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Indian batsmen a scared lot: Former Aussie players
NEW DELHI, September 22: Indian batsmen are a "scared species", making them an easy prey for the Australian pace battery in the upcoming ODI series, feel former Aussie bowlers Ray Bright and Rodney Hogg.
Former pacer Hogg and Bright - a left-arm spinner of the 70's - felt the Indians would not get much of a home advantage in the seven-match series starting September 29.
"Well I say, Good Luck. Which they (India) would need," Hogg was quoted as saying by 'Neo Sports'.
"Unfortunately India tends to play Bangladesh a lot, so they tend to stretch up cricket" said Bright as he took pot shot at the Indian line-up.
Hogg described the Indian batsmen as "arrogant" and said they were scared of facing pacers.
"Couple of Indian batsmen are scared species, might be slightly arrogant and certainly there is no way to hide when people like Clark are going to go to India. With their pace there's nowhere to hide," he said.
Former Australian batsman Gary Cosier echoed a similar view and said Indians would buckle under pressure when faced with an accurate attack.
"Australia's bowlers and fieldsmen have impacts and they tend to put so much pressure on these very, very good players that the result is not very good at the end of the game," Cosier said.
Hogg criticised the decision to bring back Sourav Ganguly into the team and said the ex-captain has been brought back only because of "political" clout.
"He just probably had political numbers that's why he's back in their squad. That's why Greg felt like he was playing too much just for himself," he said.
Bright also felt that both Ganguly and Sachin Tendulkar were past there prime.
"The Tendulkars and Gangulys are not perhaps the players they were five years ago."
Bright and Cosier said for Indians to have any chance in the series, they will have to improve their fielding drastically.
"Well I think they've got to really back themselves and I'm not sure if they are as positive as they have been and they still need to work on their fielding that's been to me a very poor example of how One-day cricket should be played," said Bright.
"They need to field exceptionally well and they need players who are on the border of not playing too much longer," Cosier added.
Former pacer Hogg and Bright - a left-arm spinner of the 70's - felt the Indians would not get much of a home advantage in the seven-match series starting September 29.
"Well I say, Good Luck. Which they (India) would need," Hogg was quoted as saying by 'Neo Sports'.
"Unfortunately India tends to play Bangladesh a lot, so they tend to stretch up cricket" said Bright as he took pot shot at the Indian line-up.
Hogg described the Indian batsmen as "arrogant" and said they were scared of facing pacers.
"Couple of Indian batsmen are scared species, might be slightly arrogant and certainly there is no way to hide when people like Clark are going to go to India. With their pace there's nowhere to hide," he said.
Former Australian batsman Gary Cosier echoed a similar view and said Indians would buckle under pressure when faced with an accurate attack.
"Australia's bowlers and fieldsmen have impacts and they tend to put so much pressure on these very, very good players that the result is not very good at the end of the game," Cosier said.
Hogg criticised the decision to bring back Sourav Ganguly into the team and said the ex-captain has been brought back only because of "political" clout.
"He just probably had political numbers that's why he's back in their squad. That's why Greg felt like he was playing too much just for himself," he said.
Bright also felt that both Ganguly and Sachin Tendulkar were past there prime.
"The Tendulkars and Gangulys are not perhaps the players they were five years ago."
Bright and Cosier said for Indians to have any chance in the series, they will have to improve their fielding drastically.
"Well I think they've got to really back themselves and I'm not sure if they are as positive as they have been and they still need to work on their fielding that's been to me a very poor example of how One-day cricket should be played," said Bright.
"They need to field exceptionally well and they need players who are on the border of not playing too much longer," Cosier added.
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Dial-a-Quote Vomits
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but of course they have it right
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I know Aussies are miles ahead of India in both the formats of the game and Australia are runaway favorites to comfortably win the coming ODI series, but do we seriously play Banglas quite often?
SL and Pak have played more ODIs than us against them.
And haven't Banglas got some creditable wins against a lot of top teams in ODIs?
Mental warfare and all that ahead of a series is all good, but this????
SL and Pak have played more ODIs than us against them.
And haven't Banglas got some creditable wins against a lot of top teams in ODIs?
Mental warfare and all that ahead of a series is all good, but this????
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We've played Banglas thrice in last 3 years in ODIs. Don't think its much.but do we seriously play Banglas quite often?
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It's Dial a quote , unresearched , poke a subi with a stick bullshit ...
It's Dial a quote , unresearched , poke a subi with a stick bullshit ...
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Haven't seen much of Clark's bowkling myself, can Aussies here tell if he is that pacy as proclaimed by Hogg?when people like Clark are going to go to India. With their pace there's nowhere to hide," he said.
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Oh that explains it, embee.
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Apparently, Hussey (due to hamstring) will miss this ODI series as well, while James Hopes will replace Shane Watson for the series.
Lot of hamstring injuries for Australians, quite unheard of in their cricket, lack of physical training or what?
Lot of hamstring injuries for Australians, quite unheard of in their cricket, lack of physical training or what?
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If India pick the right players I am not convinced that the Aussies are miles ahead of the Indians. In fact based on what I saw in the last match it was the Aussie team which wilted under pressure and looked tired and jaded.
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Well it's still our pre season, gilchirst has admitted that they didn't do the same sort of training before the 20/20 that they would have done for a major test/one day series which may explain the hamstring injuries.
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Perhaps the extra walk from the dressing room rather than just the dug out is what Ozzie hammies need to get a stretch out ....and we all know Watto is just an injury waiting to happen
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SG wrote:Haven't seen much of Clark's bowkling myself, can Aussies here tell if he is that pacy as proclaimed by Hogg?when people like Clark are going to go to India. With their pace there's nowhere to hide," he said.
no, he's only mid 130s at best. Hogg was a mouthy goose when he played and has just got worse in retirement.
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Makes no sense anyway, it's clark's mcgrath style line and lenth that may hurt the indians.
Look how fact lee is and the indians love smashing his bowling.
Hogg sounds like he hasn't seen any indian cricket since the 99 tour so i wouldn't take it to heart if i was an indian.
Look how fact lee is and the indians love smashing his bowling.
Hogg sounds like he hasn't seen any indian cricket since the 99 tour so i wouldn't take it to heart if i was an indian.
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I hope you understand that there is a helluva difference between ODIs and Twenty20.In fact based on what I saw in the last match it was the Aussie team which wilted under pressure and looked tired and jaded.
In Twenty20, contest gets over in less than half the time it stretches to in ODIs, where Aussies are undisputed champs.
Hence I think its horribly wrong to assume that Aussies will wilt in 50-overs format as well. Its as wrong to lay all blame on India's seniors' doors for India's continuing defeats at the hands of Aussies in ODI arena.
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It's farkin embarrassing to have countrymen talk carp like that. Thank heavens it was only a couple of stoopid vomits that opened their traps.
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Actually Lee is quite handful for Indians in ODIs. In tests as well, his stats against India are not as bad as they're against others. Infact, his average against them is more or less equal to his overall average.Look how fact lee is and the indians love smashing his bowling.
BTW, is it certain that he'll lead Australian attack alongwith Clark in the coming summer?
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Every country has its share of such motormouths.It's farkin embarrassing to have countrymen talk carp like that.
India has the likes of Bedis and Maninders just for doing this.
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SG wrote:Actually Lee is quite handful for Indians in ODIs. In tests as well, his stats against India are not as bad as they're against others. Infact, his average against them is more or less equal to his overall average.Look how fact lee is and the indians love smashing his bowling.
BTW, is it certain that he'll lead Australian attack alongwith Clark in the coming summer?
Take out Lee's first series before he "injured" his elbow...and then say how good his stats are against india in Tests
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Aye. It takes a hell of a lot for me to boo an Aussie but I was at the SCG the day he took two "wickets" off two no-balls and finished with 4-200 v India - and I farkin booed him.embee wrote:Take out Lee's first series before he "injured" his elbow...and then say how good his stats are against india in Tests
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skully wrote:It's farkin embarrassing to have countrymen talk carp like that. Thank heavens it was only a couple of stoopid vomits that opened their traps.
What has horace/nerk said this time?
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Now you know how we feel reading your posts.skully wrote:It's farkin embarrassing to have countrymen talk carp like that.
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Horace agreed with the comments ...
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He took 13 wickets @ 14-odd in his opening series, in '99.Take out Lee's first series before he "injured" his elbow then say how good his stats are against india in Tests
In 2 tests since that series, he took 8 wickets @ 59-odd against India, giving him an averall average of 31-odd.
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I'd happily concede a bowler 4 wickets a game if I knew he was going to go for 200+ runs a game as well ....
The Indians should handle Lee ...unless Cooley really is a miracle worker
The Indians should handle Lee ...unless Cooley really is a miracle worker
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