Re: Ponting, Waugh, Taylor - last 12 ODI innings

by JGK Sun 29 Jun 2008, 13:18

WideWally wrote:Australian Under 19 reps who went on to play tests or ODIs for Australia -
M.Bevan, G.Blewett, D.Boon, N.Bracken, B.Casson, M.Clarke, S.Cook, M.Cosgrove, D.Cullen, A.Dodemaide, D.Fleming, A.Gilchrist, J.Gillespie, B.Haddin, N.Hauritz, I.Healy, B.Hodge, J.Hopes, M.Hussey, M.Johnson, B.Julian, M.Kasprowicz, J.Langer, S.Law, B.Lee, S.Lee, M.Love, C.McDermott, J.Maher, G.Marsh, S.Marsh, D.Martyn, T.May, T.Moody, M.Nicholson, P.Reiffel, G.Robertson, C.Rogers, M.Slater, A.Symonds, M.Taylor, G.Trimble, M.Veletta, A.Voges, S.Warne, S.Watson, M.Waugh, S.Waugh, C.White, B.Williams, A.Zesers.

You could pick a great team out of that lot.

In addition Gallian, Mullally & White played England after being Australian U19 reps.

You could also pick:

Maher
Valetta
Gallian
S Lee
Cosgrove
Trimble
Haddin
Zesers
Hauritz
Robertson
Cook

by PearlJ Sun 29 Jun 2008, 13:21

JGK wrote:
WideWally wrote:Australian Under 19 reps who went on to play tests or ODIs for Australia -
M.Bevan, G.Blewett, D.Boon, N.Bracken, B.Casson, M.Clarke, S.Cook, M.Cosgrove, D.Cullen, A.Dodemaide, D.Fleming, A.Gilchrist, J.Gillespie, B.Haddin, N.Hauritz, I.Healy, B.Hodge, J.Hopes, M.Hussey, M.Johnson, B.Julian, M.Kasprowicz, J.Langer, S.Law, B.Lee, S.Lee, M.Love, C.McDermott, J.Maher, G.Marsh, S.Marsh, D.Martyn, T.May, T.Moody, M.Nicholson, P.Reiffel, G.Robertson, C.Rogers, M.Slater, A.Symonds, M.Taylor, G.Trimble, M.Veletta, A.Voges, S.Warne, S.Watson, M.Waugh, S.Waugh, C.White, B.Williams, A.Zesers.

You could pick a great team out of that lot.

In addition Gallian, Mullally & White played England after being Australian U19 reps.

You could also pick:

Maher
Valetta
Gallian
S Lee
Cosgrove
Trimble
Haddin
Zesers
Hauritz
Robertson
Cook

That's an awesome team. Shane Lee alone makes it top quality.

by JGK Sun 29 Jun 2008, 13:22

Aust youth JAMODI batting:

http://www.cricketarchive.co.uk/Archive/Records/Australia/UOdis/Career_Batting_by_Player.html

And bowling:

http://www.cricketarchive.co.uk/Archive/Records/Australia/UOdis/Career_Bowling_by_Player.html

by embee Sun 29 Jun 2008, 13:23

He is supposedly better than Shaun ...He just set a record for Runs scored in a season in the Darlot Cup (Schools Comp) ...Other players to have played Darlot include Langer , Katich , Moody , Hogg , G & S Marsh

by PearlJ Sun 29 Jun 2008, 13:24

Maybe all the money in cricket at the moment will convince him to stay at WA.

by JGK Sun 29 Jun 2008, 13:25

And the Youth tests:

http://www.cricketarchive.co.uk/Archive/Records/Australia/UTests/Career_Batting_by_Player.html

by doremi Sun 29 Jun 2008, 13:29

The Waugh brothers seem to have very good records.

by WideWally Sun 29 Jun 2008, 13:30

PearlJ wrote:
WideWally wrote:Australian Under 19 reps who went on to play tests or ODIs for Australia -
M.Bevan, G.Blewett, D.Boon, N.Bracken, B.Casson, M.Clarke, S.Cook, M.Cosgrove, D.Cullen, A.Dodemaide, D.Fleming, A.Gilchrist, J.Gillespie, B.Haddin, N.Hauritz, I.Healy, B.Hodge, J.Hopes, M.Hussey, M.Johnson, B.Julian, M.Kasprowicz, J.Langer, S.Law, B.Lee, S.Lee, M.Love, C.McDermott, J.Maher, G.Marsh, S.Marsh, D.Martyn, T.May, T.Moody, M.Nicholson, P.Reiffel, G.Robertson, C.Rogers, M.Slater, A.Symonds, M.Taylor, G.Trimble, M.Veletta, A.Voges, S.Warne, S.Watson, M.Waugh, S.Waugh, C.White, B.Williams, A.Zesers.

You could pick a great team out of that lot.

In addition Gallian, Mullally & White played England after being Australian U19 reps.

Aye. But I doubt many of them tore up the U-19 stage. Most of them came through when they started to play FC cricket.

Of course they tore up the U-19 stage. They made the national team! Check out the links I put up an hour ago to the Aust U19 Test & ODI batting records & you will see that many of them performed very well at international youth level. If you change the word "batting" in the URL to "bowling" you can also check their bowling records as well.

WideWally wrote:Maybe not greats but a lot of good cricketers. Have a look at the list of former Australia Under 19 reps.

Aust U19 Test players

Aust U19 ODI players

IMO Australian selectors have always shown a preference for cricketers who have previously gone through the National Under 19 setup.

by PearlJ Sun 29 Jun 2008, 13:32

WideWally wrote:
PearlJ wrote:
WideWally wrote:Australian Under 19 reps who went on to play tests or ODIs for Australia -
M.Bevan, G.Blewett, D.Boon, N.Bracken, B.Casson, M.Clarke, S.Cook, M.Cosgrove, D.Cullen, A.Dodemaide, D.Fleming, A.Gilchrist, J.Gillespie, B.Haddin, N.Hauritz, I.Healy, B.Hodge, J.Hopes, M.Hussey, M.Johnson, B.Julian, M.Kasprowicz, J.Langer, S.Law, B.Lee, S.Lee, M.Love, C.McDermott, J.Maher, G.Marsh, S.Marsh, D.Martyn, T.May, T.Moody, M.Nicholson, P.Reiffel, G.Robertson, C.Rogers, M.Slater, A.Symonds, M.Taylor, G.Trimble, M.Veletta, A.Voges, S.Warne, S.Watson, M.Waugh, S.Waugh, C.White, B.Williams, A.Zesers.

You could pick a great team out of that lot.

In addition Gallian, Mullally & White played England after being Australian U19 reps.

Aye. But I doubt many of them tore up the U-19 stage. Most of them came through when they started to play FC cricket.

Of course they tore up the U-19 stage. They made the national team! Check out the links I put up an hour ago to the Aust U19 Test & ODI batting records & you will see that many of them performed very well at international youth level. If you change the world "batting" in the URL to "bowling" you can also check their bowling records as well.

Ok, what I meant to say was that not many of them were picked for Australia on their U-19 exploits. Like happens in India or Pakistan.

by embee Sun 29 Jun 2008, 13:37

JGK wrote:
WideWally wrote:Australian Under 19 reps who went on to play tests or ODIs for Australia -
M.Bevan, G.Blewett, D.Boon, N.Bracken, B.Casson, M.Clarke, S.Cook, M.Cosgrove, D.Cullen, A.Dodemaide, D.Fleming, A.Gilchrist, J.Gillespie, B.Haddin, N.Hauritz, I.Healy, B.Hodge, J.Hopes, M.Hussey, M.Johnson, B.Julian, M.Kasprowicz, J.Langer, S.Law, B.Lee, S.Lee, M.Love, C.McDermott, J.Maher, G.Marsh, S.Marsh, D.Martyn, T.May, T.Moody, M.Nicholson, P.Reiffel, G.Robertson, C.Rogers, M.Slater, A.Symonds, M.Taylor, G.Trimble, M.Veletta, A.Voges, S.Warne, S.Watson, M.Waugh, S.Waugh, C.White, B.Williams, A.Zesers.

You could pick a great team out of that lot.

In addition Gallian, Mullally & White played England after being Australian U19 reps.

You could also pick:

Maher
Veletta
Gallian
S Lee
Cosgrove
Trimble
Haddin
Zesers
Hauritz
Robertson
Cook

Veletta's innings in the semi and the final of the 87 Gilly should exclude him from that list

by WideWally Sun 29 Jun 2008, 13:39

PearlJ wrote:
Ok, what I meant to say was that not many of them were picked for Australia on their U-19 exploits. Like happens in India or Pakistan.

They don't get picked immediately but you can bet they were closely monitored by the selectors & seem to get preference when there are players with similar FC performances contesting a spot.

by doremi Sun 29 Jun 2008, 13:40

Surely Hodge gets in there.

by PearlJ Sun 29 Jun 2008, 13:41

WideWally wrote:
PearlJ wrote:
Ok, what I meant to say was that not many of them were picked for Australia on their U-19 exploits. Like happens in India or Pakistan.

They don't get picked immediately but you can bet they were closely monitored by the selectors & seem to get preference when there are players with similar FC performances contesting a spot.

Phil Hughes for Australia in the near future then!

by WideWally Sun 29 Jun 2008, 13:49

PearlJ wrote:
WideWally wrote:
PearlJ wrote:
Ok, what I meant to say was that not many of them were picked for Australia on their U-19 exploits. Like happens in India or Pakistan.

They don't get picked immediately but you can bet they were closely monitored by the selectors & seem to get preference when there are players with similar FC performances contesting a spot.

Phil Hughes for Australia in the near future then!

I doubt if they will be selecting him for tests in the near future (maybe ODIs). Usually, they like to give a batsman a few seasons of FC cricket to see if the opposition bowlers can find any weaknesses & if they do, whether the player can overcome them.

by PearlJ Sun 29 Jun 2008, 13:52

WideWally wrote:
PearlJ wrote:
WideWally wrote:
PearlJ wrote:
Ok, what I meant to say was that not many of them were picked for Australia on their U-19 exploits. Like happens in India or Pakistan.

They don't get picked immediately but you can bet they were closely monitored by the selectors & seem to get preference when there are players with similar FC performances contesting a spot.

Phil Hughes for Australia in the near future then!

I doubt if they will be selecting him for tests in the near future (maybe ODIs). Usually, they like to give a batsman a few seasons of FC cricket to see if the opposition bowlers can find any weaknesses & if they do, whether the player can overcome them.

I suppose. Reckon he should get a go in the ODIs quite soon though. Maybe against NZ.

by lardbucket Sun 29 Jun 2008, 13:54

What, ahead of Marsh?

by PearlJ Sun 29 Jun 2008, 13:55

lardbucket wrote:What, ahead of Marsh?

No. Just perhaps in some squad rotation.

by JGK Sun 29 Jun 2008, 14:12

Phil Hughes should NEVER play JAMODIs before he plays tests. If he is the natural test opener than everyone says, there's no point stuffing that up by getting to go outside his natural game.

It is something England seem to be doing with Al Cook.

by PearlJ Sun 29 Jun 2008, 14:15

JGK wrote:Phil Hughes should NEVER play JAMODIs before he plays tests. If he is the natural test opener than everyone says, there's no point stuffing that up by getting to go outside his natural game.

It is something England seem to be doing with Al Cook.

Phil Hughes ain't no crab like Cook. He is a natural strokemaker.

by embee Sun 29 Jun 2008, 14:19

PearlJ wrote:
JGK wrote:Phil Hughes should NEVER play JAMODIs before he plays tests. If he is the natural test opener than everyone says, there's no point stuffing that up by getting to go outside his natural game.

It is something England seem to be doing with Al Cook.

Phil Hughes ain't no crab like Cook. He is a natural strokemaker.

So was Slater ...

by PearlJ Sun 29 Jun 2008, 14:25

embee wrote:
PearlJ wrote:
JGK wrote:Phil Hughes should NEVER play JAMODIs before he plays tests. If he is the natural test opener than everyone says, there's no point stuffing that up by getting to go outside his natural game.

It is something England seem to be doing with Al Cook.

Phil Hughes ain't no crab like Cook. He is a natural strokemaker.

So was Slater ...

Good point. I still don't think playing ODIs would be bad for him.

by Zat Sun 29 Jun 2008, 22:57

Well done Punter on getting another 50.

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