India-Pak cricket series all but cancelled

The Indian sports minister MS Gill summarised it well when he said recently -

"Is it possible for one team to arrive in Mumbai and indulge in mass murder, and have another team go and play cricket in the winter afternoon sun at Lahore , immediately after?,

The One wrote:??

what does india have to do with iraq? pakistani militants terrorising bombay is a totally different matter. make no mistake - what happened in bombay was an act of war

It was an act of terrorism, pure and simple.
Don't over-dramatise a sad and regretable occurance, which incidentally, others around the world have also had to live with over decades, without recourse to 'declarations of war' with the perpetrators.

please merlin, you obviously have no idea about the origins of these groups, their backers or motivations. lets not post totally uninformed opinion

and unless people read it wrong, its not an act of war by the people of pakistan but by its state (mostly non-civilian)

The One wrote:please merlin, you obviously have no idea about the origins of these groups, their backers or motivations. lets not post totally uninformed opinion

to - you blather away about 'acts of war' and the likes based on what exactly??
I may know zip about the groups, backers or motivations ... however, to hear you labelling it an "act of war"
borders on the ludicrous. Your clarion call is based on what? Media speculation or inside knowledge ??

With all the "proof" to hand, what is stopping India from delivering a counter blow cross border in an Israeli-style tit for tat attack? And pray tell, how is it you discern between an act of war by the Pakistan government and and act of war by the Pakistan people, when deciding to invoke your particular "act of war" ??

I repeat. Others around the globe too have suffered terrorist attacks and have lost loved ones, however, you don't see them going around declaring war on the perpetrators or their paymasters with mass-like hysteria.
If that were the case, don't you think Britain and Ireland, or the Basques/Northern Spain would have each been reduced to charred dust by now?!

I know that Bucks is a tosser .. but checkout his (ie. one Indian's opinion) in his post above ... you only need to multiply that by a few million more and rabid hatred takes over all reasoning.

the likes of Ian will turn rabid at once if their interests are attacked. Else they pretend to be birds of peace if their own blood is not spilt.

Case in point is his verbal diarrhoea as soon as the word 'Mugabe' is mentioned.

Ask this hypocrite to get lost .. his words count for zero, zilch, nada.

I rest my case.

Merlin wrote:I rest my case.

That is better Merlin. Thanks.

Anyway I'm quite excited at the idea of our players being able to play Ranji and that too at KO stage!

Unfortunately cricket has to take a back seat for at least a few months until then India can let go of Kashmir, solve the Samjoutha express murder which incidentally killed around 70 Pakistanis and numerous Indians, apologize to Pakistan for initial blame game directed towards Pakistan for the murder, clean up the elements in RAW that spread terrorism, stop blocking water coming to Pakistan and last but not least clean up the elements that fund for terrorism in NWFP and Balouchistan.

There is no reason for Pakistan to stay quiet. The operation "clean up" should happen on BOTH sides. There are top officials on BOTH sides who quite simply don't peace and would anything to stop that and if either side is unwilling to accept that then they are kidding themselves.

Merlin wrote:

The One wrote:please merlin, you obviously have no idea about the origins of these groups, their backers or motivations. lets not post totally uninformed opinion

to - you blather away about 'acts of war' and the likes based on what exactly??
I may know zip about the groups, backers or motivations ... however, to hear you labelling it an "act of war"
borders on the ludicrous. Your clarion call is based on what? Media speculation or inside knowledge ??

With all the "proof" to hand, what is stopping India from delivering a counter blow cross border in an Israeli-style tit for tat attack? And pray tell, how is it you discern between an act of war by the Pakistan government and and act of war by the Pakistan people, when deciding to invoke your particular "act of war" ??

I repeat. Others around the globe too have suffered terrorist attacks and have lost loved ones, however, you don't see them going around declaring war on the perpetrators or their paymasters with mass-like hysteria.
If that were the case, don't you think Britain and Ireland, or the Basques/Northern Spain would have each been reduced to charred dust by now?!

I know that Bucks is a tosser .. but checkout his (ie. one Indian's opinion) in his post above ... you only need to multiply that by a few million more and rabid hatred takes over all reasoning.

Coming from a country that went to war with Iraq and Afghanistan for a terrorist strike over USA, you really are out of your depth with your posts here friend.....

PlanetPakistan wrote:Unfortunately cricket has to take a back seat for at least a few months until then India can let go of Kashmir, solve the Samjoutha express murder which incidentally killed around 70 Pakistanis and numerous Indians, apologize to Pakistan for initial blame game directed towards Pakistan for the murder, clean up the elements in RAW that spread terrorism, stop blocking water coming to Pakistan and last but not least clean up the elements that fund for terrorism in NWFP and Balouchistan.

There is no reason for Pakistan to stay quiet. The operation "clean up" should happen on BOTH sides. There are top officials on BOTH sides who quite simply don't peace and would anything to stop that and if either side is unwilling to accept that then they are kidding themselves.

TBH I am hoping at least now RAW will wake up and send a few across the border to hijack Islamabad. Then we will see what Pakistan feels. Unlike Pakistan, the army and security agencies here are firmly under civilian control. We don't have militant training camps here training Hindu terrorists to go across the border and carry out suicide attacks on a daily basis. And unlike Pakistan, we don't put hardcore terrorists under 'house arrest' either. That's Pakistan's expertise, not India's. Thanks, but no thanks. Unlike Pakistan, Indian external security in India is NOT in army hands. The army and security agencies have no voice or place in foreign policy mechanisms. The army is entirely dependent on the money the Govt. allocates for them and do not have their own sources of funding via drugs and narcotics with people like Taliban. We don't have any religious schools here that preach Jihad and hatred for Pakistan. There is simply NO comparision here whatsoever. You think these bunch of nin-compoops in RAW IF they had so much roots and spread in Pakistan would have been so much inefficient at home?

Batman wrote:

Coming from a country that went to war with Iraq and Afghanistan for a terrorist strike over USA, you really are out of your depth with your posts here friend.....

At least in some small warped sort of way, the UK is trying (some might say trying and failing) to stem the terrorist threat
that is rampant in Afganistan. I'm not proud of the fact our boys are there ... the sooner they're out, the better IMO.

Iraq was different - and soon to be vacated by the Brits... the country was run by a megalomaniac who butchered and gassed his people by the ten thousands ... and now, 5 years later, things seem to be getting back to what passes for normal again.
I'd suggest that it's finally settled (I maybe wrong) - an operation which sadly cost several hundred of our soldiers lives ... but according to regular folk in the country and even the UK military, it seems to have been a job well done.... and so, it's time to leave.
This was a war against one tyrant ...NOT against the Iraqi population - as is being touted by the rabid hate mongers on here against the Pakistani government and nation and as such, its people .....

Slight difference Viks!

PS - The terrorist strikes were also against us not just the Seppos - 7th July 2005 - don't you forget that!

and soon to be vacated by the Brits...

our boys are there ... the sooner they're out, the better IMO

do that first then before you pontificate ...

A shame for Pak but at least for them they have a class team in Sri Laka coming instead.

How does one engage the "Ignore" function ....
Think I'll finally use it against this brain dead wanker.

Help anyone?

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Merlin wrote:How does one engage the "Ignore" function ....
Think I'll finally use it against this brain dead wanker.

Help anyone?

Friend or foe.

taipan wrote:

Merlin wrote:How does one engage the "Ignore" function ....
Think I'll finally use it against this brain dead wanker.

Help anyone?

Friend or foe.

Pardon? :?:

Let's try "foe of Buckeroo" ... does that work ??

You go into his profile and tick foe.

taipan wrote:You go into his profile and tick foe.

Ah ... cheers taips.
Job done.