13:52

Brass Monkey wrote:
- Shiv - Immense. Shits all over Clarke, just to bring an old debate back. Top 3 in the world ATM, IMO.

Shiv Kallis Punter then?

by tac Tue 03 Jun 2008, 13:56

Brass Monkey wrote:
- Shiv - Immense. Shits all over Clarke, just to bring an old debate back. Top 3 in the world ATM, IMO.

That'd be right except for the fact that Clarke's knock was the best of the whole series . . . on either side . . . shrug

by Brass Monkey Tue 03 Jun 2008, 13:57

taipan wrote:
Brass Monkey wrote:
- Shiv - Immense. Shits all over Clarke, just to bring an old debate back. Top 3 in the world ATM, IMO.

Shiv Kallis Punter then?

Probably I'd say so. I've had the most admiration for Shiv of recent. It must be hard to keep going in such a shithouse team.

by Henry Tue 03 Jun 2008, 13:58

tac wrote:
Brass Monkey wrote:
- Shiv - Immense. Shits all over Clarke, just to bring an old debate back. Top 3 in the world ATM, IMO.

That'd be right except for the fact that Clarke's knock was the best of the whole series . . . on either side . . .

Yeah, except that Clarke is Australia's version of Ian Bell. Let's see him play like that when Australia are 20-3....

by Brass Monkey Tue 03 Jun 2008, 14:00

tac wrote:
That'd be right except for the fact that Clarke's knock was the best of the whole series . . . on either side . . .

Using smileys to hide your real feelings, or are we not on that witty reparte ATM? Wink

<---- don't take that smiley the wrong way.

Clarke's knock was quality. I'm not even comparing tons. I'm comparing batsmen and Shiv has proved against probably the 2nd best attack ATM in world cricket that he can do it again and again. All that was needed, IMO, was a good series against the Aussies and he'd be 'there'.

by taipan Tue 03 Jun 2008, 14:00

Brass Monkey wrote:
taipan wrote:
Brass Monkey wrote:
- Shiv - Immense. Shits all over Clarke, just to bring an old debate back. Top 3 in the world ATM, IMO.

Shiv Kallis Punter then?

Probably I'd say so. I've had the most admiration for Shiv of recent. It must be hard to keep going in such a shithouse team.

Um I almost said the same about Kallis

by Henry Tue 03 Jun 2008, 14:01

I think that Shiv now deserves to be called a great West Indian cricketer.

by JGK Tue 03 Jun 2008, 14:03

Brass Monkey wrote:
tac wrote:
That'd be right except for the fact that Clarke's knock was the best of the whole series . . . on either side . . .

Using smileys to hide your real feelings, or are we not on that witty reparte ATM? <---- don't take that smiley the wrong way.

Clarke's knock was quality. I'm not even comparing tons. I'm comparing batsmen and Shiv has proved against probably the 2nd best attack ATM in world cricket that he can do it again and again. All that was needed, IMO, was a good series against the Aussies and he'd be 'there'.

Why doesn't he bat up the order?

by tac Tue 03 Jun 2008, 14:04

Brass Monkey wrote:
tac wrote:
That'd be right except for the fact that Clarke's knock was the best of the whole series . . . on either side . . .

Using smileys to hide your real feelings, or are we not on that witty reparte ATM? <---- don't take that smiley the wrong way.

Clarke's knock was quality. I'm not even comparing tons. I'm comparing batsmen and Shiv has proved against probably the 2nd best attack ATM in world cricket that he can do it again and again. All that was needed, IMO, was a good series against the Aussies and he'd be 'there'.

"I'm comparing batsman but not how well they batted" . . . couldn't you at least make an effort to make sense?

by Brass Monkey Tue 03 Jun 2008, 14:07

taipan wrote:
Um I almost said the same about Kallis

Uhhhhhh. Apart from one has a bag of wank for his team-mates and one has an apparent 'atg' keeper, an opener averaging c. 50, a 300+ wicket taker, the best fast bowler in the world(just about), another up-and-coming prospect, last year's young player of the year and so on.

by Brass Monkey Tue 03 Jun 2008, 14:10

tac wrote:
"I'm comparing batsman but not how well they batted" . . . couldn't you at least make an effort to make sense?

**sniff** Boo hooo. I'd warrant, now stay with me here - it may be hard, but f*ck it'll be worth it, that it would be easier to bat against WI than against Aus. It would be easier to play your strokes against the WI, it would be harder to keep your wicket intact against Aus. Different bowling attacks, different situations, produce different types of centuries. If you need more clarification, let me know. Sugar-lips.

by taipan Tue 03 Jun 2008, 14:11

Brass Monkey wrote:
taipan wrote:
Um I almost said the same about Kallis

Uhhhhhh. Apart from one has a bag of wank for his team-mates and one has an apparent 'atg' keeper, an opener averaging c. 50, a 300+ wicket taker, the best fast bowler in the world(just about), another up-and-coming prospect, last year's young player of the year and so on.

Seriously, I think Kallis has been inhibited by collapses.

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