West Indies v England, 5th Test, Port of Spain, Mar 6 - 10

Geoffrey Trueman wrote:

JKLever wrote: Tbh, I don't think Ahmygod Khan is any better...

I don't know whether I've been lucky or unlucky but whenever I've tuned in and seen Khan bowl he's impressed me. I know he's bowling too many no-balls and the Sky commentary team are saying he's mixing it up too much, but I like that. He's been no better or worse than Anderson and Broad who for the most part have been bowling regulation seam up. Imo a bloke on debut that has the bottle to mix it up like Khan does needs to be applauded not chastised.

Amjad 'the power' Khan will do better if he focuses on trying to hit the strike zone. It is a shame he keeps overstepping the mound, if he doesn't he may get sent back to the bull penm he needs to iron this out in the pregame, otherwise he has no chance of winning the golden glove

DJ_Smerk wrote:Aslong as this bag of sh!t gets under Punters skin, then I don't mind how badly we lose.

Really? The way I see it, if we're losing badly, we're not going to get under Punter's skin. Furthermore, WGAF? So say he kicks of in 3 of the Tests and we lose 0-3, it's doubtful that anyone other than one in a Red/Smith scenario would take much consolation.

Each to their own though.

Need 2 wkts in the 1st hour

Don't quote me wrote:Amjad 'the power' Khan will do better if he focuses on trying to hit the strike zone. It is a shame he keeps overstepping the mound, if he doesn't he may get sent back to the bull penm he needs to iron this out in the pregame, otherwise he has no chance of winning the golden glove

Nope. He needs to work on his defence. He has a glass jaw. That's OK, it's something that can't be worked on too much, but if he leaves his chin hanging out to dry then he deserves to get sparked.

@Danny.

If Amjad takes a 5fer and England get close to winning, I'm sure Punter will throw the chucking card into the mix when he believes his team are on the back foot. That would cause some minor irritation.

Either that or getting run out by a sub-fielder. (Imagine Ian Bell as 12th man running out Ponting).

DJ_Smerk wrote:@Danny.

If Amjad takes a 5fer and England get close to winning, I'm sure Punter will throw the chucking card into the mix when he believes his team are on the back foot. That would cause some minor irritation.

Either that or getting run out by a sub-fielder. (Imagine Ian Bell as 12th man running out Ponting).

They can't do anything about chucking mid-game and he personally can't do anything, he has to be referred by an umpire.

I prefer the imaginary scenario where all the fit Aussie soap birds get their minkies out to show support for their team.

Brass Monkey wrote:

DJ_Smerk wrote:@Danny.

If Amjad takes a 5fer and England get close to winning, I'm sure Punter will throw the chucking card into the mix when he believes his team are on the back foot. That would cause some minor irritation.

Either that or getting run out by a sub-fielder. (Imagine Ian Bell as 12th man running out Ponting).

They can't do anything about chucking mid-game and he personally can't do anything, he has to be referred by an umpire.

I prefer the imaginary scenario where all the fit Aussie soap birds get their minkies out to show support for their team.

Who doesn't like a bit of Minky?

Don't quote me wrote:Need 2 wkts in the 1st hour

Well, 2 or 5. We'd need two sessions to bat and a whole day to bowl them out and even then the win's a far-off possibility. In all likelihood we'll spend tomorrow batting with the bleak acceptance that the series is gone.

3rd highest tally of extras, reports cricinfo. Amjad and Matt Sussex can be proud...

The Extras board only has two digits. What happens if England make it to 100 extras.

Well done Potatoes!

Well played Nashy, 1st test hundred.

All the bits are falling into place slowly but surely.

Wicket keeper batsman with test hundred, solid number 6 with test hundred etc.

Jimmy Anderson still chirping away. I wish he would STFU and just bowl ffs.

KP into the Attack for Monty now. Maybe Monty's changing ends.

DJ_Smerk wrote:Jimmy Anderson still chirping away. I wish he would STFU and just bowl ffs.

He's become a petty little chirper, which I hadn't seen before this series. Monty too. Not nice to see, even if they are frustrated. No point saying anything to a set batsman especially, cause you end up looking like a muppet. Go and rant at yourself instead. Our your fielders, or your keeper who keeps letting byes through...

Maybe the tracks are getting to them.

Yorkie Jill wrote:

DJ_Smerk wrote:Jimmy Anderson still chirping away. I wish he would STFU and just bowl ffs.

He's become a petty little chirper, which I hadn't seen before this series. Monty too. Not nice to see, even if they are frustrated. No point saying anything to a set batsman especially, cause you end up looking like a muppet. Go and rant at yourself instead. Our your fielders, or your keeper who keeps letting byes through...

Maybe the tracks are getting to them.

Maybe they're discussing the curators. Maybe the Curator is an effing Qunt.


I just wish Matt Sussex, Jimmikins and Turbo Shandy 2 would just keep quiet and get the Wickets.

Well England's behavior in this match has been poor, like the Aussies under Steve Waugh IMHO.

Over-appealing, overdoing the sledging, toys out of the pram, dissent at umpires decisions, Broad publicly moaning about poor umpiring decisions (notice we were silent after 3/4 went against us in Barbados).

I have every sympathy with them when it comes to the pitches, but they deserve to have the book thrown at them on this occasion. I am not used to seeing English teams behaving like this.

Monty's over appealing is just embarrasing to watch. Strauss needs to reel these young guns in and give them some home truths about the game.

It's just shameful to watch someone like James Anderson FFS who couldn't scare a pussy cat to be up in the face of every batsman that defends the ball back to him.

Imagine Sidebottom was playing. I'm sure he'd have been fined by now.

WIFAN wrote:Well England's behavior in this match has been poor, like the Aussies under Steve Waugh IMHO.

Over-appealing, overdoing the sledging, toys out of the pram, dissent at umpires decisions, Broad publicly moaning about poor umpiring decisions (notice we were silent after 3/4 went against us in Barbados).

I have every sympathy with them when it comes to the pitches, but they deserve to have the book thrown at them on this occasion. I am not used to seeing English teams behaving like this.

Though thinking back to 1990, we haven't quite had fielders running up to umpires inditimidating them into giving decisions eh?

I personally think the pitches have worn them down, I know they have me and i'm not farking bowling on them!

In the last 12 years, West Indies have been reported to the match referees less than any other test nation .

Shove that up your pipe and smoke it

WIFAN wrote:In the last 12 years, West Indies have been reported to the match referees less than any other test nation .

Shove that up your pipe and smoke it

Haha, fair play Don't forget our 'spirit of cricket awards'

Meanwhile, 34 byes conceeded by Matt Sussex. Bob's going to be spitting!

WIFAN wrote:

I have every sympathy with them when it comes to the pitches, but they deserve to have the book thrown at them on this occasion. I am not used to seeing English teams behaving like this.

I don't even have that. It would be like WI going to England and complaining about the seam and swing, or going to Aus and complaining about too much bounce or going to India and complaining about the spin. What do you expect. Conditions are different in different parts of the world and if you can't be complaining if the conditions elsewhere doesn't suit what you want.

JKLever wrote:

WIFAN wrote:Well England's behavior in this match has been poor, like the Aussies under Steve Waugh IMHO.

Over-appealing, overdoing the sledging, toys out of the pram, dissent at umpires decisions, Broad publicly moaning about poor umpiring decisions (notice we were silent after 3/4 went against us in Barbados).

I have every sympathy with them when it comes to the pitches, but they deserve to have the book thrown at them on this occasion. I am not used to seeing English teams behaving like this.

Though thinking back to 1990, we haven't quite had fielders running up to umpires inditimidating them into giving decisions eh?

I personally think the pitches have worn them down, I know they have me and i'm not farking bowling on them!

Same for both sets of bowlers though, innit? Not sure why England are the major over appealers/whingers/sookers, unless they're sulking because the pre-series suggestion of 'oh this'll be an easy winter' didn't come to fruition.

I agree with WIFAN that I've never seen England bowlers overreact so much. It looks bad, and although i'll be surprised if any action is taken, it smacked too much of whingeing footballers vs unrespected refs for my liking.

I'm sure they're p!ssed off with how things have gone, but what's wrong with a little introspection?

Finally Broad gets Nash

kkf wrote:

WIFAN wrote:

I have every sympathy with them when it comes to the pitches, but they deserve to have the book thrown at them on this occasion. I am not used to seeing English teams behaving like this.

I don't even have that. It would be like WI going to England and complaining about the seam and swing, or going to Aus and complaining about too much bounce or going to India and complaining about the spin. What do you expect. Conditions are different in different parts of the world and if you can't be complaining if the conditions elsewhere doesn't suit what you want.

Don't forget weve had coverage of WI tests in the caribbean for a good 15 years, every season live. These haven't been traditional WI wickets at all. Hell you were even dissing us for prediciting another road - there is always a result here you were saying!!

It's not like these are even good test wickets with 400 plays 400. We are talking nearly 2000 runs for 19 wickets taken FFS - we may as well have called off the series after Antigua for all the interest these 2 tests have held. It's been a poor advert.

I've gone on record saying I don't blame the WI and England have themselves to blame for a crazy hour and muppet declarations in Antigua, so fair play to the WI but don't try and insult our intelligence by telling us these roads haven't been prepared with a 1-0 scoreline in mind.