Re: Greatest left hand bat since Sobers - AB or BCL?

by HH_pink Sun 08 Jun 2008, 18:20

Because SRT >>..>> BCL.

by Guest Sun 08 Jun 2008, 19:10

HH_pink wrote:Because SRT >>..>> BCL.

At minnow bashing and scoring runs when the pressure was off, certainly.

by HH_pink Mon 09 Jun 2008, 00:29

You mean because BCL did that? I mean, score huge tons in dull draws (the only non-dull aspect of those matches being his batting)? Yes.

by Basil Mon 09 Jun 2008, 01:12

It grieves me to say it because I think he's a self-serving, greedy, son-of-a-bitch but it has to be BCL.

by Paul Keating Mon 09 Jun 2008, 04:59

BCL had it tougher than AB and for longer.

He performed just as magnificently.

He strode to the wicket early to start his innings, he was always at the other end of a collapse, and normally got out at the end slogging as he was running out of partners.

by Guest Mon 09 Jun 2008, 07:53

HH_pink wrote:You mean because BCL did that? I mean, score huge tons in dull draws (the only non-dull aspect of those matches being his batting)? Yes.

No, SRT did it far more often and BCL played many more meaningful innings that got his team out of tight situations.

by taipan Mon 09 Jun 2008, 08:10

vilkrang wrote:
HH_pink wrote:You mean because BCL did that? I mean, score huge tons in dull draws (the only non-dull aspect of those matches being his batting)? Yes.
No, SRT did it far more often and BCL played many more meaningful innings that got his team out of tight situations.

At least Wisden recognised that SRT never played any great knocks.

by The One Mon 09 Jun 2008, 08:28

vilkrang wrote:
HH_pink wrote:You mean because BCL did that? I mean, score huge tons in dull draws (the only non-dull aspect of those matches being his batting)? Yes.
No, SRT did it far more often and BCL played many more meaningful innings that got his team out of tight situations.

bcl hardly played a significant match innings after walsh's retirement. coincidence?

by The One Mon 09 Jun 2008, 08:29

havent seen much of border i would say bcl. maybe bcl at home and border away to break it down at bit

by Don't quote me Mon 09 Jun 2008, 11:28

AB was greater at crab like, down the order, red ink hunting

by JGK Mon 09 Jun 2008, 12:49

Phurt - AB declared on himself in the 90s in chasing a win. BCL let himself get to 400* when a win was in the offing.

by Henry Mon 09 Jun 2008, 13:02

I think Lara, Hussey, Sangakkara, and even Shiv are better left hand bats than Border was.

by PearlJ Mon 09 Jun 2008, 13:17

Henry wrote:I think Lara, Hussey, Sangakkara, and even Shiv are better left hand bats than Border was.

What terrible WUMing. Really poor quality.

by Leo Mon 09 Jun 2008, 13:18

Feeble.

by Henry Mon 09 Jun 2008, 13:24

What terrible WUMing

What does that mean? FFS we have a complete glossary and still people are coming up with new abbreviations.

by Paul Keating Mon 09 Jun 2008, 13:24

JGK wrote:Phurt - AB declared on himself in the 90s in chasing a win. BCL let himself get to 400* when a win was in the offing.

No doubt that BCL was incredibly selfish, however, how many times did he get himself out slogging? Numerous times.

At the end of an innings how often did you see AB or SRW farming the strike or going for quick runs?

by Paul Keating Mon 09 Jun 2008, 13:25

WUM = wind-up merchant

by Henry Mon 09 Jun 2008, 13:27

Wind Up Merchant? No. Border was a fine player but he bullied some piss poor England attacks, yet averaged less than 40 against the Windies.

by Paul Keating Mon 09 Jun 2008, 13:30

Deceiving stat, that one about <40 against the Windies.

I think JGK showed me stats of AB during the 80s averaging a more respectable 45 when they were at their peak.

by HH_pink Mon 09 Jun 2008, 13:51

That's still short of 'great' ...

by taipan Mon 09 Jun 2008, 13:57

Henry wrote:
What terrible WUMing

What does that mean? FFS we have a complete glossary and still people are coming up with new abbreviations.

Erm. WUM has been in use for years

by Chivalry Augustus Mon 09 Jun 2008, 14:14

Pains me to say it, but...Matthew Hayden.

by Fred Nerk Mon 09 Jun 2008, 14:18

Henry wrote:I think

Cobblers.

by HH_pink Mon 09 Jun 2008, 14:21

taipan wrote:
vilkrang wrote:
HH_pink wrote:You mean because BCL did that? I mean, score huge tons in dull draws (the only non-dull aspect of those matches being his batting)? Yes.
No, SRT did it far more often and BCL played many more meaningful innings that got his team out of tight situations.

At least Wisden recognised that SRT never played any great knocks.

What would a bunch of uppity old pedants know? Rolling Eyes

by taipan Mon 09 Jun 2008, 14:27

HH_pink wrote:
taipan wrote:
vilkrang wrote:
HH_pink wrote:You mean because BCL did that? I mean, score huge tons in dull draws (the only non-dull aspect of those matches being his batting)? Yes.
No, SRT did it far more often and BCL played many more meaningful innings that got his team out of tight situations.

At least Wisden recognised that SRT never played any great knocks.

What would a bunch of uppity old pedants know?

True that's what I said when they made him batsman of the century.

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