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Post by JKLever Fri 30 May 2008, 11:28

Interesting...
http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/england/content/current/story/352890.html

So, what I want to know is who will be doing the appealing?
but it is more than likely that there will be appeals lodged if the rules are amended in the ECB's favour.

Whichever county is lobbying against this needs their funding cut pronto...

I guess each county will now be limited to 1 or 2 kolpaks.
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Post by holcs Fri 30 May 2008, 11:35

JKLever wrote:Interesting...
http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/england/content/current/story/352890.html

So, what I want to know is who will be doing the appealing?
but it is more than likely that there will be appeals lodged if the rules are amended in the ECB's favour.

Whichever county is lobbying against this needs their funding cut pronto...

I guess each county will now be limited to 1 or 2 kolpaks.

Already put this in the CC thread.

But yeah, hopefully all those dross weasel shoite kolpakers get fooked off!
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Post by JKLever Fri 30 May 2008, 11:36

Ah, right.

Must've missed it inbetween all the Ian Bell baiting!
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Post by Henry Fri 30 May 2008, 11:37

Leics, Northants, and Direbyshire will be fooked. So nothing will change......
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Post by holcs Fri 30 May 2008, 11:40

JKLever wrote:
Must've missed it inbetween all the Ian Bell realisation!

fixed!

Nah bother JK. Just good to hear really! Can see it taking ages for anything to happen.

I also expect their to be the actual Kolpakers appealing as opposed to the actual counties!!
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Post by Lara Lara Laughs Fri 30 May 2008, 11:40

F*ck off Henry you utter piece of sh*t.
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Post by Brass Monkey Fri 30 May 2008, 11:44

Henry wrote:Leics, Northants, and Direbyshire will be fooked. So nothing will change......

Aye. We'd lose Thunderfart, Andrew Hall, Nicky Boje, Zulu and Johann Louw... though I've heard that Lancie is nearly a citizen and Louw isn't far off. TBF we haven't any gashlords, so it'd be a gigantic blow.

Would be nice in a way though. It'd stop half a dozen whingey, snivelling, close-to-tears, quntish load of myopic pieces of shit doing nothing more than getting their whinging-boards out without debate.
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Post by Henry Fri 30 May 2008, 11:47

Out of those three counties, Northants do appear to have the best junior syestem.
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Post by JKLever Fri 30 May 2008, 11:49

Brass Monkey wrote:
Henry wrote:Leics, Northants, and Direbyshire will be fooked. So nothing will change......

Aye. We'd lose Thunderfart, Andrew Hall, Nicky Boje, Zulu and Johann Louw... though I've heard that Lancie is nearly a citizen and Louw isn't far off. TBF we haven't any gashlords, so it'd be a gigantic blow.

Would be nice in a way though. It'd stop half a dozen whingey, snivelling, close-to-tears, quntish load of myopic pieces of shit doing nothing more than getting their whinging-boards out without debate.

You wouldn't lose all of them.

It just means that no side can pack their team with them.
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Post by holcs Fri 30 May 2008, 11:50

Henry wrote:Out of those three counties, Northants do appear to have the best junior syestem.

And the best quality Kolpaks as well to be fair!

I've always said I don't mind quality Kolpaks. They increase the standard to a point.

But people like Telo, Nannes, Botha etc... They should be fooked off with a big baseball bat as far as I'm concerned!
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Post by Brass Monkey Fri 30 May 2008, 11:53

Henry wrote:Out of those three counties, Northants do appear to have the best junior syestem.

3rd best academy in the country.
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Post by JKLever Fri 30 May 2008, 11:53

And thats the problem, it's all well and good saying 'yeah but look at the quality of Nhants' and I agree with that - but there's no quality threshold system in place so it means we're flooded with dross.
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Post by Brass Monkey Fri 30 May 2008, 11:56

holcs wrote:
And the best quality Kolpaks as well to be fair!

I've always said I don't mind quality Kolpaks. They increase the standard to a point.
Yeah agreed - they're spot on. But I can see both sides. Zulu is no doubt keeping Mark Nelson out, Boje is keeping Graeme White out. Still, Louw, Hall and VdW are keeping out Lucas, Logan and Wigley!!! TAYPOC x100!!!!!!! Crook should be in the team when he's fit. Fragile body, like a few other strong, strapping lads. Shame, he smacks the ball and bowls near 90.
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Post by Henry Fri 30 May 2008, 11:57

Brass Monkey wrote:
Henry wrote:Out of those three counties, Northants do appear to have the best junior syestem.

3rd best academy in the country.

Who has the best? I guess Yorkshire followed by Lancashire or maybe Durham?
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Post by Brass Monkey Fri 30 May 2008, 12:03

Henry wrote:
Who has the best? I guess Yorkshire followed by Lancashire or maybe Durham?

Dunno, read it in Wisden. Not sure what it was alluding to anyway... facilities, youth training... I really don't know. We do seem to produce a fair amount of Eng U19s and younger representative cricket. I'd say all three really, the amount of actual First Teamers they produce.
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Post by holcs Fri 30 May 2008, 12:19

JKLever wrote:And thats the problem, it's all well and good saying 'yeah but look at the quality of Nhants' and I agree with that - but there's no quality threshold system in place so it means we're flooded with dross.

Exactly. Which means hopefully with there only being say 2 allowed. It means that those 6 say, will be evenly distributed through to other counties who have dross hopefully!

Which is ideal really IMO.

More room for English players, and a little better standard overall?!
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Post by PearlJ Fri 30 May 2008, 12:37

I don't actually see the problem with Kolpaks. As long as they are decent ones.
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Post by JKLever Fri 30 May 2008, 12:39

PearlJ wrote:I don't actually see the problem with Kolpaks. As long as they are decent ones.

Well that's the whole crux. They aren't...
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Post by taipan Fri 30 May 2008, 12:41

JKLever wrote:
PearlJ wrote:I don't actually see the problem with Kolpaks. As long as they are decent ones.

Well that's the whole crux. They aren't...

That's illogical. Why bring in a Kolpak if they are going to weaken the team.
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Post by JKLever Fri 30 May 2008, 12:45

Because it's easier to have a ready made player than produce your own?
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Post by Brass Monkey Fri 30 May 2008, 12:46

taipan wrote:
That's illogical. Why bring in a Kolpak if they are going to weaken the team.

Cost about half what an English player of equal ability would cost.
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Post by holcs Fri 30 May 2008, 12:47

JKLever wrote:Because it's easier to have a ready made player than produce your own?

Capped county player Circa £40K-60K

Kolpaker more like £30K

Theres your answer!
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Post by Merlin Fri 30 May 2008, 12:47

JKLever wrote:Because it's easier (and cheaper in most cases) to have a ready made player than produce your own?

Bugger .. Chas beat me to it!


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Post by taipan Fri 30 May 2008, 12:47

Brass Monkey wrote:
taipan wrote:
That's illogical. Why bring in a Kolpak if they are going to weaken the team.

Cost about half what an English player of equal ability would cost.

Sorry Danny. don't get that
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Post by Brass Monkey Fri 30 May 2008, 12:49

taipan wrote:
Sorry Danny. don't get that

OK. Say you have a decent seamer... Alan Richardson or something, he'd cost about twice as much as Van der Wath - who, say, is of equal ability.
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