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Post by Brass Monkey Thu 29 May 2008, 13:14

Thought I'd start this off...

In a way there's not much to talk about. I think all of the players will undeservedly keep their places for the nth time.

The only change I think they're discussing is Broad for Tremlett.

I personally wouldn't advocate it though. Tremlett can be innocuous too and his woeful fitness record should discount him from too many England call-ups.

The rest - KP needs some runs really - though as I've mentioned before, if he gets some 'bird' it fires him up a great deal more, Aus have done it, India last year, Pakistan, SL... he seems to relish it, I'm sure people have been told not to get in his ear... I'm not sure SA will heed the warning though, they gave him loads in that ODI series and seem to take KP quite personally.

Bell and Colly are in dire need. Bell's been as abject as Collingwood so far, it's just his FTB ton that has kept the vultures away.

Cook has looked in decent touch, regardless of the results - ditto MPV.

Not sure what I think of Ambrose's batting any more, looked nuggety and punchy. Now just looks like GO Jones c. 2006.
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Post by JKLever Thu 29 May 2008, 13:22

Bit harsh on Ambrose!
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Post by Brass Monkey Thu 29 May 2008, 13:27

JKLever wrote:Bit harsh on Ambrose!

Am I? confused confused confused

He's scored 49 runs for 5 out since his ton. He hasn't looked like getting many either
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Post by holcs Thu 29 May 2008, 13:35

Same as same as for the next test.

Should be last chance saloon for Colly, Bell and hopefully Anderson (unfortunately stats are on his side, and we all know how important they are).

Ambrose should get the whole of the SA series IMO.

Would like to see KP go give it a bash like he sort of did in the 4th innings @ OT.
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Post by PearlJ Thu 29 May 2008, 13:35

Nope. England have swapped a mediocre keeper/good batsmen for an OK keeper/rubbish batsmen.

Should have stuck with Irongloves.
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Post by JKLever Thu 29 May 2008, 13:36

Brass Monkey wrote:
JKLever wrote:Bit harsh on Ambrose!

Am I? confused confused confused

He's scored 49 runs for 5 out since his ton. He hasn't looked like getting many either

Maybe I'm just tired of the w/k debate!`
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Post by holcs Thu 29 May 2008, 13:37

JKLever wrote:
Brass Monkey wrote:
JKLever wrote:Bit harsh on Ambrose!

Am I? confused confused confused

He's scored 49 runs for 5 out since his ton. He hasn't looked like getting many either

Maybe I'm just tired of the w/k debate!`

Its only important because number 5 and 6 score F'all runs!!
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Post by Brass Monkey Thu 29 May 2008, 13:49

PearlJ wrote:Nope. England have swapped a mediocre keeper/good batsmen for an OK keeper/rubbish batsmen.

Should have stuck with Irongloves.

Aus have literally 73,832 better keepers than the English - all of which are excellent batsmen/excellent keepers. Ahh, great.
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Post by tac Thu 29 May 2008, 14:18

holcs wrote:
JKLever wrote:
Brass Monkey wrote:
JKLever wrote:Bit harsh on Ambrose!

Am I? confused confused confused

He's scored 49 runs for 5 out since his ton. He hasn't looked like getting many either

Maybe I'm just tired of the w/k debate!`

Its only important because number 5 and 6 score F'all runs!!

Indeed . . . just give the job to the best gloveman and let the top 6 worry about the runs . . .
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Post by eowyn Thu 29 May 2008, 14:35

Are some of you secretly hoping we crash and burn?
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Post by holcs Thu 29 May 2008, 14:37

eowyn wrote:Are some of you secretly hoping we crash and burn?

I'm hoping a middle order batter does yessir!

England win, and two failures from the balless one would be lovely!
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Post by PearlJ Thu 29 May 2008, 14:44

Brass Monkey wrote:
PearlJ wrote:Nope. England have swapped a mediocre keeper/good batsmen for an OK keeper/rubbish batsmen.

Should have stuck with Irongloves.

Aus have literally 73,832 better keepers than the English - all of which are excellent batsmen/excellent keepers. Ahh, great.

Well once again, if you say so.

I suppose the point is proven by the fact your current No.1 is an Aussie......
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Post by JKLever Thu 29 May 2008, 14:45

Are you Aussie born PJ?, if not you're a bit of a hypocrite.
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Post by PearlJ Thu 29 May 2008, 14:46

JKLever wrote:Are you Aussie born PJ?, if not you're a bit of a hypocrite.

Yeah, of course I am.
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Post by holcs Thu 29 May 2008, 14:49

Brass Monkey wrote:
PearlJ wrote:Nope. England have swapped a mediocre keeper/good batsmen for an OK keeper/rubbish batsmen.

Should have stuck with Irongloves.

Aus have literally 73,832 better keepers than the English - all of which are excellent batsmen/excellent keepers. Ahh, great.

Nice work Dan!!

bounce Very Happy bounce
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Post by JKLever Thu 29 May 2008, 14:49

PearlJ wrote:
JKLever wrote:Are you Aussie born PJ?, if not you're a bit of a hypocrite.

Yeah, of course I am.

Explains a lot...
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Post by PearlJ Thu 29 May 2008, 14:51

JKLever wrote:
PearlJ wrote:
JKLever wrote:Are you Aussie born PJ?, if not you're a bit of a hypocrite.

Yeah, of course I am.

Explains a lot...

Laughing
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Post by embee Thu 29 May 2008, 15:00

PearlJ = Mr Cricket
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Post by JKLever Thu 29 May 2008, 15:01

Nah, he's from another forum. He's ok, just cyclops to the max.
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Post by Brass Monkey Thu 29 May 2008, 15:05

embee wrote:PearlJ = Mr Cricket

That was Rob S. This is just some happy clappy one-eye.
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Post by JKLever Thu 29 May 2008, 15:07

Do we know Rob was Mr Cricket for sure? What a qunt.
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Post by holcs Thu 29 May 2008, 15:08

Where has he disappeared to anyway?
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Post by embee Thu 29 May 2008, 15:10

No multi Id's ...and he's PearlJ
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Post by Brass Monkey Thu 29 May 2008, 15:10

JKLever wrote:Do we know Rob was Mr Cricket for sure? What a qunt.

95% sure. He admitted it even, I thought he was being facetious at first but then it became pretty apparent, IME.
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Post by JKLever Thu 29 May 2008, 15:11

Weird bloke...
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